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Old 18 July 2018, 06:20 PM   #1
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Seiko Japan boycotting Chrono24?

I have a watchshop and I'm official Seiko dealer (for decades)
I also sell a few MM300, Astrons etc on Chrono24.

I've just heard from my Seiko Netherlands accountmanager from september on we have to sign a contract to not put Seiko Elite series ( Prospex/Presage/Premier/Astron) on Chrono24, eBay, Amazon, Bol.com(Dutch site) etc.

I don't have the slightest clue what's the purpose/benefit of it for them because I'll be selling less, just like my fellow colleagues.

I find this too strange to be true.

Juridically, what's possible?

I'm situated in the Netherlands/EU.

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Old 18 July 2018, 07:14 PM   #2
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I'm not really surprised, I guess some retailers are complaining to Seiko about discounted watches being sold by authorised retailers internationally over the internet at heavily reduced prices, which makes it difficult for other retailers in foreign countries to complete.

I think Seiko are trying to get greater control over price and international sales trading. The next step would be to say not sales over the internet or internationally, but lets hope it doesn't come to that.

Seiko can change their licensing terms as they see fit, and there isn't legally much anyone can do about it.
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Old 18 July 2018, 08:04 PM   #3
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Yeah but you know, we are in a globalizing world all together.

If 'we' stop selling Seikos(with or without discount) on the net, others will still be doing that.

I'm for one reason on chrono24 BECAUSE I heard customers taling about buying online, and because seeing the competition selling Seikos etc online. If you can't beat them join them, isn't it?

So what's the point? If I don't sell via chrono24 etc. somebody else will...

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Old 18 July 2018, 09:00 PM   #4
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Yeah but you know, we are in a globalizing world all together.

If 'we' stop selling Seikos(with or without discount) on the net, others will still be doing that.

I'm for one reason on chrono24 BECAUSE I heard customers taling about buying online, and because seeing the competition selling Seikos etc online. If you can't beat them join them, isn't it?

So what's the point? If I don't sell via chrono24 etc. somebody else will...

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But if nobody can anymore than eventually all dealers will benefit and uphold your margin
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Old 18 July 2018, 09:35 PM   #5
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But if nobody can anymore than eventually all dealers will benefit and uphold your margin
Ha, there is a more than big grey Seiko (online) circuit/market around the globe. So I don't see that happen, only in my dreams, hate to say it.....;)

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Old 18 July 2018, 10:21 PM   #6
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I‘d like to hear what you‘d say, if Seiko would start their own online store and sell them with a discount?

For exactly the same reason, Seiko tries to stop online sales by their ADs.
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Old 18 July 2018, 11:11 PM   #7
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BTW do you still have the MM300 in stock?
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Old 19 July 2018, 01:23 PM   #8
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BTW do you still have the MM300 in stock?
Haha, that was my first thought too!
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Old 19 July 2018, 11:53 PM   #9
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Haha, that was my first thought too!
no answer so I guess not

should've pulled the trigger a couple months ago
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Although the party signing the agreement must stay off eBay, Chrono24, etc - the person who buys 20+ items doesn’t. So the current Seiko dealers doing online marketing will just go to a 3rd party and that’ll shave their retail margins.


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