Daytona or day date president?

[Maiden]

Neither watch is a good investment play. I would grab a DD but stay away from aftermarket parts. With you budget I would pick up a more modern 18238, you will get sapphire glass and a double quick set. I did and it is becoming my everyday wear. A few pics of mine.


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[JamieLeeHall]

Thank you I am taking ALL comments into consideration. And appreciate everyone’s input.

[JamieLeeHall]

Maiden that is beautiful, a stunning example... thank your for sharing these photos and your knowledge with me it is much appreciated

[Tangier11]

I am all about the DD. I say go for the DD for sure, but NOT that one. Aftermarket parts ruin it for me.

[rossi46]

They are both seriously bad bets for an "investment" purchase. I can't stress this enough.

Whoever is selling those watches to you must be thrilled to have found someone to actually consider buying them. I'm sorry to come across so harshly, but I don't want you to make the mistake of thinking either of those watches is a good buy (unless they truly sing to you on a personal, not financial level).

Think of it this way: someone recently started a thread here about which Rolex watches would be hot/in-demand/good storers of value in the future. There were a ton of responses; guess how many involved two-tone watches or DDs with aftermarket diamond dials?

I'd stay away from both of those.

[melrob1]

Neither will hold value and if you ever flip you will be at the mercy of how much you paid. Also they would both take some time to sell.
My opinion is to pass on this DD and look at a korw modern version even if it means saving for more time. If you decide the Daytona is for you just make sure to buy it right so you don’t take a big hit. If it’s not something you think you will love just hold off for a complete DD that you get ar a smart price. Check out watchrecon.com and chrono24.com. These are good tools to see where prices are at.

[JamieLeeHall]

Maiden what would you say about a 18038? Could you or anyone tell me anything about this model compared to the 1803? I have found a 18038 which is 100% original and in mint condition.... price is £8,495. Does this sound reasonable? Thank you

[JamieLeeHall]

Thank you people... I also have in my sight a 2002 submariner bi metal.. it’s much cheaper but includes everything from factory from the Calender down to the ‘ancor’ it is in immaculate condition 10/10 A1... and has never been polished. It is crisp and much better than the one I currently own. Would this be a more sensible option for me? I am a perfectionist and want everything right and the sub ticks all these box’s. Is the bi-metal a down side to this or does it give it more desirability? Thanks guys

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by JamieLeeHall

Thank you people... I also have in my sight a 2002 submariner bi metal.. it’s much cheaper but includes everything from factory from the Calender down to the ‘ancor’ it is in immaculate condition 10/10 A1... and has never been polished. It is crisp and much better than the one I currently own. Would this be a more sensible option for me? I am a perfectionist and want everything right and the sub ticks all these box’s. Is the bi-metal a down side to this or does it give it more desirability? Thanks guys

If you're talking about future profit, bi-metal is usually not the way to go. If you're talking about personal pleasure, which should be the most important part IMO, just buy what you like.

For all we know, a health tech advancement in wrist wearables could drive the price of all of these watches down...or not. It's a casino. Just buy the watch you want to wear.

[JamieLeeHall]

Hi, sorry peeps I havnt got this ‘quote’ thing worked out yet... Douglas thank you for your comment, I shall listen to my heart when looking at all watches considered.

[Maiden]

Originally Posted by JamieLeeHall

Maiden what would you say about a 18038? Could you or anyone tell me anything about this model compared to the 1803? I have found a 18038 which is 100% original and in mint condition.... price is £8,495. Does this sound reasonable? Thank you

Hi more knowledgeable members will chime in here but I believe the 18038 is only a single quickset. I am not sure if it has a sapphire crystal. The watch case is also a litter "fatter" I believe. Its about personal preference though, for me I would go double quick set and 18238.

I have noticed after reading through the thread now that you are kind of all over the map, you are looking at YM or bi metal subs. I have been there before. Its great when you have a large sum burning a hole in your pocket and so many watches to chose from. My recommendation is slow down a bit, enjoy the search, find a way to try some of these watches on. There is no race to buy it. One thing I have learned, the hard way, is that when you miss one, another one always comes along. You just need to be patient. Good luck

[AK797]

I would get the DD seeing as you have/had other watches. As for resale, contact Watchfinder and see what price they would offer for this if you owned it, might scare you off or cement the deal.

[watchwatcher]

Well, if you're looking at getting into buying/selling, then neither one of those is what you want to spend your hard earned 10k on..and no, that is not an insignificant amount of scratch.

You could get a nice clean example of a five digit sub or GMT, and have some left over and you've got something that will most likely go up in value.

But, hey, it's your money.

