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NYG1121 · 21 August 2021, 03:53 AM

I have always loved the look of Patek world time watches. I think they are so classy and have such a unique look compared to the other references in the catalog, especially because of the dial. I tried on the newer 5230R version which has a really proportionate case size dimensions and the movement is absolutely gorgeous!

Any thoughts as to why these sit in the cases and don't seem to have the same demand? I understand the limitations of the world time complication not being able to do half time zones or daylight savings. But it just seems strange to me that these trade at a "relative" discount and it is quite tempting to pick one up. Thoughts welcomed!

jon_jon · 21 August 2021, 04:13 AM

Patek WT watches are definitely under-appreciated watches. I own several WTs and they are beautiful watches. Saying they don't account for daylight savings time is just an excuse. If you really want to know the time, our phones give more accurate time than most watches. Watches are more collectible items and are unlike technology that gets outdated every few years that we discard to get the latest tech items.

As you know the thin 240 movement with the micro-rotor does not have a seconds watch in this watch. But if you really wanted to know the time to the exact second, once again better way to check the time.

If you like the 5230R, I say go for it

Benzsiam · 21 August 2021, 04:28 AM

I think most people preferred simple not clutter dial.

World time dial looks too busy to me.

2nastie · 21 August 2021, 04:35 AM

I would love to add a Patek world time to my collection, but that would likely be when I can accumulate several other Patek's to my collection. It's nice to have watch but mainly in a deeper collection.

P1nky_Up · 21 August 2021, 05:26 AM

The 5230G was my first Patek. I love it. My only issue with it is it doesn’t have a date function, but totally understand why. It’s an awesome watch. Buy it and enjoy.

Rrpdc · 21 August 2021, 05:41 AM

No date and small case size is the problem for me.

ts3 · 21 August 2021, 06:34 AM

I like Patek WT watches as pieces of art rather than for being particularly useful. However, the grey center ruins 5230R for me. I prefer the 5110 series over the 5230s but their 5231J sibling is a different story altogether.

uniqueMR · 21 August 2021, 07:22 AM

Its beautiful piece. Must have.
Plus I love busy dials :)

Ichiran · 21 August 2021, 10:25 AM

I really like the enamelling in the 5231J. Perfect watch that.

alpharulez · 21 August 2021, 10:55 AM

Lovely watches. I have been eyeing a older version WT without the big bulbous hands!

Would recommend taking a look at the VC Worldtimers which show more zones though they end up being a little bit more busier.

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Pw92676 · 21 August 2021, 12:17 PM

IMO I like the 5110 more due to hands. It’s a nice pickup at used. I personally would do this than buy 5230 at retail.

newonos · 22 August 2021, 01:10 AM

WT is the one PP I want. I love it.

pam66 · 22 August 2021, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

I really like the enamelling in the 5231J. Perfect watch that.

newest incoming

NYG1121 · 22 August 2021, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pam66

newest incoming

So stunning!!!! Congrats

Ichiran · 22 August 2021, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pam66

newest incoming

Wow congratulations!

uniqueMR · 22 August 2021, 01:06 PM

Congrats :) :)

EUguy · 22 August 2021, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pam66

newest incoming

What an amazing watch! Huge congrats!! Enjoy wearing it.

pam66 · 22 August 2021, 08:43 PM

thanks friends!!!

erredi7734 · 23 August 2021, 11:53 AM

Just got mine!
A PP -WT is a must have. One of the complications PP does better.
I find the 5230 well balanced and intriguing. Movement Finishing on par with competitors, overall good value for money l, imho

NYG1121 · 23 August 2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by erredi7734

Just got mine!
A PP -WT is a must have. One of the complications PP does better.
I find the 5230 well balanced and intriguing. Movement Finishing on par with competitors, overall good value for money l, imho

Congrats! Pics would be great!!

7sins · 23 August 2021, 01:08 PM

I've always been a big fan of the 5930G, I think the WT, just like most of Patek's dress watches are out of favor due to the sports steel bracelet demand. Perhaps when more of us are back in suits the demand for dress watches will also pickup.

vitalsigns · 23 August 2021, 02:14 PM

Buy for the emotion not the functionality. Modern PP world timers always seem compromised functionally. So many other manufacturers have been able to account for daylight savings time. PP can't be bothered. And why, if the watches sell anyway?

Russell996 · 23 August 2021, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vitalsigns

Buy for the emotion not the functionality. Modern PP world timers always seem compromised functionally. So many other manufacturers have been able to account for daylight savings time. PP can't be bothered. And why, if the watches sell anyway?

Not really true, they are all extremely compromised

vitalsigns · 23 August 2021, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

Not really true, they are all extremely compromised

There are some that account for daylight savings time. The JLC Geophysic, for example.

Russell996 · 24 August 2021, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vitalsigns

There are some that account for daylight savings time. The JLC Geophysic, for example.

Yes but daylight saving isn't consistent around the world so even if everything is 100% correct on the dial (which it can only be for the cities shown on the dial and assuming they haven't changed DLS which happens quite frequently) it is still inaccurate twice a year when some places have implemented daylight saving and others have yet to do so. I love the WorldTime complication but at best it is only a rough guide no matter who makes it.

vitalsigns · 24 August 2021, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

it is still inaccurate twice a year when some places have implemented daylight saving and others have yet to do so.

Sure, but I will take a couple weeks inaccuracy twice a year over inaccuracy over 1/2 the year. In a rotation of watches, not a big deal. But a world time that is askew for 1/2 the year or more?

I take your point, though, nothing mechanical will be perfect in this regard...so buy for emotion rather than technical accuracy.

Cheers

NYG1121 · 28 August 2021, 04:55 AM

Getting close guys. Are the days of discounts from Patek dealers over for pretty much anything? I am quoted MSRP at one AD.. heading to the other this weekend..

