5522

[Vipes]

Originally Posted by KarlS

The nice thing about dealer allocation that with at least 6 watches per AD you know exactly how little your AD thinks of you when you don't get one!!!

Yea, I think my feelings will be hurt.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by Socal to az

I think there is 60 some odd ADs in the us if I'm not mistaken. Average of 10 per AD. Some may get 15. Others 5. Doubt if anyone is getting 30-50.

I've heard some ADs are getting really small numbers.... So I believe some of the bigger ones (Wempe NY another example) are getting more than 10. And this makes sense frankly. Some big ADs in big markets have more big customers while small ADs in small markets have less. If this was all based off of lists ADs submitted to Patek and Patek decided which customers where are getting what, it seems to me that Tiffany/Wempe (just as an example) are getting more than 10.

But all speculation of course...

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

Wish that were true my friend. The reality is certain ADs are getting big numbers (wouldn't be surprised if Tiffany NYC gets 30-50) while others are getting 1-2 or 0....


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You mean a dealer might say "sorry we can't allocate one as we only got 1 or 2"!!! Hiding the other 5 in the safe

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by KarlS

You mean a dealer might say "sorry we can't allocate one as we only got 1 or 2"!!! Hiding the other 5 in the safe

Or a dealer will say, sorry we can't give you one as we are only getting 10 while they are getting 35...

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

Or a dealer will say, sorry we can't give you one as we are only getting 10 while they are getting 35...

Then you should really be pissed if you don't make the 10!!!

[Socal to az]

Oh very possible no doubt but they had to submit customer names to patek for the certificate. Easily forged I know but I'm hoping Patek would not allow that.

Frankly this is going to become a thing for patterson- limited edition watches to drive frenzy. I predict 2-3 limited exclusive double secret probation watches at Basel.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Then you should really be pissed if you don't make the 10!!!

Yes, sure assuming you are a sufficiently significant retail customer.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

Yes, sure assuming you are a sufficiently significant retail customer.

Well the 5522 was released for hype...I did a post about it after meeting some of the Rhone people last week...of course vokunevwill determine how many are allocated but I don't for a moment think it's 1 or 2 per dealer!! Humour me and jets say 84 outlets! That's 6 per outlet and 36 left over. In fact let's say 5 per outlet tgat leaves 130 left over!!! Anyway if it makes people feel better I am all for it...next thing people will say dealers are using this to push other models as a teaser!!?

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Well the 5522 was released for hype...I did a post about it after meeting some of the Rhone people last week...of course vokunevwill determine how many are allocated but I don't for a moment think it's 1 or 2 per dealer!! Humour me and jets say 84 outlets! That's 6 per outlet and 36 left over. In fact let's say 5 per outlet tgat leaves 130 left over!!! Anyway if it makes people feel better I am all for it...next thing people will say dealers are using this to push other models as a teaser!!?

Please share Karl. I didn't see your other post.

I think the exhibition in NY has been quite successful at boosting interest in this brand that we all so enjoy. Even on the vintage side a few vintage dealers whom I know believe it is bringing interest to vintage patek...

PS: As to how the watches are being allocated, I suppose it's anyone's guess but based on the information I have so far, I believe bigger ADs in bigger markets are getting many more 5522s than smaller ADs in smaller markets. To distribute 5522s evenly to all ADs in the U.S. would be just silly.

If 100 5522s go to NY and another 100 (or more) go to California, you can see how the number changes quickly.

[KarlS]

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...79#post7913379

Also remember TS stated the American market is its top market with half the sales ...maybe someone can dig that up!! That means 30000 watches a year ha ha ....he is just playing to the audience...the estimate has always been 15-20%....but when u put on a show you need to push it...of course NYE was a success...this is PR at its best...London was the same and I bet Hong Kong will be as well...I am all for increasing brand awareness

Apologies for typos in previous thread was standing in a queue in an airport

[drmovement]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Then you should really be pissed if you don't make the 10!!!

I used to work with a large AD and have bought quite a few watches from them (5 pateks and many others). I went to the exhibition, expressed interest in the watch and they never even called me. That is when I called the other AD I worked with a lot in the past and they were able to pull through. What is interesting about the whole thing is I def have done much more with the first AD. Oh well live and learn.

[Updyke]

Originally Posted by Socal to az

I think there is 60 some odd ADs in the us if I'm not mistaken. Average of 10 per AD. Some may get 15. Others 5. Doubt if anyone is getting 30-50.

Socal to Az, my understanding is that there are 87 PP AD's here in the US. if I remember this came from Patek when we were in NY at the Show.

[Socal to az]

Originally Posted by Updyke

Socal to Az, my understanding is that there are 87 PP AD's here in the US. if I remember this came from Patek when we were in NY at the Show.

you are correct. I was mistaken on my number.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by KarlS

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...79#post7913379

Also remember TS stated the American market is its top market with half the sales ...maybe someone can dig that up!! That means 30000 watches a year ha ha ....he is just playing to the audience...the estimate has always been 15-20%....but when u put on a show you need to push it...of course NYE was a success...this is PR at its best...London was the same and I bet Hong Kong will be as well...I am all for increasing brand awareness

Apologies for typos in previous thread was standing in a queue in an airport

Good for Patek for putting on the marketing machine and doing it in a classy yet very effective way. In the US it has been effective in particular in the sporty watch / entry level category but good to get the interest going.

