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Syed117 · 15 May 2018, 03:52 AM

The guy who sits next to me at work knows I have a few nice watches. He usually notices because my watches are always facing him. I've handed over my Rolex and Omega when he's asked about them.

He asked if I got a new watch and I simply replied "It's a Seiko"

Conversation stopped right there

Picture from last week.

the_natural · 15 May 2018, 03:57 AM

Love it!

Paul_I · 15 May 2018, 04:01 AM

I respect GS quite a bit, but I honestly don't understand the love of having an expensive product confused with a cheap product. Very few people notice what I'm wearing regardless, so I think it's a moot point. Do like that watch quite a bit.

Syed117 · 15 May 2018, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul_I

I respect GS quite a bit, but I honestly don't understand the love of having an expensive product confused with a cheap product. Very few people notice what I'm wearing regardless, so I think it's a moot point. Do like that watch quite a bit.

It's confusing for those who don't know, which for me is a plus.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Omega and my Rolex, but the vast majority of people who wear those brands are wearing them because of the name and nothing more. When I look down at my wrist and see this Grand Seiko, I know exactly what I'm looking at. That's more than enough for me.

It's the same reason why I would rather spend money on shoes from Crockett and Jones rather than Ferragamo in the same price range.

Bobby T · 15 May 2018, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

The guy who sits next to me at work knows I have a few nice watches. He usually notices because my watches are always facing him. I've handed over my Rolex and Omega when he's asked about them.

He asked if I got a new watch and I simply replied "It's a Seiko"

Conversation stopped right there

Picture from last week.

So you're glad the guy thought you had a cheap, undesirable watch??

I'm not sure what kind of pleasure that would give anyone. I certainly understand people who want to wear understated luxury items, no issues there but the perception, among most, is that Seiko makes a cheap watch. Now, we here on TRF and other sites, know differently but we're just talking about general perception among the masses

Syed117 · 15 May 2018, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby T

So you're glad the guy thought you had a cheap, undesirable watch??

The point was that it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I'm not so fragile that someone thinking my watch is cheap or undesirable would deter me.

I'm wearing it for myself. The same reason I wear a Rolex or a $14 Casio.

denmanproject · 15 May 2018, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby T

So you're glad the guy thought you had a cheap, undesirable watch??

subtona · 15 May 2018, 08:05 AM

nice watch!

pickettt · 15 May 2018, 08:21 AM

I got the point without explanation. Some of us don't need to lie to ourselves about why we have what we have.

pickettt · 15 May 2018, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by denmanproject

cop414 · 15 May 2018, 09:31 AM

Love that watch, nothing wrong with flying under the radar.

Old Expat Beast · 15 May 2018, 10:22 AM

Keeping the brand snobs at arm's length - Another good reason to get a Seiko (Grand or otherwise)

Gharddog03 · 15 May 2018, 11:24 AM

All good!! Awesome piece!!!

brandrea · 15 May 2018, 11:26 AM

That’s a beauty. There’s no accounting of good taste

KBM · 15 May 2018, 12:30 PM

That dial is amazing.

Maxy · 15 May 2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

I've handed over my Rolex and Omega when he's asked about them.
He asked if I got a new watch and I simply replied "It's a Seiko"
Conversation stopped right there

When you have shown your Rolex and Omega to this guy, why not say this is higher/luxury brand of Seiko known as Grand Seiko. Maybe he would get educated and know about the brand. What's the point to not mention Grand Seiko when you do about other luxury brands?

pickettt · 15 May 2018, 12:58 PM

Finally got mine from Japan last week. 5 days, not a second lost or gained. BTW, I think GS does a horrible job depicting their watches in catalogs and their website. The pictures sell these watches way short.
IMG_3403.jpg

asiparks · 15 May 2018, 02:38 PM

Gorgeous watch !

I mean, shame on you obviously, for buying a watch because of it's outstanding craftsmanship, truly superlative timekeeping and understated, yet wonderfully detailed and layered looks. What were you thinking ??

Porsche · 15 May 2018, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pickettt

Finally got mine from Japan last week. 5 days, not a second lost or gained. BTW, I think GS does a horrible job depicting their watches in catalogs and their website. The pictures sell these watches way short.

