Patek 7968/300R-001 Aquanaut Luce rainbow

[jeffs]

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of getting the 7968 Aquanaut Luce Rainbow for my wife. I don't see it being mentioned here on this forum. What do you guys think about the rarity of this watch? Would this watch be considered as desirable as say a 5712R or 5811G? Do you guys think it will be easier to ask my AD for a 5712R or the 7968R? I have a relationship with my AD where I'm getting it from.

What do you guys think about future value/desirability of gemset pateks? I rarely see them being discussed here.

Thank you in advance for your feedback.

[HMHM]

It’s a lovely piece of watch! I think PP did well with this release but sadly it was released in the female size or else it would have exploded in popularity. Rarity will almost be guaranteed as I was told it’s an application piece. Not that I’m looking for one as the cost is prohibitive but just through a brief discussion with the AD on the day of release.

[Ichiran]

In terms of difficulty, the 5712R is about 70 out of 100 while that Rainbow Aquanaut is 1,000,000 out of 100. Sorry for my poor maths but that's my perception.

[EEpro]

It's quite nice but my wife would rather have a new G wagen or a Range Rover with a backseat full of Chanel bags for $225,000.

Did she ask for something like this?

[DonLee]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

In terms of difficulty, the 5712R is about 70 out of 100 while that Rainbow Aquanaut is 1,000,000 out of 100. Sorry for my poor maths but that's my perception.

really? considering the rainbow aquanaut retail price is about 10x the price of the 5167a, I doubt that the lines will be that long. Sure they will produce fewer examples for some very exclusively wealthy individuals, but I don't think it's not possible.

And besides, in person, i didn't like the watch that much. IMO, the 5268R is the best looking out of all of them.

Originally Posted by EEpro

It's quite nice but my wife would rather have a new G wagen or a Range Rover with a backseat full of Chanel bags for $225,000.

Did she ask for something like this?

My wife would wouldn't mind the chanel bags, but she'd take nice watch > nice car. At least the watch holds value, so do the chanel bags.

[jeffs]

Originally Posted by HMHM

It’s a lovely piece of watch! I think PP did well with this release but sadly it was released in the female size or else it would have exploded in popularity. Rarity will almost be guaranteed as I was told it’s an application piece. Not that I’m looking for one as the cost is prohibitive but just through a brief discussion with the AD on the day of release.

Well my AD didn't say its an application piece, just that he say I may have to wait for this one.

[jeffs]

Originally Posted by EEpro

It's quite nice but my wife would rather have a new G wagen or a Range Rover with a backseat full of Chanel bags for $225,000.

Did she ask for something like this?

well my wife asked for a gold watch and since it's her 40th birthday I'm just being generous I guess. The new RR is nice though haha.

[jeffs]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

In terms of difficulty, the 5712R is about 70 out of 100 while that Rainbow Aquanaut is 1,000,000 out of 100. Sorry for my poor maths but that's my perception.

So you perceive the rainbow aquanaut to be harder to get than lets say a 5712R? Makes me want to fight for the rainbow aquanaut. Thanks for your input

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by jeffs

So you perceive the rainbow aquanaut to be harder to get than lets say a 5712R? Makes me want to fight for the rainbow aquanaut. Thanks for your input

For avoidance of doubt, are you referring to 5712R (strap) or 5712/1R (bracelet)? If you are thinking of 5712/1R, the difficulty level is 100 out of 100, but the rainbow is still tremendously harder to get. That rainbow is an unicorn and the production volume I reckon will be way lower than the 5711 turquoise. Maybe less than the green 5711 baguette.

[DonLee]

Originally Posted by HMHM

It’s a lovely piece of watch! I think PP did well with this release but sadly it was released in the female size or else it would have exploded in popularity. Rarity will almost be guaranteed as I was told it’s an application piece. Not that I’m looking for one as the cost is prohibitive but just through a brief discussion with the AD on the day of release.

female size?? It's 40mm. It comes with 3 straps, but clearly the white strap looks 100x better than the other 2.

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by DonLee

female size?? It's 40mm. It comes with 3 straps, but clearly the white strap looks 100x better than the other 2.

I agree out of the 3 straps, the white looks the best, followed by the red. The grey looks weird. And yes, it is designated for female hence the 7968 model reference, just like all the Nautilus with the 7xxx model reference. If they made the Aquanaut Rainbow in a male reference number like 5968, it will be the next best thing to the reincarnation of Jesus and we will be hearing how unicorns are real as per Revolution watch and Hodinkee.

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[Booth9999]

I would argue that there are only a few watches that aren’t good for both genders, especially now these lines are merely a recommendation based off of old ideals.

[DonLee]

Originally Posted by HMHM

I agree out of the 3 straps, the white looks the best, followed by the red. The grey looks weird. And yes, it is designated for female hence the 7968 model reference, just like all the Nautilus with the 7xxx model reference. If they made the Aquanaut Rainbow in a male reference number like 5968, it will be the next best thing to the reincarnation of Jesus and we will be hearing how unicorns are real as per Revolution watch and Hodinkee.

