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khalifam · 23 October 2021, 02:49 AM

Hi all,

Literally a few hours ago I posted about wanting to purchase a 310.30.42.50.01.002

I thought I'd pop over to my AD and they had a preowned 2021 speedy at about 25% off list.

I'm here now, it has all of its warranty cards etc but the box is the old style box?

I asked them and they were kind of like hmmm we didn't even realise. The sellers are an omega, rolex and patek dealer so I know I'd never get scammed but the old box is a bit off putting... but then again a 2021 watch for 27% off list?

Here's some pics it comes with two natos and a bracelet removal tool but no omega loup.

They are saying when their customer purchased it (from another dealer) he may have requested to have the old box... I don't know? What are your thoughts 20211022_174612.jpg 20211022_174634.jpg

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khalifam · 23 October 2021, 02:51 AM

I'm so sorry about the quality I don't know why the quality is so poor.20211022_175018.jpg

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alllexandru · 23 October 2021, 03:13 AM

This is the pre 2021 Speedmaster box, it is up to you if you go ahead and buy
If you say the AD is official Omega then they should have known this is the old box.
There should be a loupe, black nato strap and a black size bracelet tool in that box

Dont know what to say......:)

AdamW · 23 October 2021, 03:37 AM

27% list, from an AD with papers brand new... Do it. If you want to sell down the line, you'll probably be able to pick up the correct box.

Nodzex · 23 October 2021, 04:19 AM

If the papers match the serial number of the watch and everything else looks legit, I say go for it, you are not going to wear the box on your wrist!

ratty · 23 October 2021, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamW

27% list, from an AD with papers brand new... Do it. If you want to sell down the line, you'll probably be able to pick up the correct box.

It’s not brand new, it’s second hand.

ratty · 23 October 2021, 04:37 AM

This is where you have to decide how much being the first owner with the correct box and extras is worth to you.

Only you can put a price on this!

Texans93 · 23 October 2021, 04:39 AM

Anxious to learn what you decided...

JR16 · 23 October 2021, 05:56 AM

I didn’t realize omega AD would also sell pre-owned omega . Frowned upon in the Rolex universe.
Personally I would not buy it with the wrong box. If it’s an AD, they should have no problem supplying you with the correct box though.

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khalifam · 23 October 2021, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR16

I didn’t realize omega AD would also sell pre-owned omega . Frowned upon in the Rolex universe.
Personally I would not buy it with the wrong box. If it’s an AD, they should have no problem supplying you with the correct box though.

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Almost every single rolex AD in the UK sells preowned Rolex
Pragnells
Goldsmiths, WOS, Mapin & Web
Frazer Hart
BUCHERER
And many many more.

I am off there again tomorrow to see if they will put it in a new 2021 box and we have a deal :)

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JR16 · 23 October 2021, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khalifam

Almost every single rolex AD in the UK sells preowned Rolex
Pragnells
Goldsmiths, WOS, Mapin & Web
Frazer Hart
BUCHERER
And many many more.

I am off there again tomorrow to see if they will put it in a new 2021 box and we have a deal :)

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My bad …
Didn’t realize you were in the UK!
Good luck !

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AdamW · 23 October 2021, 06:09 AM

Sorry didn't realize it was used. I would be fine if everything matched and they were able to source you the correct box

AEC · 23 October 2021, 08:03 AM

I would buy it. I kinda couldn't care less what sort of box comes with it. Every time I've acquired new Omega watches, the watch come out of the box, the box goes into a cabinet in my home, and then I never see that box again.

Beo3 · 23 October 2021, 09:21 AM

For a 25% discount off of MSRP I'd take the incorrect box.

All my watches are together in a watch box inside of the safe. The boxes in which they came are in two clear plastic containers on top of the closet.

I can't wear a box and no one will ever know, unless of course you plan on flipping it. Even then, the resale would only be reduced by a few hundred, if even that.

Buy it, it's a great watch!

RidingDonkeys · 23 October 2021, 10:18 AM

If you ever sell, potential buyers will be asking the same question. If you don't plan on selling, then enjoy the discount and the watch.

Sent from the voices in my head and transcribed by their drinking buddy.

1981Eagle · 23 October 2021, 10:33 AM

I believe that most, if not all, dealers don’t care about the box. When I bought my wife her Date 34, the box had a blemish that I pointed out- the SA shrugged her shoulders and went in back and swapped out boxes with another Rolex. I really think that some of them probably laugh at how obsessed we can be.

doozyj · 23 October 2021, 12:30 PM

Sell the old box and buy the new one, seriously it’s just a box.

