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11 August 2017, 05:58 AM | #1 |
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Is my 1625 a Turnograph or a Thunderbird ?
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I have recentelly bought a Rolex 1625 (see pics). I I love it, but I wonder whether is a turnograph or a thunderbird ? I do not know how to call it. Which is the difference between them ? Are the same ? Thank you vey much indeed for your help |
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This might help. From .....
https://www.timepiecechronicle.com/f...x-turn-o-graph Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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Always super to see/hear about the underrated and unloved ToG.
It's not the Thunderbird, as that was 18ct yellow gold and the dial had an insignia. The watch in this post is a beautifiul blue/black stick dial Turn-o-Graph. Regards |
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4. The Turn-O-Graph was an official military watch In the late 1950s, the U.S. Air Force’s Thunderbird aerobatic squadron equipped their pilots with the Turn-O-Graph watches for navigational calculations. Rolex took full advantage of this opportunity and produced the “Thunderbird” Turn-O-Graph watches. These Thunderbird watches were crafted in 18k yellow gold with the Thunderbird insignia on the dial along with a date window and corresponding Cyclops lens. Add this to the list of military watches from Rolex. They also released an accompanying advertising campaign focused on the new relationship. Interestingly, Rolex began referring to all Turn-O-Graph watches in the American market as “Thunderbirds” to capitalize on the official military partnership. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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Thunderbird!
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As noted above: your the proud owner of a Thunderbird Turn-O-Graph DateJust Rolex watch.
Here's mine, welcome to the club! |
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12 August 2017, 12:24 AM | #12 |
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Read the ads
Interestingly, Rolex began referring to all Turn-O-Graph watches in the American market as “Thunderbirds” to capitalize on the official military partnership.
Rolex capitalized on this relationship and began referring to the Turn-O-Graph as the Thunderbird in North American advertising. |
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Its the type of Bezel which got the Thunderbird name much like we call the blue/red insert pepsi, a true Thunderbird would have the emblem on the dial and Jubilee bracelet.
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Is that the right end-link?
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So, just to clarify, as mant responses including mine maintain, emblem, emblem, emplem.
A ToG needs the Thunderbird emplem, to be called a Thunderbird. The OP has a lovely ToG, not a ToG Thunderbird, AS THE EMPLEM IS MISSING. Regards |
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In the alternative, like the Hulk, Smurfs, Pepsis etc. we see a Turn-O-graph and we think Thunderbird, it's the nickname we give these watches! |
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Shouldn't the bracelet end-links have a yellow gold center?
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tomchicago, if you look at the link provided on the 4th post (very informative and posted by Waterprooofpt) on this thread :
https://www.timepiecechronicle.com/f...x-turn-o-graph 7th pic in that link answers your question, re endlink :) Turn-o-Graph with the 'Thunderbird' logo is a Thunderbird - without it, it's just a DATEJUST (according to the inscription on the dial) A.K.A. a Turn-o-Graph. Think I've only ever seen 'Turn O Graph' inscribed on the dial of the 6 digit models (had one in white / SS chopped in after a month for an Exp II 16570) |
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The watch community has not named the particular watch a Thunderbird, Rolex did. They added a special logo to the dial to distinguish it from Turn-o-Graphs. So a Thunderbird ToG is specific to the Rolex literature. Any of the posters who kindly included the advert shot want to chime in. Regards |
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Thanks for the information.......
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Turn-O-Graph is not written on the watch, just as it does not have the Thunderbird emblem. So, what we have (I own a 1625 like thE OP) is a Datejust with a numbered rotating bezel.
As a owner of such, how does the name "Turn-O-Graph" get applied ?
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thanks bling. turn-o is a great watch...i hope Rollie brings it back justly.
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The TOG was the first Rolex with a rotating bezel in 1954 predating the more famous Submariner by less than a year. This is the original 6202.
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You have a TOG...and the TOGs were made for the US Military for the Thunderbirds and thus the nickname. A True Thunderbird would have emblem on them. So by technicality you have a TOG. Turn-o-Graphs are coming back.
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As it said in the article above; Rolex themselves started calling the TOG the Thunderbird. No it's not one worn by one of the original pilots with Thunderbird on the dial but it is understandable that it would be called a Thunderbird. |
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