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Old 9 November 2019, 03:47 AM   #31
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Hey im 17 and going to try to enlist as a pilot in the millitary. I was curious if pilots (in airlines or private) use the functions of pilot watches to assist them in flying and in general what watch do you wear for flights. Thanks.
I wore my Citizen Wingman with E6B Bezel on my Private Checkride. I had my full size E6B between my leg and seat.

Examiner started asking me calculations while I was flying, I started using my watch E6B and he said, "Don't use that ridiculous tiny thing, use your real E6B".

Before my checkride, I did find my watch E6B useful.

As a Private VFR, I honestly would find the Sub Elapsed Time Ring more useful than the GMT Zulu Indication. JMO
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Old 9 November 2019, 06:43 AM   #32
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Thanks you! This is very interesting. Any advice for me or certain things to remember?
If you want to make a career out of it you wont have a life for the first 10 years or so. So have to study hard and buckle down early and stay out of any trouble you may have to explain later on. Its very competitive and the Airlines only pick the best of what they consider the best.

I know my military counter parts told me the real top guys (top 10%) got there pick on what to fly. Almost all went into the fighters. The lower tiered guys got what was left and that was the transport type aircraft which is exactly what the Airlines fly. You can guess who had a easier time transitioning to the airlines.

However to take nothing away from the top guns they come around after a few years and also make excellent Airline Pilots. Even though some have pretty big egos.
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Old 9 November 2019, 07:00 AM   #33
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I'm pursuing the ppl and ratings also as a hobby. I've been obsessed with aviation since childhood, sort of like watches.

Not much can be added to what the others said but it pretty much comes down to personal preference. I like having something with historical significance simply because I enjoy that. The GMT is great but having more features is appealing and even useful at times.



A Casio is also an excellent choice for functionality and it's what my instructor wore.

Enjoy this amazing journey and keep the thoughts or advice given in mind for the future

I watch this channel a lot and it's been really helpful. His journey has been rather interesting!

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Old 9 November 2019, 07:35 AM   #34
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Go ahead and laugh, I used to shoot ADF approaches to a radio station in Pensacola Florida in primary training. I think Orville Wright was one of my instructors.
I’m not laughing - I’m impressed!

The last time I did an ADF approach was on my IFR checkride too long ago to want to remember. Anyone that could make sense of an ADF approach - with a crosswind - is far better than I ;-)

The ADF isn’t even mentioned in today’s simulator-based training.
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Old 9 November 2019, 10:37 AM   #35
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You will never use any of the features. Any watch will do. Garmin watches are a bit functional. But a watch with an e6b is useless
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Old 9 November 2019, 11:44 AM   #36
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Pilots are officers. They don’t enlist, they get commissioned and take an oath of office.

Then, they should promptly go out and buy a GMT Master II Pepsi. Rolex should IMO guarantee a Pepsi at MSRP for any person who can prove they are a commercial or military pilot. Military pilots should be able to change the bracelet for a brushed oyster bracelet with Glidelock.


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Old 9 November 2019, 11:51 AM   #37
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Paul, you would be bored at “Positive rate, gear up.” Seems all the real ‘flying’ gets done in the simulator.
Yeah the flying can be boring but that just means it's a good day! Flying the Viper was easier than my airliner. Employment was where things got tricky.
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Old 10 November 2019, 07:28 PM   #38
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Would anyone mind enlightening us non-flyboys what an E6B is please?
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Old 10 November 2019, 10:38 PM   #39
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Its a circular slide ruler. Kinda like the outer dial of a Breitling Navitimer.
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Old 11 November 2019, 02:19 AM   #40
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Would anyone mind enlightening us non-flyboys what an E6B is please?
An out dated slide rule that just won't die. There are flight computers (essentially calculators) that are faster easier and more accurate, yet for some reason pilots are still trained on a silly slide rule that nobody uses operationally.
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Old 11 November 2019, 03:30 AM   #41
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I was taught and used an EA-6B in Navy flight school back in 1984. I can’t believe some still use that abacus.
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Old 11 November 2019, 03:45 AM   #42
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Thanks very much for these replies.

Can I assume that it is used to calculate required fuel for given conditions?

Thanks again.
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Old 11 November 2019, 05:16 AM   #43
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Thanks very much for these replies.

Can I assume that it is used to calculate required fuel for given conditions?

Thanks again.
Many airplanes cannot hold full fuel loads, max passengers, and max payload, all at the same time, so you need to know what to leave home.

It will help you calculate fuel load at given fuel burn to get to the next waypoint/fuel stop.

It will also help you calculate density altitude to know if you can get off the ground with your load. The backside has a wind calculator to help fly a straight line too.

These are pretty handy to know

Now days they make a digital version, like everything else
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Old 11 November 2019, 05:47 AM   #44
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Old 11 November 2019, 07:47 AM   #45
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Many airplanes cannot hold full fuel loads, max passengers, and max payload, all at the same time, so you need to know what to leave home.

