Gmt master II m series 3186 movement

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Alpino

If you need a proof, here it is. It was still an option for the very last 16710 ...


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Thank you!

This answers a burning question I've had for a while. OK...maybe not burning, but simmering perhaps.

[HL65]

Yes clearly a market and not easy to find mint, complete sets that's for sure. When you do you are paying up. The market is what it is but clearly some of those prices are a stretch. I am glad I have one but also glad I bought it right.

[joe100]

It was never an "error" dial, just a variation in the font. Also, yes, confirmed, sans-serif dials are being used as service dials. I held a 1980s 16760 in my own hands just returned from the rsc with a sans-serif dial

[RastabanStar]

It's interesting how high the premium is for the 3186 GMT, but I got caught up when buying my 3186 Explorer 2. That was before I found out about the known issue with the 3186 Hour Click Spring.

No way I'd pay a premium for any 3186 now, unless it was just going to be a safe queen collection piece.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by Alpino

If you need a proof, here it is. It was still an option for the very last 16710 ...


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Interesting. So RSC will sell you or trade you a part for a watch if it was originally offered on that watch. When I went to RSC to try to purchase a jubilee that would fit my watch I was told it was not an option for my reference and therefore had no bracelet to offer me for sale. I end up buying a 63600 in the classifieds that fits perfectly but that bracelet was made for a 36mm DJ.

Weird that RSC literally told me no jubilee was offered for my 16710.

[Rolexman17]

Problem solved...
NOS M series stick dial 3186 Pepsi and Coke with a spare black bezel just incase
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[Speed]

Originally Posted by Rolexman17

Problem solved...
NOS M series stick dial 3186 Pepsi and Coke with a spare black bezel just incase

In case...you actually wear them?

[teo]

If u got m series but no 3186 movement u can buy an explorer 2 16570 m or v series with 3186 and fit it on a gmt. And price goes up a few fold.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by HL65

Yes clearly a market and not easy to find mint, complete sets that's for sure. When you do you are paying up. The market is what it is but clearly some of those prices are a stretch. I am glad I have one but also glad I bought it right.

x2 Kenneth.

[Rolexman17]

Originally Posted by Speed

In case...you actually wear them?

That was a good one and to your point I have this beauties to wear in the meantime
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[Andad]

Originally Posted by teo

If u got m series but no 3186 movement u can buy an explorer 2 16570 m or v series with 3186 and fit it on a gmt. And price goes up a few fold.

Do you throw the Explorer 2 in the bin?

[teo]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Do you throw the Explorer 2 in the bin?

U switch it with gmt. U do not throw them away.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by teo

If u got m series but no 3186 movement u can buy an explorer 2 16570 m or v series with 3186 and fit it on a gmt. And price goes up a few fold.

That sounds ethical. The hobby needs more of this.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Rolexman17

That was a good one and to your point I have this beauties to wear in the meantime

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Clearly not enough GMTs!

Well done!

[cwieb]

Originally Posted by Danex

That is a crazy price. I can get a minty white gold 116719 BLRO for less than that.

Im right there with you...

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by teo

If u got m series but no 3186 movement u can buy an explorer 2 16570 m or v series with 3186 and fit it on a gmt. And price goes up a few fold.

Originally Posted by teo

U switch it with gmt. U do not throw them away.

Wow. Don't know what to even say. Can we maybe sticky these posts in the WatchOut!! thread?

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by mtgjr

Wow. Don't know what to even say. Can we maybe sticky these posts in the WatchOut!! thread?

I'd rather he just get banned.

[Hotrod297]

Overrated! Save your money!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by mtgjr

Wow. Don't know what to even say. Can we maybe sticky these posts in the WatchOut!! thread?

Would not be surprised if this is not already going on with some unscrupulous dealers 3185 out 3186 in, afraid the WIS type has made a rod for his own back..

[teo]

Originally Posted by padi56

Would not be surprised if this is not already going on with some unscrupulous dealers 3185 out 3186 in, afraid the WIS type has made a rod for his own back..

I believe there will be a few people doing this. Just wonder why nobody think about this.

[ACWATCHES]

How did they get so expensive since I last checked, utterly over priced imo

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[Alpino]

Originally Posted by teo

If u got m series but no 3186 movement u can buy an explorer 2 16570 m or v series with 3186 and fit it on a gmt. And price goes up a few fold.

Originally Posted by teo

I believe there will be a few people doing this. Just wonder why nobody think about this.

Maybe because there's no m series without 3186 movement ...

[Qwerty01]

I saw one the other day. stick dial + 3186 + pepsi + really low production numbers ( late Zs and M serials) + last gmt with connections to the past = CRAZY PREMIUM!

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by RastabanStar

It's interesting how high the premium is for the 3186 GMT, but I got caught up when buying my 3186 Explorer 2. That was before I found out about the known issue with the 3186 Hour Click Spring.

No way I'd pay a premium for any 3186 now, unless it was just going to be a safe queen collection piece.

Yeah, me too. I actually ended up just choosing lug holes + SELs over the 3186 in my Exp II.

This 3186 thing is nonsense.

[teo]

Explorer 2 16570 with 3186 movement should be in premium too. But it did not.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by teo

Explorer 2 16570 with 3186 movement should be in premium too. But it did not.

Forum sellers are trying.

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by Airborne

No one in the right frame of mind would pay such an obscene amount of money for what is just another 16710. It's utter madness.

I agree. Madness.


But somebody will pay that price. And somebody will pay even more someday.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Forum sellers are trying.

Yeah, it really just goes to show that it's more about collectibility than function, since the 3186 Exp IIs were a lot more plentiful.

Due to the click spring issue, I'm not sure I'd even pick a 3186 over a 3185 for the same price, but, hey, I'm not a collector, so I wouldn't pay much extra for things like red lettering or different fonts, either.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Yeah, it really just goes to show that it's more about collectibility than function, since the 3186 Exp IIs were a lot more plentiful.

Due to the click spring issue, I'm not sure I'd even pick a 3186 over a 3185 for the same price, but, hey, I'm not a collector, so I wouldn't pay much extra for things like red lettering or different fonts, either.

I love the white dial on a strap. I'd pick a Y serial with lug holes over a 3186 all day every day.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

I love the white dial on a strap. I'd pick a Y serial with lug holes over a 3186 all day every day.

Yeah, my black Exp II is a P serial.