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SC11 · 23 July 2018, 07:50 AM

I’m finding my 15407st is getting all the wrist time, so considering just having a 2-3 watch collection

Interested in what you guys would pair with the 15407st and compete with it on wrist time?

Open to any brand

Prefer it not to be PM, I’m ok with SS, Ti, Ce etc

Budget £50,000 (New or NOS not pre-owned)

Not really a fan of leather strap watches

I’ll be having my 116600 as a beater

mnl · 23 July 2018, 08:22 AM

What do you think of the Aquanaut? I think that plus a Royal Oak, especially the openworked, make an amazing collection.

Only problem is those are so hard to get now…

chad362wiley · 23 July 2018, 08:29 AM

CE44 offshore hands down, RG44 if youd consider PM. That would be the ultimate combo imo.

SC11 · 23 July 2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mnl

What do you think of the Aquanaut? I think that plus a Royal Oak, especially the openworked, make an amazing collection.

Only problem is those are so hard to get now…

I’ve had the 5167a, purchase blind and just didn’t bond so let it go after a month or so.

5164a is/was an option but after trying on the 5968a/5168g I’ve realised the 42mm Aquanaut is the sweet spot for me so now not sure about the 5164a.

(I had been looking at adding the 5164a and 5711a white)

SC11 · 23 July 2018, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chad362wiley

CE44 offshore hands down, RG44 if youd consider PM. That would be the ultimate combo imo.

Had the Ti44, the latest gen Ce44 is an option but just not sold on the blue accents my favourite 44’s are the FC44 and the original short run black dial Ce44 with the solid black and red accent dials.

chad362wiley · 23 July 2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Had the Ti44, the latest gen Ce44 is an option but just not sold on the blue accents my favourite 44’s are the FC44 and the original short run black dial Ce44 with the solid black and red accent dials.

Those are sweet too. The FC44 is nice. I personally would try to locate a black dial CE, great watch

OP15 · 23 July 2018, 08:46 AM

Since PM is not preferred...how about a 5990? If sourced from PP, it’s on budget; if sourced elsewhere, slightly over.

SC11 · 23 July 2018, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OP15

Since PM is not preferred...how about a 5990? If sourced from PP, it’s on budget; if sourced elsewhere, slightly over.

Yes the most logical step if I was to go PP, I’ll be honest I’ve tried the 5990a on and wasn’t as impressed as I thought/hoped I was going to be!

AK797 · 23 July 2018, 09:30 AM

I think the Aquanaut is the best option, 5164 is my fave, but the chrono might be better size wise. Alternatively you could get a Dato and put a thick rubber strap on it which I think balances it out more and makes it less top heavy, esp the 39mm. Also the Grey Ghost... if it exists...

benlee · 23 July 2018, 10:42 AM

An offshore? But I remember you already have the Ti ROO 44mm

OP15 · 23 July 2018, 10:46 AM

[QUOTE=SC11;8786763]Yes the most logical step if I was to go PP, I’ll be honest I’ve tried the 5990a on and wasn’t as impressed as I thought/hoped I was going to be!

Looks good on the wrist, but it definitely needs to impress you, especially to pull you away from the 15407.

SC11 · 23 July 2018, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

I think the Aquanaut is the best option, 5164 is my fave, but the chrono might be better size wise. Alternatively you could get a Dato and put a thick rubber strap on it which I think balances it out more and makes it less top heavy, esp the 39mm. Also the Grey Ghost... if it exists...

Was set on a 5164a but after trying in the 42mm version I feel I’d always be wishing it was that little bit larger, BTW I don’t like the 5968/5168 just prefer the size!
Can admire ALS but not sure they are for me yet.

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Originally Posted by benlee

An offshore? But I remember you already have the Ti ROO 44mm

Yes the Ti, but the 15407 gets all the time, nothing wrong with the Ti but after my initial buzz it’s just feels a little plain now.

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Originally Posted by OP15

Looks good on the wrist, but it definitely needs to impress you, especially to pull you away from the 15407.

Thanks guess in the back of my mind I was expecting it to be the PP equivalent of the Openworked which sadly it wasn’t, lovely piece none the less just not that initial Wow but in saying that it’s still a piece I keep coming back to so must have something about it.

mnl · 23 July 2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SC11

I’ve had the 5167a, purchase blind and just didn’t bond so let it go after a month or so.

5164a is/was an option but after trying on the 5968a/5168g I’ve realised the 42mm Aquanaut is the sweet spot for me so now not sure about the 5164a.

(I had been looking at adding the 5164a and 5711a white)

Yeah that does look smaller on you, and I just read you don’t like the new 5968…so I guess that’s out.

I’m more of a single watch person, so I’m having a hard time trying to think of a good recommendation. I think another amazing option could be a perpetual calendar RO, but it might not work as well as part of a rotation and it’s also very similar to your openworked. Maybe a RO chronograph? Not a huge fan of the bigger Offshore models, or of bigger watches in general (for myself anyways, there’s some people who can really pull them off and look great wearing them).

