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bradleyt09 · 7 March 2018, 08:52 AM

I have been searching for a nice, original 5513 and recently found this one for sale. I'd appreciate any feedback regarding authenticity and originality of this watch. It is being sold with two inserts. The seller believes the darker insert is original but both the darker one and ghost insert look good to me. Can you tell me if either or both inserts are correct for this watch? I know the bracelet is a later bracelet, but believe the rest is original. Feedback from the forum will be much appreciated.

https://imgur.com/a/rUKPj

bradleyt09 · 8 March 2018, 12:09 AM

Anyone?

schaumburgla · 8 March 2018, 12:44 AM

Sapphire model 14060 with the metal encircled pearl & also there is a slight gap between the bezel & that insert which would make sense for this insert to be a hair small.
The spare insert in the plastic appears to be the period correct one but Im not 100% sure as it could be from a Tudor Sub.

Justin

bradleyt09 · 8 March 2018, 02:02 AM

Good eye Justin, thanks for that.

JohnBaker3 · 8 March 2018, 02:56 AM

Serial number suggests early 1970 vintage; if so, the crown is not original to the watch. It should be a Twin Lock (no dots).

linesiders · 8 March 2018, 04:39 AM

The loose insert is a long 5 from late 50s to 1968 and the watch (legit) is from roughly 1969 so possible original insert. The insert on the watch is not correct from when it was made. I am not expert enough on the dial to know if that is the appropriate dial for 69 just after end of Meter's First but follow this post and site for accurate info: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=344403

Inside of caseback would have stamping to (help) indicate when it was made.

7 March 2018, 08:52 AM	#1
bradleyt09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: florida Posts: 238	Rolex 5513 help needed to authenticate I have been searching for a nice, original 5513 and recently found this one for sale. I'd appreciate any feedback regarding authenticity and originality of this watch. It is being sold with two inserts. The seller believes the darker insert is original but both the darker one and ghost insert look good to me. Can you tell me if either or both inserts are correct for this watch? I know the bracelet is a later bracelet, but believe the rest is original. Feedback from the forum will be much appreciated. https://imgur.com/a/rUKPj

8 March 2018, 12:44 AM	#3
schaumburgla 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Justin S. Location: Southeastern U.S. Watch: 5513 Sub Posts: 761	The faded insert appears to be a later insert from a Sapphire model 14060 with the metal encircled pearl & also there is a slight gap between the bezel & that insert which would make sense for this insert to be a hair small. The spare insert in the plastic appears to be the period correct one but Im not 100% sure as it could be from a Tudor Sub. Justin

8 March 2018, 02:56 AM	#5
JohnBaker3 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: John Baker III Location: Spring,Texas Watch: 1971 Red Sub Posts: 2,221	Serial number suggests early 1970 vintage; if so, the crown is not original to the watch. It should be a Twin Lock (no dots). __________________ As I've grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing off everyone is a piece of cake.

8 March 2018, 04:39 AM	#6
linesiders 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,421	The loose insert is a long 5 from late 50s to 1968 and the watch (legit) is from roughly 1969 so possible original insert. The insert on the watch is not correct from when it was made. I am not expert enough on the dial to know if that is the appropriate dial for 69 just after end of Meter's First but follow this post and site for accurate info: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=344403 Inside of caseback would have stamping to (help) indicate when it was made. __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

8 March 2018, 12:09 AM	#2
bradleyt09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: florida Posts: 238	Anyone?

8 March 2018, 02:02 AM	#4
bradleyt09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: florida Posts: 238	Good eye Justin, thanks for that.

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