Banned from my AD

[AK797]

If they caught you flipping they can do what they like, you are using the grey market too so you can't claim any purity. You do the watch crime, you do the time.

[Highlatitude]

Rolex need to develop a new clasp for the bracelets that has a key lock on it. Only Authorised Dealers have the master key and at the point of purchase the watch (first has it’s stickers removed - all except for one) is sized and then locked to the buyers wrist.

The AD then gets to decide if or when the buyer has spent enough with them and can have the watch removed. The buyers will fall over themselves sucking up to the AD for the privilege and the AD will continue selling hot models out the backdoor of the AD to his grey dealer friends whilst everyone maintains the pretence that they are all trying to control the problem.

[jrs146]

Man what a terrible situation. It’s sad that the AD’s have this much power. I’m not in favor of flipping but I think after reasonable time period it’s not a flip in any way. Sorry this happened!

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Arcticsub

This makes sense. Rolex really hates the grey market I guess.

Ask yourself this question: if Richemont is buying back stock to destroy unsold inventory, would it really be that outlandish for rolex to try and find out which AD is selling to flippers?

Actually, few things make much sense these days.

[DonRickles]

Not adding up...? Why did you lie and say it wasn't listed. You didn't want them to know for some reason. I think you knew you got "caught" and pulled it off...And, you were going to post this, to vent yourself in any case.


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[P1nky_Up]

I’m fearful of this happening. I specifically asked my AD point blank about selling one of my watches. I told them I may decide to sell it and have heard about the backlash it could cause and wanted their input to not burn any bridges with them or Rolex. I truly don’t think you were in the wrong. It’s not like you bought it solely to flip it, something in life came up and you had a change of heart and then you didn’t even sell it. That’s just dumb to be banned. Sorry for your bad luck :/

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by AK797

If they caught you flipping they can do what they like, you are using the grey market too so you can't claim any purity. You do the watch crime, you do the time.

Crime?

[Hibbyx]

I'm sure ADs are selling watches to grays out the back door, it's bad the way Rolex can treat past good customers and think we won't fotget about it

[Brian Page]

Quite a story, sorry for this.

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[joli160]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree more fantasy Island posts.

If anybody is down to earth ... Your comments always make me smile, thanks

[sea206]

Why would AD cares? They charged you the money and you paid the cost and it's yours. As far as I can tell you can melt it poop on it, making videos of whatever the hell you want with it. Not to mention you have your right to sell whenever the hell you want.
F* 'em and give your business elsewhere.

[mykii]

Wow that is insane.

What did you have on the ebay pictures? Was the card in-sight, or serial number in-sight?

Seems a bit much... honestly. Even if you wanted to sell your watch, you should have the right to do that. To me, flipping needs to have an established "pattern" to land a ban.

[MrMercedes]

I would give a shit….
Go Grey....it´s only Money....

[blada4life]

How long did you wait before listing the Pepsi after buying it? At least 6 months? I just find this ridiculous. Unless you did it within a month I don’t get where they get off. At what point can you sell your f-ing watch, before they let you?! It’s ridiculous.


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[Wahlberg]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

AD manager has told me he has spent time searching pics

What a shitty job, doesn't he have more important things to do?

[Loose_head-prop]

Rolex per se don't have time for this. ADs, however, do since they have nothing in their shops to sell. Probably spend most of their working days trawling ebay looking for newish pieces from the UK. Then ask you for a few additional pics so that they can verify the case # and you are soon busted as a flipper. UK chains sell all SS pieces on instruction from head office and not by the shop managers 'working through' imaginary lists. They will be cross that it's been flipped by someone other than themselves... through their own greys.

[Tools]

Unlikely that Rolex would waste time looking through ads about people selling their personal watches. Rolex got their money when it was delivered to the Dealer, and such an effort would take massive time and resources for zero return for them.

Selling your watch is not the Grey Market.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by sea206

Why would AD cares? They charged you the money and you paid the cost and it's yours. As far as I can tell you can melt it poop on it, making videos of whatever the hell you want with it. Not to mention you have your right to sell whenever the hell you want.
F* 'em and give your business somewhere.