The first Aquanaut was just 35mm. this is 5mm larger. In addition to the extra thickness, it's visibly larger than 5167a. So whether it starts with a 7 or a 5 it certainly isn't a watch size made for ladies. If men were to not wear this, it would have nothing to do with the size, and to do with the design and color skeme. I tried one on last year but i didn't even bother to take a picture of it, because the watch just isn't for me.

[HMHM]

Originally Posted by DonLee

The first Aquanaut was just 35mm. this is 5mm larger. In addition to the extra thickness, it's visibly larger than 5167a. So whether it starts with a 7 or a 5 it certainly isn't a watch size made for ladies. If men were to not wear this, it would have nothing to do with the size, and to do with the design and color skeme. I tried one on last year but i didn't even bother to take a picture of it, because the watch just isn't for me.

People are allowed to wear a watch that makes them feel comfortable, irrespective of whether the watch was intended for male or female. However, the model reference designated by the manufacturer identifies who their target audience are. Whether people follow that strictly is a separate question entirely.

Why PP did not give the Rainbow Aquanaut a 5xxx reference number is anyone's guess, but going through the website, most of the models with 7xxx reference number are targeted at females. However, anyone with that kind of money can wear whatever they want as long as they are rock it with confidence. Two people seen to be wearing the 7968 are males so clearly the distinction is not clear cut, but I am just going by the nomenclature that Patek have generally used for their watches.

[DonLee]

Originally Posted by HMHM

Why PP did not give the Rainbow Aquanaut a 5xxx reference number is anyone's guess,

because the stones and design color of the aquanaut is more feminine.

[dsquared2]

I had the opportunity to try it and I recognize that is an awesome piece but not for that price (imho).

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[Benzsiam]

Originally Posted by dsquared2

i had the opportunity to try it and i recognize that is an awesome piece but not for that price (imho).

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[DK7]

new experience how hard to get in reality?

[capjand1]

Originally Posted by DK7

new experience how hard to get in reality?

1~2 watches per year for a large AD.
So much harder to be allocated one than any other Nautilus.

[DK7]

Originally Posted by capjand1

1~2 watches per year for a large AD.
So much harder to be allocated one than any other Nautilus.

That would be ~ 400-600 units p.a., i think way to much for a Rainbow application piece imho.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by EEpro

It's quite nice but my wife would rather have a new G wagen or a Range Rover with a backseat full of Chanel bags for $225,000.

Did she ask for something like this?

Or one diamond crusted Hermes Himalayan Birkin/Kelly. I think this aquanaut should be harder to get than that though. A G wagon would be a lot easier to get since I always see one at the dealership.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by capjand1

1~2 watches per year for a large AD.
So much harder to be allocated one than any other Nautilus.

That will be the same as a 5740. Surprisingly high.

Wonder if the OP got an allocation?

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by llngoc

That will be the same as a 5740. Surprisingly high.

I think the challenge is finding those blue and fancy sapphires, and MOP. My guess is not more than 50 pcs annually across the 300+ AD globally.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I think the challenge is finding those blue and fancy sapphires, and MOP. My guess is not more than 50 pcs annually across the 300+ AD globally.

Make sense. Cannot be in the same volume as 5740 or we will see it on the shelf.

[HMHM]

It’s not just the quality/colour of the sapphire stones, but it’s also how each sapphire can blend in with the one before and after it on the bezel. That’s the tricky part. I think individually all the stones are high quality by itself, but sometimes the gem setter isn’t able to match one stone with the rest to truly highlight the transition of colour to give it the rainbow effect. That’s why factory gem set is so rare as opposed to those backyard gem setting which just takes any coloured stones and fix them on the watch.

[Tonski74]

Does anyone know how rare the 5072R is? I don’t see much info on this watch either on this forum or the web in general. I am assuming more are made compared to the 7968…


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[Oryx]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

In terms of difficulty, the 5712R is about 70 out of 100 while that Rainbow Aquanaut is 1,000,000 out of 100. Sorry for my poor maths but that's my perception.

Totally agree - this is going to be a very difficult watch to get even with such a high rrp.

[capjand1]

Originally Posted by DK7

That would be ~ 400-600 units p.a., i think way to much for a Rainbow application piece imho.

I can only speak for my AD, whom has large coverage in Asia, they already received 2 since the launch.
And I meant large AD, the other small to medium ADs may need to wait longer.

[Kittayos]

I'm confident of all the current nautilus and aquanaut pieces listed on the patek site, 7968/300r is the most difficult one to get.

[dauster]

only a guess but I assume a lot of the ADs world wide get none and then ADs in Singapore, maison in Shanghai and places like Geary's in BH where Mark Wahlberg shops get multiple.Im sure Salons also get a few a year.