Stevec14 · 23 October 2021, 02:53 PM

I’d buy it for 25% off. Does it have the nato and the other bits in the box? That in itself is worth a few quid.

If you are not sure and may flip then you are going to take a bath anyway so get the best discount you can.

1William · 23 October 2021, 10:37 PM

The Speedmaster 3861 is a great watch and the discount offered is right where you need to be. I would buy the watch, put the box on the shelf with the rest of them and enjoy the watch. I have the 3861 and the 1861 and the box for the 1861 is a lot better and you get some goodies that are not offer with the 3861. Good luck and lets see some pictures of your new watch.

airchitect · 23 October 2021, 10:42 PM

Considering the new box doesn’t come with all of the fun stuff the old one did, I’d take the old one

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brandrea · 23 October 2021, 10:54 PM

Buy it

C0d · 24 October 2021, 01:37 AM

Damn. I wish I were in the UK. No Omega or Rolex dealers here sell used.

Brand new and scarce.

Nooo Canada!

OP - I think missing box is relfected in the price. Think of it as no box. Discount is substantial as long as everything checks out.

khalifam · 24 October 2021, 04:55 AM

Here he is folks.

They weren't prepared to put a new box with it. Decided that I'm getting a pretty decent discount, I'm going to sell this box and use it towards the purchase!

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alllexandru · 24 October 2021, 05:09 AM

Congratulations

AEC · 24 October 2021, 09:29 AM

Nice Omega

I think the sapphire sandwich is the hot, desirable version. Nice to hear you found a bargain on one.

ratty · 24 October 2021, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khalifam

Here he is folks.

They weren't prepared to put a new box with it. Decided that I'm getting a pretty decent discount, I'm going to sell this box and use it towards the purchase!

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Very nice, congratulations.

1William · 24 October 2021, 10:33 PM

Congratulations. Great watch. Enjoy.

TunaTuna · 26 October 2021, 08:17 AM

Obviously the owner bought the wrong box off of ebay before he sold it to the store, that's all. Use it as a bargaining chip to get another couple hundred off

winst · 26 October 2021, 08:49 AM

Nice - congratulations!

colpol · 26 October 2021, 04:41 PM

Well done

23 October 2021, 02:49 AM	#1
khalifam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,071	At the ad! Help Hi all, Literally a few hours ago I posted about wanting to purchase a 310.30.42.50.01.002 I thought I'd pop over to my AD and they had a preowned 2021 speedy at about 25% off list. I'm here now, it has all of its warranty cards etc but the box is the old style box? I asked them and they were kind of like hmmm we didn't even realise. The sellers are an omega, rolex and patek dealer so I know I'd never get scammed but the old box is a bit off putting... but then again a 2021 watch for 27% off list? Here's some pics it comes with two natos and a bracelet removal tool but no omega loup. They are saying when their customer purchased it (from another dealer) he may have requested to have the old box... I don't know? What are your thoughts 20211022_174612.jpg 20211022_174634.jpg Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk

23 October 2021, 03:37 AM	#4
AdamW "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Adam Location: In my head Watch: this space Posts: 785	27% list, from an AD with papers brand new... Do it. If you want to sell down the line, you'll probably be able to pick up the correct box. __________________ Adam " I don't have a microwave oven but I do have a clock that occasionally cooks $h!t" - Mitch Hedburgh

23 October 2021, 06:09 AM	#12
AdamW "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Adam Location: In my head Watch: this space Posts: 785	Sorry didn't realize it was used. I would be fine if everything matched and they were able to source you the correct box __________________ Adam " I don't have a microwave oven but I do have a clock that occasionally cooks $h!t" - Mitch Hedburgh

23 October 2021, 02:51 AM	#2
khalifam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,071	I'm so sorry about the quality I don't know why the quality is so poor.20211022_175018.jpg Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk

23 October 2021, 03:13 AM	#3
alllexandru 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Old continent Posts: 2,317	This is the pre 2021 Speedmaster box, it is up to you if you go ahead and buy If you say the AD is official Omega then they should have known this is the old box. There should be a loupe, black nato strap and a black size bracelet tool in that box Dont know what to say......:)

23 October 2021, 04:19 AM	#5
Nodzex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 650	If the papers match the serial number of the watch and everything else looks legit, I say go for it, you are not going to wear the box on your wrist!

23 October 2021, 04:37 AM	#7
ratty "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Graham Location: UK Watch: Daytonas and Subs Posts: 2,644	This is where you have to decide how much being the first owner with the correct box and extras is worth to you. Only you can put a price on this!

