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DoctorSpazz · 16 February 2020, 02:17 AM

Is it the symmetry of the no date or the polarizing bubble that drives you to the no date version.

Or is the quintessential element of a tool watch the need for a date.

What’s your reasoning for model number in your watch box ?

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Tools · 16 February 2020, 02:59 AM

I'll start off with a controversial statement.

There is a "Sub Date", it is a respectable and popular model that everybody can be happy to have in their watch box.

There is no such model as a "No Date"

Is that a watch that always spends Friday and Saturday night at home, alone?

Geckobros · 16 February 2020, 03:02 AM

I prefer the Submariner. The freedom of not setting the date and the aesthetics of the dial aren't interrupted.

RHIII · 16 February 2020, 03:03 AM

The Submariner is -and has always been my preference. The clean symmetry of the dial has always made it for me.

Plenty of other options for date models.

(For those who can’t remember the date...I would think that caring about the time would be secondary....

)

sickened1 · 16 February 2020, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geckobros

I prefer the Submariner. The freedom of not setting the date and the aesthetics of the dial aren't interrupted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHIII

The Submariner is -and has always been my preference. The clean symmetry of the dial has always made it for me.

Plenty of other options for date models.

+1 Completely agree with both.

Dr. Robert · 16 February 2020, 03:06 AM

I have both.....a 14060 & a 16610. There’s beauty in both!

FTX I · 16 February 2020, 03:09 AM

I like both but I wear the ones without date much more. No date is just a nickname btw. Cheers.

LandWatch · 16 February 2020, 03:10 AM

Submariner, for the symmetry of the dial. And, I have no need for the date and am not fond of the magnifier. The submariner has the cleanest, no-nonsense aesthetic.

Rashid.bk · 16 February 2020, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sickened1

+1 Completely agree with both.

I agree with the three of you.
But they both are great watches. I’d be equally happy with either.

tbk · 16 February 2020, 03:11 AM

I've always preferred the Sub Date. I really like the cyclops, it's so iconic. It adds some visual interest to the watch, and I use the date all the time.

Astro_Train · 16 February 2020, 03:12 AM

this is an overbeaten subject and very subjective but I will say this.

I always prefer a date variant as I actually use it.. and looks better to me.. so when I purchased mine, it was a no brainer.

in retrospect..

the no date wears very different. A friend has a no date and we compared on how much different they look and wear. It is the only watch I can think where such a small portion changes the watch in such a large way.

AJMarcus · 16 February 2020, 03:13 AM

The Submariner. It’s the true icon. The date just gets in the way. Dates are for calendars. If you need a watch to remind you of the date you got other problems.

scarlet knight · 16 February 2020, 03:18 AM

I own the Sub and the Bluesy (which has the date). I recently wore the Sub exclusively on a one week vacation and frankly the lack of a date for a week annoyed me. At home, I would just rotate to another watch.

It’s occurred to me to trade my Sub for a Sub Date, but that seems like a hassle since I have several Rolexes with the date.

illiguy · 16 February 2020, 03:20 AM

Comes down to individual preference. I own both. For my first, I’d recommend the Submariner Date. Should you be fortunate enough to go for a second, I’d then get the Submariner.

brandrea · 16 February 2020, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHIII

The Submariner is -and has always been my preference. The clean symmetry of the dial has always made it for me.

Plenty of other options for date models.

(For those who can’t remember the date...I would think that caring about the time would be secondary....

)

This ^^^

A thread without pictures ...

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danyvw · 16 February 2020, 03:33 AM

Sub Date all day every day. The cyclops is a signature feature of any Rolex and having the date is a plus for me.

Art 1 · 16 February 2020, 03:35 AM

Sub. I see too many sub dates for me to want one.

DoctorSpazz · 16 February 2020, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astro_Train

this is an overbeaten subject and very subjective but I will say this.

I always prefer a date variant as I actually use it.. and looks better to me.. so when I purchased mine, it was a no brainer.

in retrospect..

the no date wears very different. A friend has a no date and we compared on how much different they look and wear. It is the only watch I can think where such a small portion changes the watch in such a large way.

Can you elaborate on this ?

