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shay · 12 June 2011, 02:29 AM

hi

I have a dilemma ...
I'm debating between the purchase of AP's watch royal oak offshore Panda, and the Rolex Daytona ss.
On the one hand the AP watch really wanted nowI think it's watch really pretty impressive, especially with leather strap, but my fear that this is a fashionable watchand hus price a year or two of fall, as happened for example HUBOLT watches. Rolex Daytona on the other hand, this watch actually keeps his value second hand market price.
What do you recommend for me?
thank you

WatchTimes · 12 June 2011, 03:26 AM

I am not a big fan of either but of the two the Daytona would be
my purchase. I do not care for the piggyback movement on the ROO
and I think they have flooded their own market with limited editions.

I have had 2 Daytonas and sold them both, I have tried on to purchase
a few ROO's and never end up pulling the trigger, it just does not give
me that warm and tingly feeling when I get it on the wrist.

If I had to buy a Daytona it would be a RG, if I had to buy a ROO it would be
the RG Rubberclad.

But as I said if I had the money Id rather spend it elsewhere than on either of these.

wisguy · 12 June 2011, 03:53 AM

Hands down the Panda, no comparison in my mind between the two.

If price is not an issue go for it, the fact that the Panda is twice as expensive give or take may be an indication of how much better it is.

TSW · 12 June 2011, 04:16 AM

Got both love them both to bits

WatchTimes · 12 June 2011, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wisguy

Hands down the Panda, no comparison in my mind between the two.

If price is not an issue go for it, the fact that the Panda is twice as expensive give or take may be an indication of how much better it is.

Please explain this....
How is the movement twice as good as the Rolex movement???
The Rolex movement is an integrated chrono while the ROO is simply
a Piggy Back... Price does not always equate to a better movement.

The Rolex chrono is one of the best chrono movements made.

Again as I said earlier I am not really a fan of either but technologically the
Rolex is far superior.

Gretsch · 12 June 2011, 12:47 PM

Daytona for sure.

Spencer · 12 June 2011, 02:25 PM

Guess what I would say....

wisguy · 12 June 2011, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYogi

Please explain this....
How is the movement twice as good as the Rolex movement???
The Rolex movement is an integrated chrono while the ROO is simply
a Piggy Back... Price does not always equate to a better movement.

The Rolex chrono is one of the best chrono movements made.

Again as I said earlier I am not really a fan of either but technologically the
Rolex is far superior.

Wasn't talking about the movement.

Build quality, exclusivity and heritage make any AP better than any Rolex in my opinion.

I have a couple of both brands and that's they way I feel.

kilyung · 12 June 2011, 03:32 PM

I can attest to the AP movements being better finished than Rolex. Durability is a different matter altogether. However I prefer the column wheel Daytona over the Dubois Depraz module on the AP. Now the new integrated APs are entirely a different ballgame.

ecoupe · 27 July 2011, 04:47 PM

i just bought the AP panda, H series, with the 3 series movement, have u guys seen the movement, with the gold horse engraving etc?
i have owned "20 white and black face and "18 b mop dial, and have to say that the AP is bigger and more 3d, though hard to keep clean with the strap, the Daytonas are very durable and sleeker, hot water and then its easy to keep clean.
buy both in my opinion!!!

TSW · 27 July 2011, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoupe

i just bought the AP panda, H series, with the 3 series movement, have u guys seen the movement, with the gold horse engraving etc?
i have owned "20 white and black face and "18 b mop dial, and have to say that the AP is bigger and more 3d, though hard to keep clean with the strap, the Daytonas are very durable and sleeker, hot water and then its easy to keep clean.
buy both in my opinion!!!

Congrats on that Panda

And welcome to join the fun

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h999r · 27 July 2011, 07:50 PM

I would get the Panda. Check the panda bracelet ... You won't regret it.

thewatchguy93 · 27 July 2011, 07:54 PM

Both are AWSOME, I think I would go AP over the daytona, I have been after a daytona for almost a year now!!!

Dino

KelvinC · 27 July 2011, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h999r

I would get the Panda. Check the panda bracelet ... You won't regret it.

I agree. I had the Daytona and I recently acquired my grail, the AP Panda. No contest here.

For the AP:
- Readability of the dial. The daytona, especially the black is hard to read. Too much reflections.
- Bracelet on the AP is fantastic. I don't like polished centre links on the daytone.
- The bezel on the AP is brushed so less chance of showing sratches unlike the daytone
- Resale. As long as you don't pay full retail for the AP, they pretty much settle around $14-$15k for the AP on strap.
- Wrist presence goes to the AP. It looks like a really expensive watch, much more commanding than a Daytona.
- Too many Rolexes around and I have seen more than my fair share of Daytonas. However, I hardly see any APs and consider AP to be more exclusive.
- Date is not great on the AP due to the piggyback movement but at least it has a date.

For the Daytona:
- Integrated chrono is a piece of art. Still, I don't really use the chrono too much so it does not bother me. My reference for movements is JLC but guess what, as good as they are, I have lost lots of money on my JLC watches.

