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Old 25 April 2020, 03:59 AM   #1
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New Member - Rolex 1680 Red Help

Hi all, new to posting on the forum but have been reading posts for a long time. Looking for help please. I am looking at this sub. I know the bracelet is service but welcome thoughts on the Insert (could be service) and dial (believe totally original). Also if you think something is not originally very keen to understand how you know as I try to increase my understanding.

Any thoughts welcome and stay safe everyone.
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Old 25 April 2020, 04:22 AM   #2
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As mentioned, thin font service insert. In one image the lower crown guard looks to be polished down to a toothpick. Maybe it’s just the angle of the photo?
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Old 25 April 2020, 04:27 AM   #3
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What are the first three digits of the serial number?
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Old 25 April 2020, 06:53 AM   #4
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Serial number starts 229
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Old 25 April 2020, 09:46 AM   #5
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Serial number starts 229
That would date it to 1969-1970 do you have any pics of the engravings?
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Old 25 April 2020, 07:39 PM   #6
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David,
After you get your comments here from the experienced ones, I suggest you take the watch to an experienced vintage watchmaker to check the movement for authenticity and movement condition. You never know nowadays. London has some good watchmakers Im sure. Maybe you should discuss this with the seller too to have piece of mind and a clean honest transaction.
A picture of the movement posted here is also a good idea. If your watchmaker is honest and suggests a service, pls do it. You will get piece of mind for the next 5-10 yrs.
All the best.
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Old 26 April 2020, 02:19 AM   #7
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Thanks for the advice I will certainly do that. For a 1969 model would you expect to see a Mk2 (long 5) or Mk3 Insert, it seems like it could be either?
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Old 26 April 2020, 07:07 AM   #8
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Thanks for the advice I will certainly do that. For a 1969 model would you expect to see a Mk2 (long 5) or Mk3 Insert, it seems like it could be either?
Mk3 insert

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Old 26 April 2020, 10:49 PM   #9
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Thanks for the advice I will certainly do that. For a 1969 model would you expect to see a Mk2 (long 5) or Mk3 Insert, it seems like it could be either?
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Old 27 April 2020, 12:30 AM   #10
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Two different answers, guess that means there is no concrete answer to the question. Adding a few more photos as asked for. To me the dial and hands all look in very good condition.
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Old 27 April 2020, 01:01 AM   #11
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Two different answers, guess that means there is no concrete answer to the question. Adding a few more photos as asked for. To me the dial and hands all look in very good condition.

It looks lovely to me. But I’m admittedly not great at spotting problematic dials!
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Old 27 April 2020, 03:31 AM   #12
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How much are they asking ?
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Old 27 April 2020, 03:56 AM   #13
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Just waiting back on price, comes with double punched papers so am expecting low 40k USD, will see.
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Old 27 April 2020, 05:02 AM   #14
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That sounds correct ! .

I have a very similar Red Sub slightly earlier and was offered 40k for it around 18 months ago .
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Old 27 April 2020, 05:11 AM   #15
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Rolex doesn't throw anything away. i have seen mk1 2 and 3 in this examples
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Old 27 April 2020, 05:20 AM   #16
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Hi David are you aware off DRSD.COM .?

Mine is very very similar to yours with double punched papers . Fat font insert with correct 9315 bracelet original box and original sales receipt . I paid $22500 or £13,860. For mine in the Autumn of 2014

May I ask who is selling it ?
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Old 27 April 2020, 03:27 PM   #17
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This is my example

http://sheartime.com/products/1969-r...ner-ref-1680-2
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