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Rori · 16 February 2020, 03:45 AM

For me, the Date is a must have complication on a watch, followed by a GMT hand.
When it comes to Rolex specifically, the cyclops is what makes a Rolex Rolex, again this is my humble opinion.

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Mr. Superlative · 16 February 2020, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlandWatch

Submariner, for the symmetry of the dial. And, I have no need for the date and am not fond of the magnifier. The submariner has the cleanest, no-nonsense aesthetic.

I echo this.

coaxial · 16 February 2020, 03:52 AM

I wear both; Prefer the clean aesthetics of a Submariner vs the cluttered dial of a Submariner Date.

Blansky · 16 February 2020, 03:59 AM

If I owned a Sub no date I'd wear it just because if it can't get a date I'd feel sorry for it and try to get it out and about as much as possible. Mainly because it is the epitome of perfection and deserves better.

I don't like the look of the cyclops and wouldn't own a Rolex with it.

My only Rolex is a 16600 SD.

Claven2 · 16 February 2020, 03:59 AM

For me personally, I constantly use the date feature as I sign a lot of legal documents and need accurate dates next to signatures. So it's a no contest for practical reasons.

Seaswirl · 16 February 2020, 04:10 AM

Date for me. Useful complication on a three hander. Don’t like it on a chronograph though.

Bluside · 16 February 2020, 04:27 AM

Sold my Sub Date recently and bought a ND. It's simple to just grab and go.

FQ01 · 16 February 2020, 04:48 AM

Submariner: a perfect well balanced dial.

Also if you have other watches in rotation, setting up the date every time you pick it up is a bit annoying. No date watches are easy: grab, quickly set time and you're good to go!

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fskywalker · 16 February 2020, 04:51 AM

Submariner date is the winner for me!

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stratguy · 16 February 2020, 04:59 AM

Sub. So clean and beautiful. If I could only have one watch for the rest of my days - 114060.

vgs · 16 February 2020, 04:59 AM

114060 is perfect!!

I kinda like date more on 5 digit

mg Barcelona · 16 February 2020, 05:15 AM

this will never ever be resolved. but for. the record I have a 5 digit (no. date) but I would equally like tif it had the date. It never ends.

16 February 2020, 02:17 AM	#1
DoctorSpazz "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 218	Sub Date vs No Date. What’s your preference and why ? Is it the symmetry of the no date or the polarizing bubble that drives you to the no date version. Or is the quintessential element of a tool watch the need for a date. What’s your reasoning for model number in your watch box ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

16 February 2020, 02:59 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,050	I'll start off with a controversial statement. There is a "Sub Date", it is a respectable and popular model that everybody can be happy to have in their watch box. There is no such model as a "No Date" Is that a watch that always spends Friday and Saturday night at home, alone? __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

16 February 2020, 03:06 AM	#6
Dr. Robert 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 61,296	I have both.....a 14060 & a 16610. There’s beauty in both! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

16 February 2020, 03:45 AM	#19
Rori "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Middle East Watch: Rolex / Tudor Posts: 3,590	For me, the Date is a must have complication on a watch, followed by a GMT hand. When it comes to Rolex specifically, the cyclops is what makes a Rolex Rolex, again this is my humble opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Good watches are made to tell time but some brands are obsessed to tell it in the most beautiful way possible.

16 February 2020, 03:52 AM	#21
coaxial "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Naples, FL Watch: 5513, 116610LN Posts: 305	I wear both; Prefer the clean aesthetics of a Submariner vs the cluttered dial of a Submariner Date. __________________ Watches: Rolex: 116610LN; 5513; 18238; 214270; 16613\| JLC: 3161.

16 February 2020, 03:02 AM	#3
Geckobros "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Arrakis Posts: 873	I prefer the Submariner. The freedom of not setting the date and the aesthetics of the dial aren't interrupted.

16 February 2020, 03:03 AM	#4
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	The Submariner is -and has always been my preference. The clean symmetry of the dial has always made it for me. Plenty of other options for date models. (For those who can’t remember the date...I would think that caring about the time would be secondary.... )

16 February 2020, 03:09 AM	#7
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,652	I like both but I wear the ones without date much more. No date is just a nickname btw. Cheers.

