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Jabberjaw · 8 March 2014, 10:29 PM

Ok Mates, here it is... I am looking to spend no more than 50K (+- 10K) for another PP. This will be my last one. I currently have the 5167 on rubber and it is probably the best sports watch, all purpose PP I have ever owned. After combing the previous posts I have narrowed my choices to the following pieces, but want to make sure I haven't left any potential suitors out of the lineup. I am only interested in white gold and know that everyone's extensive knowledge can only help me choose what will be my last PP. BTW, I am looking to purchase new since I want my name on the certificate. I plan on passing the watch down several years down the road which is one reason for this.

5205 - Nice, but not thrilled with the dial choices. Afraid that they will get washed out at night and I will have difficultly reading them.

5146G cream - Top contender, however I am concerned that it may be too modern of a look. Dial is not too cluttered.

5396G - Very nice. Somewhat thicker than the 5146 and the bezel could be prone to scratching easily (esp. with the white gold). Has the traditional PP look but no need for the 24 hour indicator.

3940/5140 - Both exceptional watches that embolden the PP look, but would have to buy pre-owned. I could buy new, but given the list price on the 5140 would save a great deal buying pre-owned on this one especially. Obviously, I would have to buy the 3940 pre-owned. Main concern is that both dials on these pieces seem cluttered to me and I like to keep things somewhat simple. The price on preowned does not concern me but would I be content with the clutter ?

So, did I leave anything out ? The Calatrava line is also appealing but with my 5167 sharing the same movement and the desire for something different, I decided on the complication route. Any thoughts would be appreciated and if I have left off any references please enlighten me. Thanks as always !

conkers · 8 March 2014, 10:50 PM

You haven't mentioned size constraints (i.e. whether 42mm diameter is too big), but your 50+10 budget gets you perilously close to 5070 territory……..well worth a look, and a great investment for the next generation I reckon!

Obviously not your name on the COA I realise.

AK797 · 8 March 2014, 11:03 PM

I would choose the 3940, I also worry about dial clutter but this PC is well balanced.

Jabberjaw · 8 March 2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

You haven't mentioned size constraints (i.e. whether 42mm diameter is too big), but your 50+10 budget gets you perilously close to 5070 territory……..well worth a look, and a great investment for the next generation I reckon!

Obviously not your name on the COA I realise.

Trying to keep the size from 37mm - 40mm max. 50/70 would work also (my AD will discount some)

conkers · 8 March 2014, 11:08 PM

Understood on the size. Snap up a 5960 before the last ones disappear, as they have been discontinued?

PatekCollector · 11 March 2014, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Understood on the size. Snap up a 5960 before the last ones disappear, as they have been discontinued?

SearChart · 11 March 2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jabberjaw

So, did I leave anything out ? The Calatrava line is also appealing but with my 5167 sharing the same movement and the desire for something different, I decided on the complication route. Any thoughts would be appreciated and if I have left off any references please enlighten me. Thanks as always !

You can also purchase a Calatrava with manual movement (Caliber 215), like the 5119, 5120, 5196 or the 5116 with enamel dial.

Your budget being up to 60k you could take a look at the 5170 chronograph or the 5130 world timer.

FeelingTheBlues · 11 March 2014, 08:58 PM

My vote would go for the 3940 and the 5146 as a runner-up. The dial may be busier on it (and I'm not the biggest fan of the 5140 for that reason) but the font used make it look much cleaner. The only problem is that I'm not sure you'll be able to get one with blank papers as it's been discontinued for some time now. The 5146 is a real stunner in my book, the subdials give it an original look and I really like the proportions and colors on it (the cream dial is lovely but I'd recommend you to take a look at the slate dial as well, it's really something else). It would definitely have my vote if the papers are a concern for you.

The 5205 and 5396 look nice but the 24 hour hand doesn't quite do it for me. However, the 5396 is the one I prefer out of those two given the classic display of the complications and its elegant lines.

Rolex king 68 · 11 March 2014, 09:09 PM

I own a 5146-G Cream dial and is a fabulous watch to own. Comfortable and reasonable in price. I also own the 5140-Y this is my favorite because of who thin it is, wears excellent with suits your shirt don't get hung up at all. My choice preowned 5140.

sctp39 · 11 March 2014, 09:22 PM

How about a 5235? Annual calendar regulator. I hear more will be available later this year.

perpetualman88 · 12 March 2014, 04:45 AM

I would learn towards a 5070G )you are very close on that in price at 50k+ may need to boost just a bit.
Along with that I would highly consider the 5140. Its a truly iconic Patek IMHO. Its so thin and of course its a perpetual in my eyes it hits all the high points on what a patek is suppose to be :)

although you would have to buy both pre owned it will not be impossible to find one with open papers may have to pay a bit extra but probably not just need to get lucky

subtona · 12 March 2014, 05:09 AM

3940

Ps pics would help

stockjock1975 · 12 March 2014, 08:17 AM

Another vote for the 5960. Plus, you can get it in Platinum....which gives you the white gold look you were going for, but MUCH better!

patek97 · 12 March 2014, 08:35 AM

it hold it value better and its the best of the bunch,i never ever regretted not getting one in platinum.

Oryx · 12 March 2014, 02:25 PM

As others have mentioned above have a look at the 5170 and 5980.