23 October 2021, 04:39 AM	#8
Texans93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texas Watch: Sea Dweller 43 Posts: 260	Anxious to learn what you decided...

23 October 2021, 05:56 AM	#9
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,188	I didn’t realize omega AD would also sell pre-owned omega . Frowned upon in the Rolex universe. Personally I would not buy it with the wrong box. If it’s an AD, they should have no problem supplying you with the correct box though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

23 October 2021, 08:03 AM	#13
AEC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tony Location: Orchard Park, NY Watch: Idiot Savant Posts: 3,244	I would buy it. I kinda couldn't care less what sort of box comes with it. Every time I've acquired new Omega watches, the watch come out of the box, the box goes into a cabinet in my home, and then I never see that box again.

23 October 2021, 09:21 AM	#14
Beo3 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Eddie Location: NY Watch: Too Many Posts: 17,915	For a 25% discount off of MSRP I'd take the incorrect box. All my watches are together in a watch box inside of the safe. The boxes in which they came are in two clear plastic containers on top of the closet. I can't wear a box and no one will ever know, unless of course you plan on flipping it. Even then, the resale would only be reduced by a few hundred, if even that. Buy it, it's a great watch!

23 October 2021, 10:18 AM	#15
RidingDonkeys "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 147	If you ever sell, potential buyers will be asking the same question. If you don't plan on selling, then enjoy the discount and the watch. Sent from the voices in my head and transcribed by their drinking buddy.

23 October 2021, 10:33 AM	#16
1981Eagle "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Charlie Location: Virginia, USA Watch: Superocean 42 Posts: 28	I believe that most, if not all, dealers don’t care about the box. When I bought my wife her Date 34, the box had a blemish that I pointed out- the SA shrugged her shoulders and went in back and swapped out boxes with another Rolex. I really think that some of them probably laugh at how obsessed we can be.

23 October 2021, 12:30 PM	#17
doozyj "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Los Angeles Watch: DSSD Posts: 201	Sell the old box and buy the new one, seriously it’s just a box.

23 October 2021, 02:53 PM	#18
Stevec14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Steve Location: U.K. Watch: 321, Snoopy 3 Posts: 4,400	I’d buy it for 25% off. Does it have the nato and the other bits in the box? That in itself is worth a few quid. If you are not sure and may flip then you are going to take a bath anyway so get the best discount you can.

23 October 2021, 10:37 PM	#19
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,749	The Speedmaster 3861 is a great watch and the discount offered is right where you need to be. I would buy the watch, put the box on the shelf with the rest of them and enjoy the watch. I have the 3861 and the 1861 and the box for the 1861 is a lot better and you get some goodies that are not offer with the 3861. Good luck and lets see some pictures of your new watch.

23 October 2021, 10:42 PM	#20
airchitect "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: KY Watch: A few..... Posts: 3,784	Considering the new box doesn’t come with all of the fun stuff the old one did, I’d take the old one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 October 2021, 10:54 PM	#21
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,696	Buy it

24 October 2021, 01:37 AM	#22
C0d Banned Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Kanata Watch: Dog Posts: 815	Damn. I wish I were in the UK. No Omega or Rolex dealers here sell used. Brand new and scarce. Nooo Canada! OP - I think missing box is relfected in the price. Think of it as no box. Discount is substantial as long as everything checks out.

24 October 2021, 04:55 AM	#23
khalifam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,071	Here he is folks. They weren't prepared to put a new box with it. Decided that I'm getting a pretty decent discount, I'm going to sell this box and use it towards the purchase! 20211023_195352.jpg 20211023_195345.jpg 20211023_195308.jpg Sent from my SM-F926B using Tapatalk

24 October 2021, 05:09 AM	#24
alllexandru 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Old continent Posts: 2,317	Congratulations

24 October 2021, 09:29 AM	#25
AEC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Tony Location: Orchard Park, NY Watch: Idiot Savant Posts: 3,244	Nice Omega I think the sapphire sandwich is the hot, desirable version. Nice to hear you found a bargain on one.

24 October 2021, 10:33 PM	#27
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,749	Congratulations. Great watch. Enjoy.

26 October 2021, 08:17 AM	#28
TunaTuna 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Merica Posts: 1,310	Obviously the owner bought the wrong box off of ebay before he sold it to the store, that's all. Use it as a bargaining chip to get another couple hundred off

26 October 2021, 08:49 AM	#29
winst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: UK Posts: 6,478	Nice - congratulations!

26 October 2021, 04:41 PM	#30
colpol "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,844	Well done

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