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Old Expat Beast · 9 August 2019, 06:20 PM

Nice to see Seiko mechanical movements getting credit for outperforming Rolex and all other Swiss brands in the 1960s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKRnMus0V74

mgsooner · 10 August 2019, 12:52 AM

I watched this a couple of days ago, fantastic video. Not sure how I feel about the GS featured in the video. The busy dial, the size, the price tag...however you cannot deny it is one incredibly built watch. Just stunning quality.

77T · 10 August 2019, 01:51 AM

Thanks Adam
I agree with one point 100%. “There are no right or wrong answers.” But a GMT Daytona with Power Reserve indicator isn’t an answer to solve a gnawing problem methinks.

My take: Just because you can doesn’t mean you should, Seiko.

The GS Chrono-GMT does something Rolex could consider. Ditch the Tachymeter scaled bezel on the Daytona in favor of a rotating 2nd TZ with a 12hr. Scale. No racers are using the Tachymeter.

No new complication required in the 4130 but an additional value-added function for racers who are often competing at a track far from home.

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bondtoys · 10 August 2019, 03:26 AM

I‘ve just told a friend of mine and massive Rolex fan and GS hater, that the Swiss better watch out that history is not repeating itself.

The Swiss sit on such a high horse for some time now, it‘s about time that someone seriously is kicking their butts.

And Seiko seems to be determined just to do that - again!

mgsooner · 10 August 2019, 06:51 AM

There's also the tiny little issue that you can't actually walk into a store and, ya know, BUY a Rolex right now.

You look at the Rolex forum on this board right now and it is a pretty miserable place. Despite Rolex's extreme brand desirability this absurd situation has to be driving potential buyers away in droves.

This is a big moment for Omega, Seiko/GS, Breitling, etc. Can they take full advantage?

Locust · 10 August 2019, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mgsooner

There's also the tiny little issue that you can't actually walk into a store and, ya know, BUY a Rolex right now.

You look at the Rolex forum on this board right now and it is a pretty miserable place. Despite Rolex's extreme brand desirability this absurd situation has to be driving potential buyers away in droves.

This is a big moment for Omega, Seiko/GS, Breitling, etc. Can they take full advantage?

It's driving me away and starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth. Not the unavailability per se. Just the absolute cluster that is around the Rolex brand right now. Huge turn off that Rolex is the new ticket scalper honey pot.

mgsooner · 10 August 2019, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Locust

It's driving me away and starting to leave a bad taste in my mouth. Not the unavailability per se. Just the absolute cluster that is around the Rolex brand right now. Huge turn off that Rolex is the new ticket scalper honey pot.

I feel the same way. It's like a dark cloud over the brand. I do wonder how much of it is just the fact that I'm fully aware of how bad the situation is because I'm active on the forums. However then I think about the guy who knows nothing and walks into the local Rolex AD because he just got a new job and wants to treat himself to a Sub...

Old Expat Beast · 10 August 2019, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Thanks Adam
I agree with one point 100%. “There are no right or wrong answers.” But a GMT Daytona with Power Reserve indicator isn’t an answer to solve a gnawing problem methinks.

My take: Just because you can doesn’t mean you should, Seiko.

The GS Chrono-GMT does something Rolex could consider. Ditch the Tachymeter scaled bezel on the Daytona in favor of a rotating 2nd TZ with a 12hr. Scale. No racers are using the Tachymeter.

No new complication required in the 4130 but an additional value-added function for racers who are often competing at a track far from home.

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Yeah, Tudor has done that a few times over the years and I find it much more useful than a tachymetre.

Old Expat Beast · 10 August 2019, 10:45 AM

This Watch Geek video has more detail on Seiko causing the Swiss to stop running chronometer competitions: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayUT5WfkHrA&t

icnbne · 10 August 2019, 01:49 PM

Yeah saw that video a while ago
Been on the looking for a period grand/king seiko ever since

Romeojk · 13 August 2019, 07:29 AM

Thanks for sharing, beautiful watches!

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9 August 2019, 06:20 PM	#1
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,354	Great New Watchfinder & Co Video Nice to see Seiko mechanical movements getting credit for outperforming Rolex and all other Swiss brands in the 1960s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKRnMus0V74 __________________ _______________________

10 August 2019, 01:51 AM	#3
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,690	Great New Watchfinder & Co Video Thanks Adam I agree with one point 100%. “There are no right or wrong answers.” But a GMT Daytona with Power Reserve indicator isn’t an answer to solve a gnawing problem methinks. My take: Just because you can doesn’t mean you should, Seiko. The GS Chrono-GMT does something Rolex could consider. Ditch the Tachymeter scaled bezel on the Daytona in favor of a rotating 2nd TZ with a 12hr. Scale. No racers are using the Tachymeter. No new complication required in the 4130 but an additional value-added function for racers who are often competing at a track far from home. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

10 August 2019, 10:45 AM	#9
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,354	This Watch Geek video has more detail on Seiko causing the Swiss to stop running chronometer competitions: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayUT5WfkHrA&t __________________ _______________________

10 August 2019, 12:52 AM	#2
mgsooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Matthew Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 1,906	I watched this a couple of days ago, fantastic video. Not sure how I feel about the GS featured in the video. The busy dial, the size, the price tag...however you cannot deny it is one incredibly built watch. Just stunning quality.

10 August 2019, 03:26 AM	#4
bondtoys "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: World Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,719	I‘ve just told a friend of mine and massive Rolex fan and GS hater, that the Swiss better watch out that history is not repeating itself. The Swiss sit on such a high horse for some time now, it‘s about time that someone seriously is kicking their butts. And Seiko seems to be determined just to do that - again!

10 August 2019, 06:51 AM	#5
mgsooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Matthew Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 1,906	There's also the tiny little issue that you can't actually walk into a store and, ya know, BUY a Rolex right now. You look at the Rolex forum on this board right now and it is a pretty miserable place. Despite Rolex's extreme brand desirability this absurd situation has to be driving potential buyers away in droves. This is a big moment for Omega, Seiko/GS, Breitling, etc. Can they take full advantage?

10 August 2019, 01:49 PM	#10
icnbne "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: J Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Omega Seiko Posts: 1,562	Yeah saw that video a while ago Been on the looking for a period grand/king seiko ever since

13 August 2019, 07:29 AM	#11
Romeojk 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Cape Cod Watch: Submariner 114060 Posts: 1,910	Thanks for sharing, beautiful watches! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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