Building up relationship with AD

[Tim Plains]

Personally, with all the doom & gloom speculation now, I would wait it out if I were trying to buy a new SS Rolex and nothing else.

I'm in Canada and am basing this off a Rolex Facebook group. 126610LNs were selling grey for $11,000 - $12,000 over MSRP. They have steadily dropped and the most recent sale I saw was around $4,500 over MSRP. That's still a hefty premium but you can see the trajectory. It should be a lot easier to get an all black Submariner as the year goes on.

[Ironworker]

Originally Posted by le_boudin

You never seen me and god forbid would ever see… it’s not a horrible, horrible sight I tell u… smbd has to be real pervert or blind to ask sexual favors from me…


anyhow… thank you folks, for the tips and suggestions I’ve got some idea…

[amh]

Originally Posted by bp1000

Find another AD that will sell you the watch you want without any silly games.

You will have to wait for a classic sub but there is no reason whatsoever they can’t supply one to you even if it’s your only watch and you’ll never go back.

This doesn’t apply to rarer pieces.

Each SS sports model brings in $50k of extra revenue - on top of the 10k for the watch itself. They're worth more than the PM models in profit.

[Harry-57]

Nothing is everlasting. Is he planning on having the same job for the next 500 years?

To "build a relationship" you buy things. How many and what value I couldn't say, but if you are willing to spend money on stuff you don't want you will get red carpet treatment, although you won't necessarily get the watch you want any quicker.

Personally I'd be running away from this AD as fast as my legs would carry me and never looking back. It sounds a bit sleazy. I hope you wiped your feet on the way out.

[z_charger]

So weird. Building a relationship with a dealer? Do people do this for cars too? I was in an AD on Thursday, first time browsing Rolex, Tudor, and a number of other luxury watch brands. At no point did I feel obligated to form a (creepy) relationship with an employee to make a purchase.

[Tim Plains]

Originally Posted by z_charger

So weird. Building a relationship with a dealer? Do people do this for cars too?

Ferrari, Porsche, yes. Try buying something like a new Porsche GT3. You won't get anywhere.

[Philadelphialawyer1]

Congratulations on being conned into thinking you need to kiss someone's ass to give them 12 grand for a steel watch.

[John Ryan]

If you really want it I recommend the reseller market.

I have had multiple visits to various ADs over the last 6 months and I am still waiting on basic requests like a datejust, etc. I have lost hope. Jewelry purchases for gifts along the way haven't helped. I am big on relationships and if one had come through, they would likely have my business for life.

While playing this silly game I have also purchased from Omega, IWC, Panerai, Seiko & Grand Seiko. Focusing on other brands for when (if?) the Rolex market comes back to reality.

There is also the vintage market which is a lot of fun.

[diver2012]

Originally Posted by Philadelphialawyer1

Congratulations on being conned into thinking you need to kiss someone's ass to give them 12 grand for a steel watch.

Which you can sell for 18k straight away if you wanted.

[JRell]

I was referred from a good customer to my AD, that helps.

[sleepydoc]

Originally Posted by Watchsama

Ask if they would like a Tequila tasting... Seems popular

never gets old

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by sleepydoc

never gets old

Actually…


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[Giovannibravo]

Originally Posted by Nova1

You could have sex with them.

This cracked me up.

[1259]

We have all strong urges we must indulge in from time to time. Hopefully this everlasting relationship will fulfill yours.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by 4 Aussies

If you're only looking to acquire one Rolex with no future desire to own more at this time, don't waste your time and money establishing a relationship with an AD, go trusted seller. Good luck!!

Exactly this IMO

OP, If you have patience then you could wait it out and see, but I’d never buy anything from an AD other than the specific reference I truly wanted

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by le_boudin

what is the average investment in the process of establishing and strengthening friendly ties with your AD.

Seems like you need to ask your AD this question. Not sure how anyone here could know what your AD requires.

Welcome to the forum.

[drrd]

I’m not expecting an incoming watch post anytime soon.

I would certainly appreciate you posting any further conversations you might have with your AD.

[Vivalas]

When an AD I’ve known for 10 years started talking about ‘unicorn’ models I realised I was done and dusted - no way I’m playing their games and l even less me buying a load of carp that I don’t want.