Just the thoughts I had before I made the decision to buy. The only consideration with my AP now is whether to keep it on the bracelet or the strap.

The strap gives it so much more character but the bracelet is so versatile.

Choose the AP. You can't settle for second best

h999r · 27 July 2011, 08:18 PM

Well said Kevin.
It just a different feeling to wear AP watch compare to Rolex. That's my opinion.

kctt · 27 July 2011, 11:44 PM

Buy and wear what you enjoy. Why fuss over the resale value?

Seriously, which is more important - the joy of wearing the watch you like or the resale value? If you like the AP, just buy it.

Mockingbird · 29 July 2011, 03:05 PM

The ROO is a joke. A piggybacked movement starting at 22K. No thanks. Now if we're taking about the ROC that's a different story.

Shelby-villian · 29 July 2011, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mockingbird

The ROO is a joke. A piggybacked movement starting at 22K. No thanks. Now if we're taking about the ROC that's a different story.

I agree the comparison should be daytona vs roc. Similar size with dependable movements.

Roo vs big bang would be a better comparison.

dddrees · 29 July 2011, 09:19 PM

The only right answer is which do you like best.

I have a Daytona and I am perfectly happy. However at some point in the future I might get an AP as they are starting to grow on me.

The question is which one would you prefer. Have you tried both of them on yet?

Gretsch · 30 July 2011, 08:31 AM

Panda Daytona :)

darkom · 30 July 2011, 09:27 AM

Do people really cross shop a $10k SS Dayton and a $20k AP? I'd say if you have to think about such a purchase you prob aren't liquid enough to make the purchase. It's like cross shopping a BMW and a Bentley..people that want the Bentley don't sit and ponder the purchase..

cheese · 30 July 2011, 10:37 AM

Go for AP ROO and u'll forget the Rolex Daytona or get the Daytona and still lusting for a ROO

zlin08033 · 30 July 2011, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheese

Go for AP ROO and u'll forget the Rolex Daytona or get the Daytona and still lusting for a ROO

X1
Hahaha!!! ROO in a heart beat.

h999r · 30 July 2011, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkom

Do people really cross shop a $10k SS Dayton and a $20k AP? I'd say if you have to think about such a purchase you prob aren't liquid enough to make the purchase. It's like cross shopping a BMW and a Bentley..people that want the Bentley don't sit and ponder the purchase..

Exactly ... well said ... its just not comparable ... driving Bentley is such a different feeling then BMW. If you like Bentley and could afford it, why not ?? or if you still choose to drive BMW and safe money .. thats not a bad idea too.

DOUGHN · 4 September 2011, 02:46 PM

i used to have same dilemma ...

choosing between rolex daytona, rolex dssd, and rolex glt2c ss, pam 233 and ap roo...

i got the ROO ti... no regrets

987fanatic · 13 September 2011, 12:54 PM

I had an ROO Safari for a few weeks but now just own a Daytona SS white dial...

Sorry guys, but it is my opinion that the Daytona wins hands down. ROO is just bulky, uncomfortable...and most importantly, it does not sing to me.

Ristretto · 13 September 2011, 03:58 PM

I've got a ROO bumblebee, ROO rubberclad white dial and a Daytona SS with black.

I wear the daytona most it us more versatile but you've got to own both, I don't like the AP Panda, I would suggest you to get the safari. Get a WG Daytona with the Arabic numerals black ore silver dial, it is sexy and timeless.

blackmsport · 13 September 2011, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h999r

Exactly ... well said ... its just not comparable ... driving Bentley is such a different feeling then BMW. If you like Bentley and could afford it, why not ?? or if you still choose to drive BMW and safe money .. thats not a bad idea too.

Agree

Orange doesn't taste like an Apple

you know what I meant

eric23 · 13 September 2011, 11:31 PM

Daytona!

agsstructures · 14 September 2011, 01:08 AM

I was in the same boat as you however I was looking at the royal oak chrono with the panda dial vs. a white dial daytona. I decided to save my cash for the AP!

12 June 2011, 02:29 AM	#1
shay Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: israel Watch: AP panda+daytona s Posts: 50	AP panda or ROLEX daytona ss hi I have a dilemma ... I'm debating between the purchase of AP's watch royal oak offshore Panda, and the Rolex Daytona ss. On the one hand the AP watch really wanted nowI think it's watch really pretty impressive, especially with leather strap, but my fear that this is a fashionable watchand hus price a year or two of fall, as happened for example HUBOLT watches. Rolex Daytona on the other hand, this watch actually keeps his value second hand market price. What do you recommend for me? thank you

12 June 2011, 03:26 AM	#2
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,486	I am not a big fan of either but of the two the Daytona would be my purchase. I do not care for the piggyback movement on the ROO and I think they have flooded their own market with limited editions. I have had 2 Daytonas and sold them both, I have tried on to purchase a few ROO's and never end up pulling the trigger, it just does not give me that warm and tingly feeling when I get it on the wrist. If I had to buy a Daytona it would be a RG, if I had to buy a ROO it would be the RG Rubberclad. But as I said if I had the money Id rather spend it elsewhere than on either of these. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

12 June 2011, 03:53 AM	#3
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	Hands down the Panda, no comparison in my mind between the two. If price is not an issue go for it, the fact that the Panda is twice as expensive give or take may be an indication of how much better it is. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

12 June 2011, 04:16 AM	#4
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Got both love them both to bits __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

12 June 2011, 02:25 PM	#7
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	Guess what I would say.... __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

12 June 2011, 12:47 PM	#6
Gretsch Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Watch: SubC LV & 16600 Posts: 229	Daytona for sure.

