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Old 11 January 2021, 09:07 AM   #1
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5712 1a soon discontinued

Hi folks,
many rumors are now summing up about 5712 and 5711 soon to be discontinued. Not clear to me if we will see a new version or not.

I bet movement upgrade but definitely those model has to stay.

Whatís your thought ?
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Old 11 January 2021, 02:15 PM   #2
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I heard about the 5711 rumor but not the 5712. Would you happen to have the source and the info for that one?
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Old 11 January 2021, 02:48 PM   #3
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"many rumors" from where?
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Old 11 January 2021, 05:47 PM   #4
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My AD has stated rumors for 5712 discontinuation for a while (years).
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Old 12 January 2021, 06:44 AM   #5
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I heard a rumor that most rumors are not true.
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Old 12 January 2021, 07:39 AM   #6
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I heard a rumor that most rumors are not true.
I heard a rumour saying that the rumour about rumours not being true, is a rumour.
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Old 12 January 2021, 07:50 AM   #7
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I hope not. I’m picking mine up on Friday!
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Old 12 January 2021, 07:51 AM   #8
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I heard a rumour saying that the rumour about rumours not being true, is a rumour.
Well played sir.

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Old 12 January 2021, 07:54 AM   #9
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I think the source of the rumors very likely could be found to originate from dealers asking $75k+ for a 5712 and $80k for a 5711.
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Old 12 January 2021, 08:48 AM   #10
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I think the source of the rumors very likely could be found to originate from dealers asking $75k+ for a 5712 and $80k for a 5711.
Bingo!
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Old 12 January 2021, 09:02 AM   #11
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I mean... so what if it’s discontinued? The 6000g was replaced by the 6006g and the look 99% identical. The Daytona 116520 was replaced by the 116500 and they look kinda similar except for the bezel. Old things get replaced by newer ones. I don’t see why we need to pay over the top money to buy something that’s about to be phased out.
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Old 12 January 2021, 09:48 AM   #12
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I mean... so what if itís discontinued? The 6000g was replaced by the 6006g and the look 99% identical. The Daytona 116520 was replaced by the 116500 and they look kinda similar except for the bezel. Old things get replaced by newer ones. I donít see why we need to pay over the top money to buy something thatís about to be phased out.
C'mon...what's with this common sense??!!

In today's market, up is down. Down is up. Discontinued means a 50% price increase!!!
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Old 12 January 2021, 10:09 AM   #13
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I believe this is a rumor about a rumor about a rumor.
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Old 13 January 2021, 01:29 AM   #14
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I think the source of the rumors very likely could be found to originate from dealers asking $75k+ for a 5712 and $80k for a 5711.
Can always expect a dealer to say something like "this model will pop it's getting discontinued soon"...smh
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Old 13 January 2021, 01:40 AM   #15
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Certainly had more of a run than the 3712. Can’t do much more to it movement wise. It’s perfect. But I think it may be time to call a day on it and introduce a new 5712 for limited time only. Then they can concentrate on ramping up the 5726 blue dia till it too is discontinued. An expansion of 5990 offering seems likely to help replace. (/speculation)
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Old 13 January 2021, 01:52 AM   #16
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agree with above, movement is serviceable well into the future.

would be a nice throw back if they returned to the monocoque case.
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Old 13 January 2021, 02:08 AM   #17
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By limited Ed. 5712 thinking of a full rose gold version for one or two years then done. Perfect way of ending a beautiful ref.
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Old 14 January 2021, 06:44 AM   #18
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Source is an official Patek dealer in Zurich.
Expected time is next year.
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Old 14 January 2021, 08:50 AM   #19
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There is a 5711 now online for 92K. Says its is unworn, but the market may sense something.
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Old 14 January 2021, 01:31 PM   #20
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There is a 5711 now online for 92K. Says its is unworn, but the market may sense something.
Same place has a 5712 with Tiffany on the dial for close to 200K. If someone buys it then thereís proof common sense has been discontinued.
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Old 14 January 2021, 02:05 PM   #21
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Same place has a 5712 with Tiffany on the dial for close to 200K. If someone buys it then thereís proof common sense has been discontinued.

Surprise...Itís EWC. Iím not trying to disparage these guys as they clearly take care of customers and have a great reputation. But honestly, I am dumbfounded as to who buys there. Their prices are, across the board, insane. On everything.


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Old 15 January 2021, 02:27 AM   #22
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Guys, mad or not if that price are there means someone buy. Maybe not exactly that much but in that ballpark.
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Old 15 January 2021, 02:38 AM   #23
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There is a 5711 now online for 92K. Says its is unworn, but the market may sense something.
If EWC knew that this specific watch is a rare transitional model manufactured for a few months only (old 324 movement but new dial) ...
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Old 15 January 2021, 05:38 AM   #24
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Crazy asking prices for a SS watch which is not better than Rolex Submariner. Good luck for Patek 57 lowers. 15202st looks bargain when compared to 5711.
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Old 16 January 2021, 01:12 AM   #25
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I just got my 5711 so I'am ok with it getting discontinued lol. But I've been hearing about this for 2 years now. I am sure they will update the movement.
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Old 16 January 2021, 04:11 AM   #26
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Crazy asking prices for a SS watch which is not better than Rolex Submariner. Good luck for Patek 57 lowers. 15202st looks bargain when compared to 5711.
Also 5167 looks like a bargain when compared to 5711....

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Old 16 January 2021, 10:37 AM   #27
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Also 5167 looks like a bargain when compared to 5711....


I agree with this, however itís hard to compare an Aquanaut vs. a Nautilus.
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Old 17 January 2021, 07:19 AM   #28
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I agree with this, however itís hard to compare an Aquanaut vs. a Nautilus.
you are right but do not underestimate aquanaut because when compared to the nautilus is considerably fresh design: way less 70s, more sporty, portable and light.
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Old 17 January 2021, 08:24 AM   #29
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When does PP normally announce the discontinued models? Is it expected also to happen this year?


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Old 17 January 2021, 01:40 PM   #30
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When does PP normally announce the discontinued models? Is it expected also to happen this year?


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Normally end of January, not sure what will happen this year
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