5975! Can't believe you bring that one up Not legible and automatic when it should have been manual wind! But hey to each his own. 5522 is super popular because it's an entry level sports watch (priced almost the same as the most affordable men's watch in the entire line up!), it's steel and it is LIMITED. Is it worth more than retail? Who knows, who cares frankly. It's to be enjoyed for what it is and I think many folks are losing sight of that.

[KarlS]

^ some of us have moved on from stating a chrono has to be manual!! Vertical clutch versus a movement that's designed to be stared at. Exact reason not interested in a 5270...but we all have to agree....beauty is in the eye if the beholder and we all have different tastes

[lapince]

Originally Posted by KarlS

^ some of us have moved on from stating a chrono has to be manual!! Vertical clutch versus a movement that's designed to be stared at. Exact reason not interested in a 5270...but we all have to agree....beauty is in the eye if the beholder and we all have different tastes

What? I am getting ready to trade my Voutilainen for a 5522, even trade, I thought you were too

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by lapince

What? I am getting ready to trade my Voutilainen for a 5522, even trade, I thought you were too

Good trade but you won't get the bust... :)


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[KarlS]

Originally Posted by lapince

What? I am getting ready to trade my Voutilainen for a 5522, even trade, I thought you were too

I think it safe to say you won't lose cash on the 5522 but I dare say you will bleed significantly with the KV

[lapince]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I think it safe to say you won't lose cash on the 5522 but I dare say you will bleed significantly with the KV

No even trade, won't loose anything kidding of course, no way this one is going, too special

Originally Posted by thomaspp

Good trade but you won't get the bust... :)


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Yeah great trade, a 94k CHF watch for a 20k one, that's what I call a bargain))) but PP hadn't released this marvel when I ordered the KV, if only I had known

[drmovement]

Well here it is, I am very excited to own this piece. I received it sealed, but I broke the seal right there and then. I am home now staring at the simplicity of this piece. It feels great on the wrist. The strap is firm, but I am sure it will be great after even just 1 week of wear.

[RussW]

Originally Posted by drmovement

Well here it is, I am very excited to own this piece. I received it sealed, but I broke the seal right there and then. I am home now staring at the simplicity of this piece. It feels great on the wrist. The strap is firm, but I am sure it will be great after even just 1 week of wear.

Congrats, another happy owner. Looks fantastic.

[Socal to az]

It's a stunning piece! Loving mine. Congrats.


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[mike_bronco]

Hi all. I'll admit when the 5522(a) first came to my attention, as a vintage enthusiast I thought it was too large. After all, my grail is a vintage 565 measuring a modest 35mm. However, due to the the simplicity, dial, and automatic movement, I have warmed to the 5522(a) considerably. I got a call from my AD who said they might get an extra one if I was interested. If I were to buy it out of the need to make a quick decision or lose it, would I be foolish not to grab it, even if I later changed my mind?
PS--wrist shots are great. Wonder if anyone could post (or has posted) a pic with a 5522 next to a sport Rolex (for a size comparison).
Thanks!

[Socal to az]

Dude- just buy it. If you don't like it- you can resell it in 4 minutes. Not sure you are gonna get 50k in the sale but you will get your money back. Buy it. Don't think twice. I would not hesitate for a second. It's the safest purchase you will make.

[MoosicPa]

Originally Posted by mike_bronco

Hi all. I'll admit when the 5522(a) first came to my attention, as a vintage enthusiast I thought it was too large. After all, my grail is a vintage 565 measuring a modest 35mm. However, due to the the simplicity, dial, and automatic movement, I have warmed to the 5522(a) considerably. I got a call from my AD who said they might get an extra one if I was interested. If I were to buy it out of the need to make a quick decision or lose it, would I be foolish not to grab it, even if I later changed my mind?
PS--wrist shots are great. Wonder if anyone could post (or has posted) a pic with a 5522 next to a sport Rolex (for a size comparison).
Thanks!

Here it is with the Nautalis, Aquanaut, Gondolo and Calatravas

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[MoosicPa]

@drmovement and @Socal to az congrats! Looking great! I still haven't worn mine yet, but plan on doing so this coming week.

[mike_bronco]

Nice shot! Thanks a lot @MoosicPA, and that's obviously an amazing collection.

And thanks @Socal to az!

[vipereaper30]

Awesome pics, gents. I just got the call today that mine is at the AD but I won't be able to get it until March. Please keep up the photos!

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by vipereaper30

Awesome pics, gents. I just got the call today that mine is at the AD but I won't be able to get it until March. Please keep up the photos!

Congrats and Get home safe

[vipereaper30]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Congrats and Get home safe

Thanks! So my wife got to do the unboxing herself and let me watch over video chat. I don't know how I'm going to be able to wait 5 more months...