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Silver Lobster · 22 April 2011, 10:38 AM

What's normal accuracy for a manual wind Rolex? I have a 6694 and even after service which included it being timed and regulated it still looses around 20 secs a day. I am experimenting with leaving it in different positions and would appreciate anyones opinion who has owned a manual wind type or any Techies that know

MonBK · 22 April 2011, 10:46 AM

That is not right.
A 6694 Oyster Date should keep accurate time after service.
Obviously not done by RSC.

Silver Lobster · 22 April 2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

That is not right.
A 6694 Oyster Date should keep accurate time after service.
Obviously not done by RSC.

No, unwilling to wait up to 2 months just for a service! It was much the same as before in fact. Watch repairer was great on the phone and appears to have done a good job overall but now has stopped answering emails! But that's an aside... anyone else??

MonBK · 22 April 2011, 10:59 AM

What else do you need to know?

You've answered your own question.

Kapture1 · 22 April 2011, 11:02 AM

Sounds like they billed you for the regulation but didn't do one.

I would go visit face to face.

Silver Lobster · 22 April 2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapture1

Sounds like they billed you for the regulation but didn't do one.

I would go visit face to face.

Would love to but it's the other side of the country! Service was done via post. Actually the company enclosed a printout of the sheet showing the result of the timing performed. I don't have a scanner but could photograph the result and perhaps post a picture in this thread. I'll be honest, it all looks quite complicated to me so maybe someone more capable could decode it. I'll try and do that after I get home from work.

MonBK · 22 April 2011, 11:14 AM

Does it really matter what a piece of paper says when it's pretty obvious that the "watchmaker" pulled a fast one on you?

Silver Lobster · 22 April 2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Does it really matter what a piece of paper says when it's pretty obvious that the "watchmaker" pulled a fast one on you?

You could be right MonBk, but I'd like to think that the guy is not being dishonest. On the phone he came across as genuine and very helpful. But I accept he may have slipped up, even if not deliberately. Perhaps I'm being too nice!

MonBK · 22 April 2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Lobster

You could be right MonBk, but I'd like to think that the guy is not being dishonest. On the phone he came across as genuine and very helpful. But I accept he may have slipped up, even if not deliberately. Perhaps I'm being too nice!

The only other reasonable thing that could have happened is if the watch was hurt during shipping.

What I mean is, dropped hard or similar.

How well was it packed?

Silver Lobster · 22 April 2011, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

The only other reasonable thing that could have happened is if the watch was hurt during shipping.

What I mean is, dropped hard or similar.

How well was it packed?

Good point! It was fairly well packed, so there was nothing about the packaging that was substandard. Also it has not been "clonked" or dropped etc since getting it back...

MonBK · 22 April 2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Lobster

Good point! It was fairly well packed, so there was nothing about the packaging that was substandard. Also it has not been "clonked" or dropped etc since getting it back...

Then back to option one, phony watchmaker.

Silver Lobster · 22 April 2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Then back to option one, phony watchmaker.

You could be right. But I hope not. Anyway, still looking for opinions on typical accuracy for a manual wind type.

Rikki · 22 April 2011, 12:33 PM

It should be better say within 10 seconds or so but and this is a big one you had your watch serviced not restored, to bring it in better the balance should be replaced as well maybe a gear or 2. If you were to do a tune up on a 45 year old car you know new plugs wires etc. you would not expect it to have the same power it did when it was new do you I doubt it. Now rebuild the motor and you're back to square one. I know you're not trying to throw this guy under the bus but I don't believe Rolex would garantee the watch to within 15 seconds a day without a new gear train and balance staff. JMO Rik

Silver Lobster · 22 April 2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikki

It should be better say within 10 seconds or so but and this is a big one you had your watch serviced not restored, to bring it in better the balance should be replaced as well maybe a gear or 2. If you were to do a tune up on a 45 year old car you know new plugs wires etc. you would not expect it to have the same power it did when it was new do you I doubt it. Now rebuild the motor and you're back to square one. I know you're not trying to throw this guy under the bus but I don't believe Rolex would garantee the watch to within 15 seconds a day without a new gear train and balance staff. JMO Rik

Rikki, thanks for your comments; also in case it makes a difference, the mainspring was replaced during service. The guy who did it said he uses a brand known as General and explained the type he used (I have more info about this at home)...

Tools · 24 April 2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Lobster

Rikki, thanks for your comments; also in case it makes a difference, the mainspring was replaced during service. The guy who did it said he uses a brand known as General and explained the type he used (I have more info about this at home)...

It's nice that he put in a mainspring.. he should have; hopefully he properly cleaned and oiled the works...

However, a proper service should have included a new balance, pallet, worn gears, jewels, or any other part that was out of tolerance... but, of course, it's a bit late now to worry about such things...

Your watch is fairly easy to regulate... Just take it to a local watchmaker/Dealer and have it regulated. It's a common and inexpensive operation.....

SkyKing31 · 24 April 2011, 01:47 PM

You got rippped off

Silver Lobster · 24 April 2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

It's nice that he put in a mainspring.. he should have; hopefully he properly cleaned and oiled the works...

However, a proper service should have included a new balance, pallet, worn gears, jewels, or any other part that was out of tolerance... but, of course, it's a bit late now to worry about such things...

Your watch is fairly easy to regulate... Just take it to a local watchmaker/Dealer and have it regulated. It's a common and inexpensive operation.....