16 February 2020, 03:10 AM	#8
LandWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: U.K. Posts: 708	Submariner, for the symmetry of the dial. And, I have no need for the date and am not fond of the magnifier. The submariner has the cleanest, no-nonsense aesthetic.

16 February 2020, 03:11 AM	#10
tbk "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 284	I've always preferred the Sub Date. I really like the cyclops, it's so iconic. It adds some visual interest to the watch, and I use the date all the time.

16 February 2020, 03:12 AM	#11
Astro_Train Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: USA Watch: 116610 Posts: 39	this is an overbeaten subject and very subjective but I will say this. I always prefer a date variant as I actually use it.. and looks better to me.. so when I purchased mine, it was a no brainer. in retrospect.. the no date wears very different. A friend has a no date and we compared on how much different they look and wear. It is the only watch I can think where such a small portion changes the watch in such a large way.

16 February 2020, 03:13 AM	#12
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,205	The Submariner. It’s the true icon. The date just gets in the way. Dates are for calendars. If you need a watch to remind you of the date you got other problems.

16 February 2020, 03:18 AM	#13
scarlet knight "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Watch: Good ones Posts: 8,146	I own the Sub and the Bluesy (which has the date). I recently wore the Sub exclusively on a one week vacation and frankly the lack of a date for a week annoyed me. At home, I would just rotate to another watch. It’s occurred to me to trade my Sub for a Sub Date, but that seems like a hassle since I have several Rolexes with the date.

16 February 2020, 03:20 AM	#14
illiguy 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UTC/GMT -5 Posts: 3,463	Comes down to individual preference. I own both. For my first, I’d recommend the Submariner Date. Should you be fortunate enough to go for a second, I’d then get the Submariner.

16 February 2020, 03:33 AM	#16
danyvw "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: USA Watch: Sub16610, DJ126331 Posts: 1,151	Sub Date all day every day. The cyclops is a signature feature of any Rolex and having the date is a plus for me.

16 February 2020, 03:35 AM	#17
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	Sub. I see too many sub dates for me to want one.

16 February 2020, 03:59 AM	#22
Blansky 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: swmnpoolsmovie* Posts: 9,096	If I owned a Sub no date I'd wear it just because if it can't get a date I'd feel sorry for it and try to get it out and about as much as possible. Mainly because it is the epitome of perfection and deserves better. I don't like the look of the cyclops and wouldn't own a Rolex with it. My only Rolex is a 16600 SD.

16 February 2020, 03:59 AM	#23
Claven2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: OTTAWA Posts: 374	For me personally, I constantly use the date feature as I sign a lot of legal documents and need accurate dates next to signatures. So it's a no contest for practical reasons.

16 February 2020, 04:10 AM	#24
Seaswirl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NYC Posts: 1,761	Date for me. Useful complication on a three hander. Don’t like it on a chronograph though.

16 February 2020, 04:27 AM	#25
Bluside 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Posts: 3,063	Sold my Sub Date recently and bought a ND. It's simple to just grab and go.

16 February 2020, 04:48 AM	#26
FQ01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Earth Posts: 122	Submariner: a perfect well balanced dial. Also if you have other watches in rotation, setting up the date every time you pick it up is a bit annoying. No date watches are easy: grab, quickly set time and you're good to go! Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

16 February 2020, 04:51 AM	#27
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 24,604	Submariner date is the winner for me! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 2230.50.00 Zenith 02.470.405 Henry Archer Eclipse 2FA security enabled

16 February 2020, 04:59 AM	#28
stratguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: USA Watch: Speedmaster Pro Posts: 670	Sub. So clean and beautiful. If I could only have one watch for the rest of my days - 114060.

16 February 2020, 04:59 AM	#29
vgs "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Ulm, Germany Watch: collection? Posts: 132	114060 is perfect!! I kinda like date more on 5 digit

16 February 2020, 05:15 AM	#30
mg Barcelona Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Barcelona Posts: 298	this will never ever be resolved. but for. the record I have a 5 digit (no. date) but I would equally like tif it had the date. It never ends.

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