LAFLARE · 23 July 2018, 05:27 PM

What would compete with it for wrist time? The RG44! But since you don't prefer PM, I would probably explore PP since I believe the only other AP SS that would compare with the OW would be PC or RO blue dials.

Helmi · 23 July 2018, 05:46 PM

5712 and daytona

lapince · 23 July 2018, 07:16 PM

Easy, a PP 5712 of course, would be an awesome pair or trio with the 44 TI, even if you prefer the 15407 I would imagine you would have days where you won't want to risk scratching the 407 because of certain activities and where the ceramic bezel of the 44 will be great

AK797 · 23 July 2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Was set on a 5164a but after trying in the 42mm version I feel I’d always be wishing it was that little bit larger, BTW I don’t like the 5968/5168 just prefer the size!
Can admire ALS but not sure they are for me yet.

Yes the Ti, but the 15407 gets all the time, nothing wrong with the Ti but after my initial buzz it’s just feels a little plain now.

Thanks guess in the back of my mind I was expecting it to be the PP equivalent of the Openworked which sadly it wasn’t, lovely piece none the less just not that initial Wow but in saying that it’s still a piece I keep coming back to so must have something about it.

If the 44 TI is a bit plain now then the RG is the way to go, certainly not plain! Maybe revisit this one.

edo · 23 July 2018, 08:35 PM

If it was me, for little bit more I will buy 15202 and Trulli for the perfect AP trifecta... legendary sport/dress blue dial, FC + ceremet bezel, rubber strap sport AP, and the openwork insane watch you already have...

Another option would be Ti Schumi for 50k... it has more going on the dial than the Ti, but maybe you will find him plain also over some time...

benlee · 24 July 2018, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Yes the Ti, but the 15407 gets all the time, nothing wrong with the Ti but after my initial buzz it’s just feels a little plain now.

I think it's perfectly alright to be contended and happy with wearing your 15407ST and wears it most of time. No need to seek another. That is until you finally get bored with it.

tyler1980 · 24 July 2018, 01:08 AM

you need something on rubber if the 15407 and the sea dweller are the two watches you will have... so with a 50k budget you can probably get two since you dont want PM.

5968 @ £33k + £17k left over, and that still buys a lot of watch

nick c · 24 July 2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

Yes the most logical step if I was to go PP, I’ll be honest I’ve tried the 5990a on and wasn’t as impressed as I thought/hoped I was going to be!

This one is perfect 👌

tyler1980 · 24 July 2018, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nick c

This one is perfect

got to get it out of AD lighting though

My favourite watch hands down

ragsk · 24 July 2018, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SC11

I’ve had the 5167a, purchase blind and just didn’t bond so let it go after a month or so.

5164a is/was an option but after trying on the 5968a/5168g I’ve realised the 42mm Aquanaut is the sweet spot for me so now not sure about the 5164a.

(I had been looking at adding the 5164a and 5711a white)

Mate what is your wrist size? That looks small on you.

SC11 · 24 July 2018, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mnl

Yeah that does look smaller on you, and I just read you don’t like the new 5968…so I guess that’s out.

I’m more of a single watch person, so I’m having a hard time trying to think of a good recommendation. I think another amazing option could be a perpetual calendar RO, but it might not work as well as part of a rotation and it’s also very similar to your openworked. Maybe a RO chronograph? Not a huge fan of the bigger Offshore models, or of bigger watches in general (for myself anyways, there’s some people who can really pull them off and look great wearing them).

The white date windows are a big no no for my on the PP’s, I did get really excited when I saw the new black dial RO PC appear on the AP site until I realised it was Pt!

ROC is a good option, really like the 26331IP but I was thinking at some point I might move the SDc on for a ROC on rubber strap, think the silver dial ROC on the black rubber strap would make a great daily wear.

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Originally Posted by LAFLARE

What would compete with it for wrist time? The RG44! But since you don't prefer PM, I would probably explore PP since I believe the only other AP SS that would compare with the OW would be PC or RO blue dials.

I can admire the RG44 but it’s just not for me, the Ce44 is nice but ruined IMO with the blue accents, my current two favourite 44’s are the FC44 and the first gen Ce44 for the same black dial as the FC.

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Originally Posted by Helmi

5712 and daytona

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Originally Posted by lapince

Easy, a PP 5712 of course, would be an awesome pair or trio with the 44 TI, even if you prefer the 15407 I would imagine you would have days where you won't want to risk scratching the 407 because of certain activities and where the ceramic bezel of the 44 will be great

Have has three Daytona’s now and none have lasted (116520 white and both dial 116500)

As for the 5712 hmmm just not for me like the unbalanced dial it’s just the blue, if they grey dial was available on the 5712 I would have it!
The 5711a white is still an addition I would like but know it will be a wait.