[breitlings]

i like daytona mlre than dd

[JamieLeeHall]

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

Well, if you're looking at getting into buying/selling, then neither one of those is what you want to spend your hard earned 10k on..and no, that is not an insignificant amount of scratch.

You could get a nice clean example of a five digit sub or GMT, and have some left over and you've got something that will most likely go up in value.

But, hey, it's your money.

Thanks please have a look at my new thread and tell me what you think... more suitable? Submariner 16613T that’s what thread called. Thanks again

[Wcdhtwn]

If money goes through your hands like water you're better off buying bitcoin, ripple, etherium, or the latest crypto craze. Putting money away in watches is like putting it away in roulette. The only options for making a little money in Rolex is a ceramic Daytona. A Sub LV is a close second, today. Then there's the SD43, or if you can (you can't) get a SS Sky Dweller.

Take whatever $$ you have any invest it in an S&P fund, or anything that has the real potential to appreciate.

[BLACKHORSE 6]

Originally Posted by spoilsofwar01

Hello Jay, you have a substantial budget and there's individuals that will happily take this from you, Daytona's like Submariners have always been popular and as such there will always be a demand, Find out where your local dealers are and spend as much time as you can afford looking and trying on even photographing how the said watch sit on your wrist , spend a day in Hatton Gardens London and have a good look around, Buy the best condition that you can find within your price range...... don't be rushed and if in doubt post pictures and ask for opinion's, as for investment..... there's are good investment's and poor investment's and opinions differ, From my side I don't put all of my eggs in one basket, I'm interested in, Shares and ISA's , Property, Gold Coins, Victorian and WW1 Medals, Watches, and antique Jewellery, and general "Cool Junk" .... spreading the risk I call it, all the very best and do let us know how you get on, cheers "H"

Solid advice.

I know it isn’t watch related, but would love to see a pic of the Victorian era and WWI medals!

[Jeffchang1234]

Neither are investment quality so go with what you like.

[JamieLeeHall]

Originally Posted by Wcdhtwn

If money goes through your hands like water you're better off buying bitcoin, ripple, etherium, or the latest crypto craze. Putting money away in watches is like putting it away in roulette. The only options for making a little money in Rolex is a ceramic Daytona. A Sub LV is a close second, today. Then there's the SD43, or if you can (you can't) get a SS Sky Dweller.

Take whatever $$ you have any invest it in an S&P fund, or anything that has the real potential to appreciate.

Thank you i see a common pattern here, basically you can’t win the lottery by ‘knowing’ what numbers are coming up... it’s a guessing game which you have to follow your heart. I have a good budget and my eyes are everywhere looking for the quickest way to deposit my money on one that takes my eye... I am a collector in general I love to collect things so, condition and completeness are my main worries. With that in mind I think you guys have made me think more clear. I now believe getting a complete mint condition sub is more sensible than say a preseident that’s missing links, paper work and which comes with aftermarket parts. Cosmetically I like it but as a collector it’s lack of completeness will irritate me till my dying days. I’m just glad I joined this forum when I did, you guys have stopped me jumping straight in without testing the water first. Thank you to you all

[JamieLeeHall]

Originally Posted by BLACKHORSE 6

Solid advice.

I know it isn’t watch related, but would love to see a pic of the Victorian era and WWI medals!

Same! I want to see all his collectibles haha sounds a really cool dude 😎

[JamieLeeHall]

Originally Posted by Jeffchang1234

Neither are investment quality so go with what you like.

Thank you for your advice, I shall be doing just that :)

[Intense5]

Good day all, though I created this account some time ago, my being in the military/deployed however, has kept me a little busy lol. Question, which will bring the better value over the next 10-20 years-- a platinum day date with baguette hour markers (40mm) OR a platinum Daytona with baguette hour markers? All the best to you all.

[danwang0520]

neither......if daytona, i would rather get 116520 in SS......i would pass on that DD as i would like any Rolex stock

[Strummer25]

Hi Jay. My 2 p worth. I would struggle paying £1000 let alone 19k on a piece that wasn't totally perfect. Good luck on your quest let us know what you end up with

[R!$]

Get the Daytona
I think it'd look funny to see a 28 yr old wearing the same watch as Winston Churchill

[Intense5]

I say Daytona!


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[crippy1082]

Day date...

[wingard_20]

Daytona for sure!


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[Gerardus]

This is a true no brainer for me, DD> all the way.

[Gerardus]

Nice pics👍

Originally Posted by Maiden

Neither watch is a good investment play. I would grab a DD but stay away from aftermarket parts. With you budget I would pick up a more modern 18238, you will get sapphire glass and a double quick set. I did and it is becoming my everyday wear. A few pics of mine.


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