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Because Rolex doesn’t like it. There’s enough anecdotal evidence of this in the U.K. at least - I reckon a fair chunk of regular U.K. members on here have heard of this happening - and I seem to recall a screen grab of a letter from Rolex U.K. advising AD’s about trying to curb flipping.

I realise some people will be sceptical, but if you accept that, the AD’s are just protecting their agency and their business. If Rolex didn’t care, then why would AD’s?

Now you might well ask why Rolex cares...

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

What a shitty job, doesn't he have more important things to do?

Like selling phantom Rolex watches?

[Uggi]

Originally Posted by Highlatitude

Rolex need to develop a new clasp for the bracelets that has a key lock on it. Only Authorised Dealers have the master key and at the point of purchase the watch (first has it’s stickers removed - all except for one) is sized and then locked to the buyers wrist.

This made me "LOL". Great post. You're being facetious but it will probably become the norm soon.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Jmbarrack

You must have posted the card with serial number and AD name listed?

....standing next to it, with today’s newspaper.

[Uggi]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

AD manager has told me he has spent time searching pics on grey listings looking for serial numbers on the rehaut.

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

What a shitty job, doesn't he have more important things to do?

No - his cases are probably as bare as a baby's @rse.

[42itus]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

What a shitty job, doesn't he have more important things to do?

Like telling all the walk in customers that there are no stainless steel models available?

[MacDaddyOC]

I'm sorry that does suck. We've heard rumors of this, but you seem to be the first, first-hand experience I've heard of.

I must admit though, I do appreciate that Rolex is trying to crack down on flippers. I don't think the one off flippers are really the issue...it would seem to me the dealers knowingly selling to grey's are the bigger issue. I'm guessing that is one of the reasons they're reducing the ADs nationwide.

[dukie748]

The World of Rolex gets crazier every day.

Perhaps if the AD's had something to sell they wouldn't have the time to trawl online sales, it's also ironic that Rolex is attempting to identify 'flippers' when the Grays hold the large majority of their desirable pieces. Wonder where they got them?

[wholecz]

Originally Posted by 42itus

Like telling all the walk in customers that there are no stainless steel models available?

I do you a better one, like they said "Have you ever shopped with us before?"

[Keanuchan]

is it just in the UK or worldwide?

[crazycarlitos]

What doesn’t make sense is why would Rolex ban u from only one AD?

More likely someone from the AD found ur ad on-line and reported to the owners... who were not happy that they are not getting their cut from what they perceive as a “flip” Lol

[1Zach1]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

Because Rolex doesn’t like it. There’s enough anecdotal evidence of this in the U.K. at least - I reckon a fair chunk of regular U.K. members on here have heard of this happening - and I seem to recall a screen grab of a letter from Rolex U.K. advising AD’s about trying to curb flipping.

I realise some people will be sceptical, but if you accept that, the AD’s are just protecting their agency and their business. If Rolex didn’t care, then why would AD’s?

Now you might well ask why Rolex cares...



Like selling phantom Rolex watches?

IF Rolex cares, they care far more about their regional sellers and ADs selling watches to the grey market by the truckload, than random people selling their watches on the internet.

Now if Rolex can trace a watch back to a specific AD (can they?), and those ADs aren't happy about Rolex potentially finding out about their side grey business, I can see why an AD would want to smack the hand of some random person to "prove" they care.

[Frank Mucus]

That's a wild story. I doubt a company like Rolex has the time to have staff scour the internets in search of people reselling their products. Maybe it's your AD just being an ass and not wanting to sell you that Daytona after taking all your money and selling it to someone else.

If your AD is the one searching everywhere to find out if one of the watches they sold is being resold then they have too much time on their hands. And so what if you decide to resell it. It's your possession now.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Tools

Unlikely that Rolex would waste time looking through ads about people selling their personal watches. Rolex got their money when it was delivered to the Dealer, and such an effort would take massive time and resources for zero return for them.

Selling your watch is not the Grey Market.

Exactly

And waiting six years for them to not deliver a watch makes me wonder why you could possibly upset? Unless of course this entire thread is . . .