It will help you calculate fuel load at given fuel burn to get to the next waypoint/fuel stop.

It will also help you calculate density altitude to know if you can get off the ground with your load. The backside has a wind calculator to help fly a straight line too.

These are pretty handy to know

Now days they make a digital version, like everything else
Thanks very much for this.

Is this the same info which can be calculated on the Navitimer watches?
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Old 11 November 2019, 11:26 PM   #46
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Thanks very much for these replies.

Can I assume that it is used to calculate required fuel for given conditions?

Thanks again.
It's more for conversions, like statute miles to nautical miles, litres to kilos, gallons to pounds.

One side does wind calculations to work out headings and speed for a given wind. All flight school stuff that you need an understanding of, but will never use again.
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Old 11 November 2019, 11:37 PM   #47
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I'm a pilot and sold or gave away all my rolexes, I'm pretty much all AP now. I got tired of seeing all the pilots wearing oyster case rolexes. Never used an E6b on a watch either. It's just too small to be usable.
This. The text is too small to really read the "whiz wheel". I have used the GMT function on watches while traveling as a passenger, and I've used my countdown bezel to monitor time. But, really, much of that was me wanting to use the features on the watch.

I'd say this: there is a reason many of the old pilots' watches are the size of saucers: it is hard to read anything small while in the aircraft.

Don't let that stop you from getting a "pilot's watch" - and, most of all, have fun getting your license
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Old 12 November 2019, 02:43 AM   #48
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Speaking of robust watches, I have this Holton Professional military and it’s field ready. Absolute tank! Highly recommend over the G-shock.

Laszlo, I see my next watch purchase, and once again, it won’t be a Rolex. Beautiful watch.
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Old 12 November 2019, 04:09 AM   #49
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Laszlo, I see my next watch purchase, and once again, it won’t be a Rolex. Beautiful watch.
+1 Great looking watch!
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:31 AM   #50
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I'm a pilot, and I find a GMT function to be very useful. So much, in fact, that every watch I own has this function. I also have a Navitimer and I find all sorts of uses for the E6B function. When I lived overseas I normally had it set to the exchange rate, so I could calculate purchases in a familiar currency.
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Old 1 February 2020, 01:09 PM   #51
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Damm I was good looking... I wonder what happened?
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Old 1 February 2020, 07:34 PM   #52
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Damm I was good looking... I wonder what happened?
You haven’t aged one bit... still looking razor sharp!


OP, I flew medical evacuation & search and rescue all fixed wings. My territory was typically rough terrain and mountain flying. Ground to map and grid navigation was my best friend so my watch served 2 key purposes:
  • Timing legs / segments - so a good chrono or large seconds display helped me
  • Set a heading on watch for Nav reference

Like most, as a pilot, couldn’t afford anything fancy so I wore a Casio for most of my flying career.

Good luck!
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Old 2 February 2020, 01:43 AM   #53
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Old 2 February 2020, 01:55 AM   #54
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Rolex Polar Explorer 2 is good. Or...a Citizen Satellite wave eco drive. yes...they are that good.
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Old 2 February 2020, 02:57 AM   #55
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I like a sub like watch with outer movable minute scale for timing fuel. Good luck with your flying!!
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I did a little bit of flying, I wore a Casio over Iraq, a GMT other times. It was more of a status thing then a tool.
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Old 26 February 2020, 02:09 PM   #57
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Old 26 February 2020, 04:38 PM   #58
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If you are trying to go the military route then you will need a college degree. Then you do not enlist. You get commissioned and you become an officer. A GMT is nice to have since so much is done in Zulu time. But it is definitely not needed. It is pretty easy to remember how far behind or ahead of Zulu time you are. Plus once you start flight school you will have a lot more to focus on with flying than what time zone your watch tells you.
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Old 26 February 2020, 10:07 PM   #59
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If you are trying to go the military route then you will need a college degree.


You probably missed that the OP lives in Israel and is 17 years old. Therefore, that isn’t true.

Potential Israeli pilots are identified prior to reporting for national service at age 18, so that’s why the OP mentioned military option.

The Israeli Air Force Flight Academy selects teens via factors such as high grades in school, top scores on standardized tests, excellent physical condition and high technical aptitude. Those who meet these and other criteria are invited to participate in a six-day selection phase involving physical, mental, and sociometric challenges.

After training they are committed to a 7-year hitch. Very tough process - less than 10% succeed.


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You probably missed that the OP lives in Israel and is 17 years old. Therefore, that isn’t true.

Potential Israeli pilots are identified prior to reporting for national service at age 18, so that’s why the OP mentioned military option.

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Sure enough, I did in fact miss that part. Thanks for the heads up.
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