SC11 · 24 July 2018, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

If the 44 TI is a bit plain now then the RG is the way to go, certainly not plain! Maybe revisit this one.

As above, love the look of RG but just not for me!

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Originally Posted by edo

If it was me, for little bit more I will buy 15202 and Trulli for the perfect AP trifecta... legendary sport/dress blue dial, FC + ceremet bezel, rubber strap sport AP, and the openwork insane watch you already have...

Another option would be Ti Schumi for 50k... it has more going on the dial than the Ti, but maybe you will find him plain also over some time...

15202 was a let down on the wrist, the 41mm suits be better and again it’s the blue dial.
Never seen a Trulli in person maybe I should search one out!

Schumi Ti and RBII Ti are both sneaking to the top of the list ATM

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Originally Posted by benlee

I think it's perfectly alright to be contended and happy with wearing your 15407ST and wears it most of time. No need to seek another. That is until you finally get bored with it.

Very true but given the hassle to acquire certain pieces it doesn’t hurt to have an idea in mind and start to wheels in motion.

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

you need something on rubber if the 15407 and the sea dweller are the two watches you will have... so with a 50k budget you can probably get two since you dont want PM.

5968 @ £33k + £17k left over, and that still buys a lot of watch

Still prefer to see a 42mm 5164a

SC11 · 24 July 2018, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ragsk

Mate what is your wrist size? That looks small on you.

Just over 7.5

AK797 · 24 July 2018, 06:26 AM

Schumi would be the one for me, not quite as thrilled with the RB2.

GB-man · 24 July 2018, 07:00 AM

Hold for SIHH 2019

SC11 · 24 July 2018, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Hold for SIHH 2019

Sssssh it’s your fault I’m in this predicament! I was happy with Rolex until you put the AP spanner in the works.....

Now look at me

Jp28 · 24 July 2018, 08:27 AM

RB2. Lots going on with dial. Right metal, size etc. About the best ROO ever.

23 July 2018, 07:50 AM	#1
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	What would you pick?! I’m finding my 15407st is getting all the wrist time, so considering just having a 2-3 watch collection Interested in what you guys would pair with the 15407st and compete with it on wrist time? Open to any brand Prefer it not to be PM, I’m ok with SS, Ti, Ce etc Budget £50,000 (New or NOS not pre-owned) Not really a fan of leather strap watches I’ll be having my 116600 as a beater

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tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	you need something on rubber if the 15407 and the sea dweller are the two watches you will have... so with a 50k budget you can probably get two since you dont want PM. 5968 @ £33k + £17k left over, and that still buys a lot of watch __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

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23 July 2018, 08:22 AM	#2
mnl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: sf Watch: 15450ST Posts: 540	What do you think of the Aquanaut? I think that plus a Royal Oak, especially the openworked, make an amazing collection. Only problem is those are so hard to get now…

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OP15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Andrew Location: USA Posts: 542	Since PM is not preferred...how about a 5990? If sourced from PP, it’s on budget; if sourced elsewhere, slightly over.

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AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	I think the Aquanaut is the best option, 5164 is my fave, but the chrono might be better size wise. Alternatively you could get a Dato and put a thick rubber strap on it which I think balances it out more and makes it less top heavy, esp the 39mm. Also the Grey Ghost... if it exists...

23 July 2018, 10:46 AM	#11
OP15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Andrew Location: USA Posts: 542	[QUOTE=SC11;8786763]Yes the most logical step if I was to go PP, I’ll be honest I’ve tried the 5990a on and wasn’t as impressed as I thought/hoped I was going to be! Looks good on the wrist, but it definitely needs to impress you, especially to pull you away from the 15407.

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LAFLARE "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: SF, CA Posts: 833	What would compete with it for wrist time? The RG44! But since you don't prefer PM, I would probably explore PP since I believe the only other AP SS that would compare with the OW would be PC or RO blue dials.

23 July 2018, 05:46 PM	#15
Helmi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Doha Posts: 2,065	5712 and daytona

23 July 2018, 07:16 PM	#16
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Easy, a PP 5712 of course, would be an awesome pair or trio with the 44 TI, even if you prefer the 15407 I would imagine you would have days where you won't want to risk scratching the 407 because of certain activities and where the ceramic bezel of the 44 will be great

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edo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sarajevo Posts: 1,805	If it was me, for little bit more I will buy 15202 and Trulli for the perfect AP trifecta... legendary sport/dress blue dial, FC + ceremet bezel, rubber strap sport AP, and the openwork insane watch you already have... Another option would be Ti Schumi for 50k... it has more going on the dial than the Ti, but maybe you will find him plain also over some time...

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AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	Schumi would be the one for me, not quite as thrilled with the RB2.

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Jp28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Here and there Posts: 565	RB2. Lots going on with dial. Right metal, size etc. About the best ROO ever.

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