2nastie · 28 August 2021, 05:02 AM

Mine has been no discounts for a while now... frankly a lack of inventory in general and its a "boutique."

jon_jon · 28 August 2021, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG1121

Getting close guys. Are the days of discounts from Patek dealers over for pretty much anything? I am quoted MSRP at one AD.. heading to the other this weekend..

Discount varies depending on the market. Many large metro area ADs will say no discount. You can always start calling around and ask for availability outside your immediate area.

NYG1121 · 30 August 2021, 06:39 AM

Came close but didnt pull the trigger yet. Truly is gorgeous in person!

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21 August 2021, 03:53 AM	#1
NYG1121 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NE Posts: 2,767	5230 World Time I have always loved the look of Patek world time watches. I think they are so classy and have such a unique look compared to the other references in the catalog, especially because of the dial. I tried on the newer 5230R version which has a really proportionate case size dimensions and the movement is absolutely gorgeous! Any thoughts as to why these sit in the cases and don't seem to have the same demand? I understand the limitations of the world time complication not being able to do half time zones or daylight savings. But it just seems strange to me that these trade at a "relative" discount and it is quite tempting to pick one up. Thoughts welcomed! __________________ Instagram @awristcheck

21 August 2021, 04:28 AM	#3
Benzsiam 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS Posts: 5,922	I think most people preferred simple not clutter dial. World time dial looks too busy to me. __________________ Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D. Audemars Piguet: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) Patek Philippe: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996", Seiko: SRPA21,

21 August 2021, 07:22 AM	#8
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23 August 2021, 01:08 PM	#21
7sins "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: B. Location: Beverly Hills, CA Posts: 3,340	I've always been a big fan of the 5930G, I think the WT, just like most of Patek's dress watches are out of favor due to the sports steel bracelet demand. Perhaps when more of us are back in suits the demand for dress watches will also pickup. __________________ Richard Mille RG RM030 \|\| Richard Mille RM72ti \|\| AP 26240 50TH Green Royal Oak Chrono \|\| AP Royal Oak Blue JUMBO SS 15202ST \|\| AP ROO Diver Green 15720ST \|\| ♕ Rolex Platinum Daytona Diamond 116506 \|\| Cartier Santos

21 August 2021, 04:13 AM	#2
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,341	Patek WT watches are definitely under-appreciated watches. I own several WTs and they are beautiful watches. Saying they don't account for daylight savings time is just an excuse. If you really want to know the time, our phones give more accurate time than most watches. Watches are more collectible items and are unlike technology that gets outdated every few years that we discard to get the latest tech items. As you know the thin 240 movement with the micro-rotor does not have a seconds watch in this watch. But if you really wanted to know the time to the exact second, once again better way to check the time. If you like the 5230R, I say go for it

21 August 2021, 04:35 AM	#4
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	I would love to add a Patek world time to my collection, but that would likely be when I can accumulate several other Patek's to my collection. It's nice to have watch but mainly in a deeper collection.

21 August 2021, 05:26 AM	#5
P1nky_Up "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Virginia Posts: 576	The 5230G was my first Patek. I love it. My only issue with it is it doesn’t have a date function, but totally understand why. It’s an awesome watch. Buy it and enjoy.

21 August 2021, 05:41 AM	#6
Rrpdc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dc Posts: 2,002	No date and small case size is the problem for me.

21 August 2021, 06:34 AM	#7
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,236	I like Patek WT watches as pieces of art rather than for being particularly useful. However, the grey center ruins 5230R for me. I prefer the 5110 series over the 5230s but their 5231J sibling is a different story altogether.

21 August 2021, 10:25 AM	#9
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,624	I really like the enamelling in the 5231J. Perfect watch that.

21 August 2021, 10:55 AM	#10
alpharulez "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: UK Watch: Assorted! Posts: 696	Lovely watches. I have been eyeing a older version WT without the big bulbous hands! Would recommend taking a look at the VC Worldtimers which show more zones though they end up being a little bit more busier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 August 2021, 12:17 PM	#11
Pw92676 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 6,132	IMO I like the 5110 more due to hands. It’s a nice pickup at used. I personally would do this than buy 5230 at retail.

22 August 2021, 01:10 AM	#12
newonos "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: usa Posts: 135	WT is the one PP I want. I love it.

22 August 2021, 08:43 PM	#18
pam66 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: cambridge Posts: 2,257	thanks friends!!!

23 August 2021, 11:53 AM	#19
erredi7734 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: D Location: Us/Italy Watch: DB28, MB&F LM1 Posts: 91	Just got mine! A PP -WT is a must have. One of the complications PP does better. I find the 5230 well balanced and intriguing. Movement Finishing on par with competitors, overall good value for money l, imho

23 August 2021, 02:14 PM	#22
vitalsigns "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: USA Posts: 513	Buy for the emotion not the functionality. Modern PP world timers always seem compromised functionally. So many other manufacturers have been able to account for daylight savings time. PP can't be bothered. And why, if the watches sell anyway?

28 August 2021, 04:55 AM	#27
NYG1121 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NE Posts: 2,767	Getting close guys. Are the days of discounts from Patek dealers over for pretty much anything? I am quoted MSRP at one AD.. heading to the other this weekend.. __________________ Instagram @awristcheck

28 August 2021, 05:02 AM	#28
2nastie "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: YVR Watch: Time Only Posts: 2,332	Mine has been no discounts for a while now... frankly a lack of inventory in general and its a "boutique."

30 August 2021, 06:39 AM	#30
NYG1121 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NE Posts: 2,767	Came close but didnt pull the trigger yet. Truly is gorgeous in person! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram @awristcheck

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