12 June 2011, 03:32 PM	#9
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,873	I can attest to the AP movements being better finished than Rolex. Durability is a different matter altogether. However I prefer the column wheel Daytona over the Dubois Depraz module on the AP. Now the new integrated APs are entirely a different ballgame.

27 July 2011, 04:47 PM	#10
ecoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: HK Posts: 4	i just bought the AP panda, H series, with the 3 series movement, have u guys seen the movement, with the gold horse engraving etc? i have owned "20 white and black face and "18 b mop dial, and have to say that the AP is bigger and more 3d, though hard to keep clean with the strap, the Daytonas are very durable and sleeker, hot water and then its easy to keep clean. buy both in my opinion!!!

27 July 2011, 07:50 PM	#12
h999r Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: HR Location: Planet Earth Watch: -ing Barts. Posts: 4,244	I would get the Panda. Check the panda bracelet ... You won't regret it.

27 July 2011, 07:54 PM	#13
thewatchguy93 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: thewatchguy Location: UK Watch: me buy gold.. Posts: 7,441	Both are AWSOME, I think I would go AP over the daytona, I have been after a daytona for almost a year now!!! Dino __________________ Instagram.. @thewatchguy www.thewatchguyofficial.co.uk Got a GREEN Submariner 116610LV.. Visit the official thread here! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=179580 Don't forget to visit the Rolex & Attire thread too! http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=215077

27 July 2011, 08:18 PM	#15
h999r Banned Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: HR Location: Planet Earth Watch: -ing Barts. Posts: 4,244	Well said Kevin. It just a different feeling to wear AP watch compare to Rolex. That's my opinion.

27 July 2011, 11:44 PM	#16
kctt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Melbourne Watch: AP Diver/SD/GMTIIc Posts: 228	Buy and wear what you enjoy. Why fuss over the resale value? Seriously, which is more important - the joy of wearing the watch you like or the resale value? If you like the AP, just buy it. __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 16600, Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Diver, Omega Seamaster Professional, Tudor Pelagos 25600TB, Tudor Black Bay Dark, Zenith Defy Classic IG: @idighorology

29 July 2011, 03:05 PM	#17
Mockingbird "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: -- Posts: 2,097	The ROO is a joke. A piggybacked movement starting at 22K. No thanks. Now if we're taking about the ROC that's a different story.

29 July 2011, 09:19 PM	#19
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	The only right answer is which do you like best. I have a Daytona and I am perfectly happy. However at some point in the future I might get an AP as they are starting to grow on me. The question is which one would you prefer. Have you tried both of them on yet? __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

30 July 2011, 08:31 AM	#20
Gretsch Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Watch: SubC LV & 16600 Posts: 229	Panda Daytona :)

30 July 2011, 09:27 AM	#21
darkom Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 54	Do people really cross shop a $10k SS Dayton and a $20k AP? I'd say if you have to think about such a purchase you prob aren't liquid enough to make the purchase. It's like cross shopping a BMW and a Bentley..people that want the Bentley don't sit and ponder the purchase..

30 July 2011, 10:37 AM	#22
cheese "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: TW Posts: 11	Go for AP ROO and u'll forget the Rolex Daytona or get the Daytona and still lusting for a ROO

4 September 2011, 02:46 PM	#25
DOUGHN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Manila Watch: AP.Rolex.Pam.Tudor Posts: 372	i used to have same dilemma ... choosing between rolex daytona, rolex dssd, and rolex glt2c ss, pam 233 and ap roo... i got the ROO ti... no regrets

13 September 2011, 12:54 PM	#26
987fanatic "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 29	I had an ROO Safari for a few weeks but now just own a Daytona SS white dial... Sorry guys, but it is my opinion that the Daytona wins hands down. ROO is just bulky, uncomfortable...and most importantly, it does not sing to me.

13 September 2011, 03:58 PM	#27
Ristretto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: GMT + 3 Watch: Platinum Daytona Posts: 1,320	I've got a ROO bumblebee, ROO rubberclad white dial and a Daytona SS with black. I wear the daytona most it us more versatile but you've got to own both, I don't like the AP Panda, I would suggest you to get the safari. Get a WG Daytona with the Arabic numerals black ore silver dial, it is sexy and timeless.

13 September 2011, 11:31 PM	#29
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	Daytona!

14 September 2011, 01:08 AM	#30
agsstructures 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,290	I was in the same boat as you however I was looking at the royal oak chrono with the panda dial vs. a white dial daytona. I decided to save my cash for the AP!

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