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Old 23 November 2017, 08:22 PM   #1
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Design logic of the maxi case lugs

Hi all,

I am wondering about the design logic (i.e. proportionality) of the wide lugs of the present-day Sub (116610).

When you look at the Sub, if you were to place the watch flat on a sheet of paper, put the tip of your pencil at the edge of the case close to the 9 o'clock marker, and then trace along the edge of the case progressing towards the lug, then continue that line on it's trajectory, would it eventually meet the bracelet?

If so, where? (Perhaps at the clasp?)

If not, would the line parallel the taper of the bracelet? (i.e. Is there a mathematical relationship between the proportionality/taper of the case and bracelet?)

Any ideas or opinions very welcome.

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Old 23 November 2017, 10:29 PM   #2
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Hi all,

I am wondering about the design logic (i.e. proportionality) of the wide lugs of the present-day Sub (116610).

When you look at the Sub, if you were to place the watch flat on a sheet of paper, put the tip of your pencil at the edge of the case close to the 9 o'clock marker, and then trace along the edge of the case progressing towards the lug, then continue that line on it's trajectory, would it eventually meet the bracelet?

If so, where? (Perhaps at the clasp?)

If not, would the line parallel the taper of the bracelet? (i.e. Is there a mathematical relationship between the proportionality/taper of the case and bracelet?)

Any ideas or opinions very welcome.

Thanks,
David
Appx 2.5 links along the bracelet

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Old 23 November 2017, 10:31 PM   #3
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Appx 2.5 links along the bracelet

Quick pic :
Nicely done Scott

Now do the DSSD
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Old 23 November 2017, 10:36 PM   #4
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Nicely done Scott

Now do the DSSD
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Old 23 November 2017, 10:39 PM   #5
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Design logic of the maxi case lugs

Maybe thats why its called maxi case lug, there is a imaginary connection from the case to the bracelet, paralax effect..?
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Old 23 November 2017, 10:58 PM   #6
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Its not massively scientific but here's all three.

Despite the wider case, arguably the DSSD is still better proportioned than the Sub's maxi case.
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Old 23 November 2017, 11:18 PM   #7
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Like this
Nicely done

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Old 24 November 2017, 12:09 AM   #8
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Cool illustration.
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Old 24 November 2017, 12:34 AM   #9
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Its not massively scientific but here's all three.

Despite the wider case, arguably the DSSD is still better proportioned than the Sub's maxi case.
great pic.
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Old 24 November 2017, 01:04 AM   #10
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SD43 clearly is the prettiest of the bunch in terms of proportions, but there’s just that thing about the dial saying “Submariner”
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Old 24 November 2017, 02:07 AM   #11
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I have no idea...I just like to put my watches on and enjoy wearing them.
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Old 24 November 2017, 02:28 AM   #12
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I have no idea...I just like to put my watches on and enjoy wearing them.
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Old 24 November 2017, 05:07 AM   #13
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I’m not sure, but I hope the recent DD40, DJ41, Exp I, SD, etc. are an indication that they’ve axed the designers from last decade.
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Old 24 November 2017, 08:23 AM   #14
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SD43 clearly is the prettiest of the bunch in terms of proportions, but there’s just that thing about the dial saying “Submariner”
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Old 24 November 2017, 08:33 AM   #15
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The maxi case brings the submariner/seadweller into the 21st century
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Old 24 November 2017, 08:45 AM   #16
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I know there have been plenty of complaints about the beefiness of the Maxi cases.it makes me wonder if Rolex will down size the cases the next time they update the Sub/GMT models like they did when they went from the DDII to DD40 and from the DJII to DJ41.
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Old 24 November 2017, 08:47 AM   #17
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The maxi case brings the submariner/seadweller into the 21st century
Considering that mechanical dive watches essentially became anachronisms in the 21st century, then I guess that makes sense.
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Old 24 November 2017, 09:06 AM   #18
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Now they've made the SD43 with wider lugs and smoother taper, shame they didn't on the Subc or DSSD.
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Old 24 November 2017, 11:00 AM   #19
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take a look at the black bay or pelagos case. its incredibly better proportionally and much more elegant.
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Old 24 November 2017, 11:42 AM   #20
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take a look at the black bay or pelagos case. its incredibly better proportionally and much more elegant.
But could be slimmer, wears much thicker than a subc even if the numbers are similar.
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Old 24 November 2017, 11:47 AM   #21
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i like the maxi case.
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Old 24 November 2017, 11:49 AM   #22
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But could be slimmer, wears much thicker than a subc even if the numbers are similar.
i agree. compare it to a sea dweller. at least for the pelagos.

i just think the thickness isnt a big deal. its quite interesting that thicknes is a complaint when heaviness of pm is lauded. interestibg dynamic.

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Old 24 November 2017, 02:19 PM   #23
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Design logic: these watches are built like tanks and will last forever, so future-proof the lugs from over-polishing!


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Old 24 November 2017, 03:18 PM   #24
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Stress about minutiae much?

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Old 25 November 2017, 05:11 PM   #25
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Design logic: these watches are built like tanks and will last forever, so future-proof the lugs from over-polishing!


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I wondered the same: make the lugs so thick that they can be polished every five years for the next 200....!
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Old 25 November 2017, 07:30 PM   #26
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Rolex does everything for a reason that’s the Rolex way. They update models to make them stronger and more durable. They don’t do for us the collectors or wis. We like things the public doesn’t notice or care about. Rolex can you bring back tapered lugs that’s all we need to be happy but it won’t happen due to the reasons above
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I wondered the same: make the lugs so thick that they can be polished every five years for the next 200....!
Yet folks still crap a brick when a lug gets scratched, because the current Sub is basically jewellery.
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Old 25 November 2017, 10:22 PM   #28
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Yet folks still crap a brick when a lug gets scratched, because the current Sub is basically jewellery.
I don't consider my sub jewelry at all. The only difference between 5 and 6 digit reference is a ceramic bezel. So that one fact makes it jewelry? Yea there is other differences but the only bling factor is ceramic.
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Old 25 November 2017, 10:42 PM   #29
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Now they've made the SD43 with wider lugs and smoother taper, shame they didn't on the Subc or DSSD.
The DSSD will most likely be discontinued in the near future now that the Sea Dweller is 43mm.

I cant see the DSSD being around much longer and IF it stays Rolex will make w blue bezel, blue dial to completely differentiate it from the Seadweller 43mm.

I wouldent be shocked if post Basel 18 or 19 there are only 2 Rolex dive watches. The Sub and SD43.

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The DSSD will most likely be discontinued in the near future now that the Sea Dweller is 43mm.

I cant see the DSSD being around much longer and IF it stays Rolex will make w blue bezel, blue dial to completely differentiate it from the Seadweller 43mm.

I wouldent be shocked if post Basel 18 or 19 there are only 2 Rolex dive watches. The Sub and SD43.

Certainly possible. I like the wider lugs of the subc as it wears more like a 41/2mm which is a nice size on me, but the wider bracelet on the SD43 flows better.
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