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by Langeholic

I got—at retail—the blue SkyD on Jubilee, which has a reputation for being the 2nd hardest to get after the SS Daytona. “Aren’t exactly the hardest to get ones”? C’mon, now. I don’t see the need to downplay my experience.

I also waited a full order of magnitude less than what you’d read online, from the moment of expression of interest in the model to “getting the call”.

It probably also helps that I never sell any of my watches and am not a flipper.

Good on you OP; my experience is similar to yours. I think the negative is emphasized here. Lots of good ADs out there, if you feel you're not getting a fair shake move along to find one.

[Meyrin]

Originally Posted by Trailboss516

You owe them nothing. They should be "building a relationship" with YOU by selling pieces you ask for.
Anything outside of that is stupid.

Well said! They should be hungry for our money, especially in the present rather unsettled economic climate, at least here in Europe. I don´t know when all this ridiculous talk of "building a relationship" started, but imo it´s just that...ridiculous if not to say embarrassing. I would never pander to any retail business, no matter how much I wanted something. As you say, they should be "building a relationship" with us, the customers who spend hard-earned money to keep them in business!

[z_charger]

Originally Posted by Nova1

You could have sex with them.

Best answer so far.

[2001jesper]

Originally Posted by Nova1

You could have sex with them.

Laughed more than I should

Originally Posted by Trailboss516

You owe them nothing. They should be "building a relationship" with YOU by selling pieces you ask for.
Anything outside of that is stupid.

Agree - Don't play the game as its a one-way relationship. If you want ex a Sub then go grey and enjoy it tomorrow. No reason to buy multiple watches or jewelry you don't want, in order to potentially buy the watch you desire at an unknown point in time and without any guarantees.

[yankeeromeo]

Originally Posted by amphora001

Next week is my birthday and I've decided to buy the last watch on my own wishlist via Moda Facebook seller. I was trying to visit my AD yesterday, because my old SA disappeared on me, assuming he retired, and was assigned some new SA. I emailed ahead saying I will come visit and he said see you soon. I head to downtown SF at 4pm on Friday and found all the stores were closed because SFPD was worried there'd be a riot. A heads up would have been nice as the store was apparently closed at 3p and I didn't have to drive there and then get stuck in the insane traffic.

Anyway long story short, my AD is dead to me!

Look at the priced in grey or secondary dealer, the real price, not the inflated price of Chrono24. Then decide if it's worth the trouble, the years of establishing a relationship. You utilize you money and time the best you are able to.

:(

[321Forever]

Originally Posted by 4 Aussies

If you're only looking to acquire one Rolex with no future desire to own more at this time, don't waste your time and money establishing a relationship with an AD, go trusted seller. Good luck!!

This. Worth requoting 2x.

It's the only circumstance where I'd recommend going grey, where you just want the one and then you're done.

[Mr Ben]

Originally Posted by jakemeister

This. Worth requoting 2x.

It's the only circumstance where I'd recommend going grey, where you just want the one and then you're done.

As someone who did exactly this I also agree. However - I’m now not so sure. When I had none, I knew I only needed one so going grey was sensible. Now I have one, I find myself wondering if two might actually be better… but it’s only another one I need to buy so might as well go grey again I suppose?

I wonder what happens when I buy the next one……

[H25B]

This is backwards. You should get what you want FIRST, then reward the AD with any future non-watch/Rolex purchases going forward. At least that’s how I did it. I don’t mind being in a business relationship and can be very loyal, but I don’t like being forced to make the first move.

[le_boudin]

hey folks thanks again… this thread was quite an eye opener for me…

[tifosi]

LOL. This AD relationship bs is such, well, bs. So dumb.

[yankeeromeo]

Originally Posted by H25B

This is backwards. You should get what you want FIRST, then reward the AD with any future non-watch/Rolex purchases going forward. At least that’s how I did it. I don’t mind being in a business relationship and can be very loyal, but I don’t like being forced to make the first move.

They won't force you, but if you don't you'll get stuff slower.

[Littletommy]

Originally Posted by Nova1

You could have sex with them.

This