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1 July 2020, 09:12 AM | #1 |
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Help identifying components of this vintage GMT Master please!
Hope this is the correct forum, if not I apologize. Long story short, a friend is trying to unload his 65 GMT Master, his dad has owned this watch for years, and has been in the family for 30. I can't tell if this bezel matches the serial, which starts with 133.
I am wondering if this looks like a matching face/bezel etc. thank you. |
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No. All service parts.
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A 1965 1675 GMT-Master should have a gilt dial
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2 July 2020, 12:43 AM | #4 |
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What if it was a 66? Can I ask what exactly stands out?
If it was a 66 does it look correct? This old fella swears he is the original owner and it was only at an authorized rolex dealer for a service in the 70's. Thank you both for the input, appreciate it. He wants 8k. |
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I would put that serial in the 66 range. The case back on this one should have a stamp inside to confirm.
Nothing wrong with it. It has been taken care of and proper replacements made when needed.
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I'm trying to replace my fathers lost 1966 GMT, and sadly he can't remember the way it looked exactly either, he's pretty old now lol. Long story short, if this looks like a 1966 with matching components, I'll buy it for him :) |
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Your concern about the bezel insert is also correct. This is not a period correct bezel insert for this watch - it appears to be a service bezel insert (an insert that was replaced by a dealer or the Rolex Service Center during a service.) My opinion would be that there are two possibilities for the discrepancies with this watch. At some point, the dial, hands and bezel insert were changed out with the original gilt dial, small 24-hour hand or hand set and bezel insert. Many of the GMTs from the gilt dial era have had their dials, hands and bezel inserts changed at some point during the past 60 years. The only other option, which is purely my speculation, would be that this GMT case was an unused factory carry-over from the gilt dial era and was never used immediately during the production years but found and later used during the late 1960s. If this did occur, there would be no way of knowing for sure and personally, it would be a "watch with a story" which for me is not anything that I would care to explain to someone nor anything that I could prove.
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Perhaps he just forgets what he may have done to this watch since 1966 :) |
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Is it just me or maybe the angle of the pic ,but the lume plots seem too close to the minute markers ,look at the 1 o'clock & 2 o'clock lume plots there not touching the index markers as they should be,then look at the 10 o'clock & 11 o'clock lume plots & there buried in the index markers & the 6 0'clock plot looks way to close to the Swiss T for me ,is it a possible relume ?
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As has been suggested above, the parts are probably not original, but they are authentic Rolex replacements parts. Overall, the watch would be perfectly fine at the right price for someone who isn't too worried about collectibility. It has a nice vintage look. But the right price would be a SUBSTANTIAL discount compared to an all-original 1966 ref 1675. Like 50% or even more.
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btw the way he wants 12k usd, I offered 9. |
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I believe the other visible components of your friend's watch have been covered already. Hard to be absolutely certain but it seems to suggest that the case and movement may be original (and bracelet?).
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