From your list above I would reccomended the 3940 or 5140 both beautiful with excellent case proportions and very balanced dials.

If you can get a good deal on a nice pre owned 3940 then this is the way forward in my opinion.

Oryx · 12 March 2014, 02:25 PM

As others have mentioned above have a look at the 5170 and 5980.

From your list above I would reccomended the 3940 or 5140 both beautiful with excellent case proportions and very balanced dials.

If you can get a good deal on a nice pre owned 3940 then this is the way forward in my opinion.

8 March 2014, 10:29 PM	#1
Jabberjaw Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Bay Area Posts: 292	Please help in directing me to a new pp Ok Mates, here it is... I am looking to spend no more than 50K (+- 10K) for another PP. This will be my last one. I currently have the 5167 on rubber and it is probably the best sports watch, all purpose PP I have ever owned. After combing the previous posts I have narrowed my choices to the following pieces, but want to make sure I haven't left any potential suitors out of the lineup. I am only interested in white gold and know that everyone's extensive knowledge can only help me choose what will be my last PP. BTW, I am looking to purchase new since I want my name on the certificate. I plan on passing the watch down several years down the road which is one reason for this. 5205 - Nice, but not thrilled with the dial choices. Afraid that they will get washed out at night and I will have difficultly reading them. 5146G cream - Top contender, however I am concerned that it may be too modern of a look. Dial is not too cluttered. 5396G - Very nice. Somewhat thicker than the 5146 and the bezel could be prone to scratching easily (esp. with the white gold). Has the traditional PP look but no need for the 24 hour indicator. 3940/5140 - Both exceptional watches that embolden the PP look, but would have to buy pre-owned. I could buy new, but given the list price on the 5140 would save a great deal buying pre-owned on this one especially. Obviously, I would have to buy the 3940 pre-owned. Main concern is that both dials on these pieces seem cluttered to me and I like to keep things somewhat simple. The price on preowned does not concern me but would I be content with the clutter ? So, did I leave anything out ? The Calatrava line is also appealing but with my 5167 sharing the same movement and the desire for something different, I decided on the complication route. Any thoughts would be appreciated and if I have left off any references please enlighten me. Thanks as always !

11 March 2014, 08:58 PM	#8
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	My vote would go for the 3940 and the 5146 as a runner-up. The dial may be busier on it (and I'm not the biggest fan of the 5140 for that reason) but the font used make it look much cleaner. The only problem is that I'm not sure you'll be able to get one with blank papers as it's been discontinued for some time now. The 5146 is a real stunner in my book, the subdials give it an original look and I really like the proportions and colors on it (the cream dial is lovely but I'd recommend you to take a look at the slate dial as well, it's really something else). It would definitely have my vote if the papers are a concern for you. The 5205 and 5396 look nice but the 24 hour hand doesn't quite do it for me. However, the 5396 is the one I prefer out of those two given the classic display of the complications and its elegant lines. __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

12 March 2014, 05:09 AM	#12
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	3940 Ps pics would help __________________

12 March 2014, 08:35 AM	#14
patek97 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: canada Watch: daytona patek lang Posts: 113	3940 is the way to go it hold it value better and its the best of the bunch,i never ever regretted not getting one in platinum.

8 March 2014, 10:50 PM	#2
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,994	You haven't mentioned size constraints (i.e. whether 42mm diameter is too big), but your 50+10 budget gets you perilously close to 5070 territory……..well worth a look, and a great investment for the next generation I reckon! Obviously not your name on the COA I realise.

8 March 2014, 11:03 PM	#3
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,219	I would choose the 3940, I also worry about dial clutter but this PC is well balanced.

8 March 2014, 11:08 PM	#5
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,994	Understood on the size. Snap up a 5960 before the last ones disappear, as they have been discontinued?

11 March 2014, 09:09 PM	#9
Rolex king 68 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NewJersey/NewYork Watch: Patek 5074P Posts: 207	I own a 5146-G Cream dial and is a fabulous watch to own. Comfortable and reasonable in price. I also own the 5140-Y this is my favorite because of who thin it is, wears excellent with suits your shirt don't get hung up at all. My choice preowned 5140.

11 March 2014, 09:22 PM	#10
sctp39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Home Posts: 562	How about a 5235? Annual calendar regulator. I hear more will be available later this year.

12 March 2014, 04:45 AM	#11
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,010	I would learn towards a 5070G )you are very close on that in price at 50k+ may need to boost just a bit. Along with that I would highly consider the 5140. Its a truly iconic Patek IMHO. Its so thin and of course its a perpetual in my eyes it hits all the high points on what a patek is suppose to be :) although you would have to buy both pre owned it will not be impossible to find one with open papers may have to pay a bit extra but probably not just need to get lucky

12 March 2014, 08:17 AM	#13
stockjock1975 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Cleveland, OH Watch: Platona Posts: 1,569	Another vote for the 5960. Plus, you can get it in Platinum....which gives you the white gold look you were going for, but MUCH better!

12 March 2014, 02:25 PM	#15
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,874	As others have mentioned above have a look at the 5170 and 5980. From your list above I would reccomended the 3940 or 5140 both beautiful with excellent case proportions and very balanced dials. If you can get a good deal on a nice pre owned 3940 then this is the way forward in my opinion.

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