Hi Tools, yes thanks for the vote of confidence! I agree with your comments re service items. I wish I had £300+ to drop on a service but don't so went with the cheaper option, clearly an unpopular choice here! Additionally, long waiting times compounded the issue for me. But should I get another Rolex, I would hope to budget for a service at an Official Service Centre. Thanks again to Rikki and Tools for your constructive comments and time, they are appreciated

marcinthemiddle · 24 April 2011, 03:20 PM

IMO- your best bet would be to send it into an RSC- they warranty their work...

(Also, you can be assured they're using authentic Rolex parts.)

marcinthemiddle · 24 April 2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyKing31

You got rippped off

That comment's a little harsh- and in no way helping the OP.

Silver Lobster · 24 April 2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by marcinthemiddle

That comment's a little harsh- and in no way helping the OP.

Hi Marc, thanks for comments. You are right of course about the RSC, will definitely consider this next time. I have resolved to phone the chap up and just say look, this watch needs regulating, will you do under g'tee? He was very approachable before and I had several nice chats with during the service...

RRGHOST1 · 24 April 2011, 08:28 PM

Where abouts in the UK did you send it to, and where abouts do you live ?

Silver Lobster · 25 April 2011, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexplorer2

Where abouts in the UK did you send it to, and where abouts do you live ?

Hi Rolexplorer2, I live in the midlands, and used a firm in Yorkshire. Will let you know more after I have spoken to the chap

Silver Lobster · 26 April 2011, 06:16 PM

Just spoke to watch repairer this morning...he is happy to receive it back and is confident it's just a case of re-regulation, says he will do it under g'tee without charge...just as well really!

Silver Lobster · 7 September 2011, 10:46 AM

Had my watch re-timed by someone else more local to me last week. Now it keeps amazing time, better than ever, within approx 3 seconds a day!

dpkong · 8 September 2011, 01:37 AM

wow.. did not know these old timers keep such good time. great to hear you got it all nice and dandy!

rmfnla · 8 September 2011, 03:15 AM

I just love a happy ending...

22 April 2011, 10:38 AM	#1
Silver Lobster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: England Watch: S/S 6694 Posts: 83	What's normal accuracy for manual wind Rolex? What's normal accuracy for a manual wind Rolex? I have a 6694 and even after service which included it being timed and regulated it still looses around 20 secs a day. I am experimenting with leaving it in different positions and would appreciate anyones opinion who has owned a manual wind type or any Techies that know __________________ Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think. Last edited by Silver Lobster; 22 April 2011 at 10:40 AM.. Reason: Fat fingered tYpInG.

22 April 2011, 11:02 AM	#5
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	Sounds like they billed you for the regulation but didn't do one. I would go visit face to face. __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

22 April 2011, 12:33 PM	#13
Rikki TechXpert Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rik Dietel Location: Seminole Fla Watch: 5512 s/s Sub Posts: 1,818	It should be better say within 10 seconds or so but and this is a big one you had your watch serviced not restored, to bring it in better the balance should be replaced as well maybe a gear or 2. If you were to do a tune up on a 45 year old car you know new plugs wires etc. you would not expect it to have the same power it did when it was new do you I doubt it. Now rebuild the motor and you're back to square one. I know you're not trying to throw this guy under the bus but I don't believe Rolex would garantee the watch to within 15 seconds a day without a new gear train and balance staff. JMO Rik __________________ Century 21 Certified watchmaker Omega Service Provider Trained Omega OWME Certified. Rolex Parts Account Holder.

24 April 2011, 03:20 PM	#18
marcinthemiddle Vacated Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Marc Location: Connecticut Watch: PAM 111 'N' Posts: 2,558	IMO- your best bet would be to send it into an RSC- they warranty their work... (Also, you can be assured they're using authentic Rolex parts.) __________________ NAWCC Member Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Executive Dorklehead

26 April 2011, 06:16 PM	#23
Silver Lobster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: England Watch: S/S 6694 Posts: 83	Just spoke to watch repairer this morning...he is happy to receive it back and is confident it's just a case of re-regulation, says he will do it under g'tee without charge...just as well really! __________________ Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think.

22 April 2011, 10:46 AM	#2
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	That is not right. A 6694 Oyster Date should keep accurate time after service. Obviously not done by RSC.

22 April 2011, 10:59 AM	#4
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	What else do you need to know? You've answered your own question.

22 April 2011, 11:14 AM	#7
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	Does it really matter what a piece of paper says when it's pretty obvious that the "watchmaker" pulled a fast one on you?

24 April 2011, 01:47 PM	#16
SkyKing31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Manalapan Florida Watch: Tridor Masterpiece Posts: 2,819	You got rippped off

24 April 2011, 08:28 PM	#21
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,903	Where abouts in the UK did you send it to, and where abouts do you live ?

7 September 2011, 10:46 AM	#24
Silver Lobster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: England Watch: S/S 6694 Posts: 83	Had my watch re-timed by someone else more local to me last week. Now it keeps amazing time, better than ever, within approx 3 seconds a day! __________________ Enjoy yourself. It's later than you think.

8 September 2011, 01:37 AM	#25
dpkong "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Don Location: Borneo Watch: it! Posts: 863	wow.. did not know these old timers keep such good time. great to hear you got it all nice and dandy!

8 September 2011, 03:15 AM	#26
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	I just love a happy ending... __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

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