Love that parchment dial...

Frogman · 15 May 2018, 09:15 PM

One buys a GS to impress themselves, not others.

1William · 15 May 2018, 09:52 PM

When I was younger and less educated about watches I focused on brand names and many times I would share an opinion based on my limited knowledge. The longer I have been in the watch game the more I have learned and the less I make judgements. The Grand Seiko is a great watch and I will own one at some point. I equate it to the statement that those who know, know, those that don't, don't. A few years ago I bought a Range Rover HSE. I did the research and knew what I was getting into but did it anyway. I loved the look and it got a lot of positive comments but it was the worst vehicle I have ever owned. Now I own a Lexus LX570 and it is the best vehicle I have ever owned, to date. If you know what the Lexus is and can do, you know. If not, it is just another large SUV. Same with Grand Seiko, if you know, you are impressed.

Syed117 · 15 May 2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxy

When you have shown your Rolex and Omega to this guy, why not say this is higher/luxury brand of Seiko known as Grand Seiko. Maybe he would get educated and know about the brand. What's the point to not mention Grand Seiko when you do about other luxury brands?

Like most people, he's not really a watch guy. He just doesn't care. I've handed him my Rolex and Omega because those are names he knows as expensive watch brands. He can afford a nice watch, but they don't interest him.

Getting into the history of Grand Seiko with someone who doesn't care at all seems pointless.

benlee · 15 May 2018, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogman

One buys a GS to impress themselves, not others.

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Originally Posted by Syed117

The point was that it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I'm not so fragile that someone thinking my watch is cheap or undesirable would deter me.

I'm wearing it for myself. The same reason I wear a Rolex or a $14 Casio.

Well said.

too many people are wearing the brand instead of wearing the watch. Ends up the watch wears them.

RamyAshour · 15 May 2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogman

One buys a GS to impress themselves, not others.

Well said

Cru Jones · 15 May 2018, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by denmanproject

sluu83 · 16 May 2018, 01:37 AM

Snowflake dial is stunning��

GB-man · 16 May 2018, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syed117

The point was that it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I'm not so fragile that someone thinking my watch is cheap or undesirable would deter me.

I'm wearing it for myself. The same reason I wear a Rolex or a $14 Casio.

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Originally Posted by cop414

Love that watch, nothing wrong with flying under the radar.

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Keeping the brand snobs at arm's length - Another good reason to get a Seiko (Grand or otherwise)

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Originally Posted by brandrea

That’s a beauty. There’s no accounting of good taste

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Originally Posted by Frogman

One buys a GS to impress themselves, not others.

I had no problem explaining GS to my watch buddy who is very green. I said Seiko as a brand makes watches from 10 dollars to several hundred thousand dollars. GS is a line that offers the finishing one would expect on a 50k watch for 5k.

Jack T · 16 May 2018, 09:28 AM

I’m just getting acquainted with the GS, a very good reputation among those in the know. I tried on a few last week at a local AD, surprised they had three or four in stock. Hi Beat vs Spring Drive, still debating; stainless vs titanium, still debating. One thing is clear, very nicely finished cases, beautiful movements, understated appearance.

Hope you enjoy yours !!

eyount · 16 May 2018, 07:46 PM

I've enjoyed several GS quartz models, my nephew loves the one I gave him. He just adores it. But I think GS now need to raise their game, because they can seem a touch complacent.
This Longines VHP cost a third as much; yet it is even more accurate...five seconds a year...with a perpetual calendar included. And a five-year battery life. Not quite as nicely finished but in some ways, a better watch, to me anyway.
So come on GS. We need a replacement for the f9 module, and a proper perpetual calender feature, with longer battery life. You charge enough after all.

DCheeta · 18 May 2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

The point was that it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. I'm not so fragile that someone thinking my watch is cheap or undesirable would deter me.

I'm wearing it for myself. The same reason I wear a Rolex or a $14 Casio.

Very well said... now lets see that Casio!

15 May 2018, 03:52 AM	#1
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	The Best Thing About Grand Seiko The guy who sits next to me at work knows I have a few nice watches. He usually notices because my watches are always facing him. I've handed over my Rolex and Omega when he's asked about them. He asked if I got a new watch and I simply replied "It's a Seiko" Conversation stopped right there Picture from last week. __________________ Rolex Datejust 41 126334 \| Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite \| Cartier Santos Large \| Tudor Black Bay 58

15 May 2018, 04:01 AM	#3
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	I respect GS quite a bit, but I honestly don't understand the love of having an expensive product confused with a cheap product. Very few people notice what I'm wearing regardless, so I think it's a moot point. Do like that watch quite a bit. __________________

15 May 2018, 08:05 AM	#8
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	nice watch! __________________

15 May 2018, 09:31 AM	#11
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 71,824	Love that watch, nothing wrong with flying under the radar. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

15 May 2018, 10:22 AM	#12
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,355	Keeping the brand snobs at arm's length - Another good reason to get a Seiko (Grand or otherwise) __________________ _______________________

15 May 2018, 03:57 AM	#2
the_natural "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Edward Location: USA Posts: 857	Love it!

15 May 2018, 08:21 AM	#9
pickettt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Watch: Shiny One Posts: 5,364	I got the point without explanation. Some of us don't need to lie to ourselves about why we have what we have.

15 May 2018, 11:24 AM	#13
Gharddog03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Genaro Location: Fresno Ca. Watch: R O L E X Posts: 4,466	All good!! Awesome piece!!!

15 May 2018, 11:26 AM	#14
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,576	That’s a beauty. There’s no accounting of good taste

15 May 2018, 12:30 PM	#15
KBM 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,386	That dial is amazing.

15 May 2018, 12:58 PM	#17
pickettt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Watch: Shiny One Posts: 5,364	Finally got mine from Japan last week. 5 days, not a second lost or gained. BTW, I think GS does a horrible job depicting their watches in catalogs and their website. The pictures sell these watches way short. IMG_3403.jpg

15 May 2018, 02:38 PM	#18
asiparks "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, OR Watch: ing the Detectives Posts: 1,884	Gorgeous watch ! I mean, shame on you obviously, for buying a watch because of it's outstanding craftsmanship, truly superlative timekeeping and understated, yet wonderfully detailed and layered looks. What were you thinking ??

15 May 2018, 09:15 PM	#20
Frogman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 194	One buys a GS to impress themselves, not others.

15 May 2018, 09:52 PM	#21
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,652	When I was younger and less educated about watches I focused on brand names and many times I would share an opinion based on my limited knowledge. The longer I have been in the watch game the more I have learned and the less I make judgements. The Grand Seiko is a great watch and I will own one at some point. I equate it to the statement that those who know, know, those that don't, don't. A few years ago I bought a Range Rover HSE. I did the research and knew what I was getting into but did it anyway. I loved the look and it got a lot of positive comments but it was the worst vehicle I have ever owned. Now I own a Lexus LX570 and it is the best vehicle I have ever owned, to date. If you know what the Lexus is and can do, you know. If not, it is just another large SUV. Same with Grand Seiko, if you know, you are impressed.

16 May 2018, 01:37 AM	#26
sluu83 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Sydney Posts: 19	Snowflake dial is stunning��

16 May 2018, 09:28 AM	#28
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,623	I’m just getting acquainted with the GS, a very good reputation among those in the know. I tried on a few last week at a local AD, surprised they had three or four in stock. Hi Beat vs Spring Drive, still debating; stainless vs titanium, still debating. One thing is clear, very nicely finished cases, beautiful movements, understated appearance. Hope you enjoy yours !! __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

16 May 2018, 07:46 PM	#29
eyount "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: James Location: Iowa,Des Moines Watch: apple Posts: 4	I've enjoyed several GS quartz models, my nephew loves the one I gave him. He just adores it. But I think GS now need to raise their game, because they can seem a touch complacent. This Longines VHP cost a third as much; yet it is even more accurate...five seconds a year...with a perpetual calendar included. And a five-year battery life. Not quite as nicely finished but in some ways, a better watch, to me anyway. So come on GS. We need a replacement for the f9 module, and a proper perpetual calender feature, with longer battery life. You charge enough after all.

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