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Rollieo · 19 November 2021, 02:56 PM

I’m trying to gauge the difference in mechanical issues between Patek and AP. I did a poll over in the AP sub forum. I know it’s not too many people and hard to compare these numbers, but it would be interesting nonetheless

If you own a Patek, can you state whether you’ve brought it into service due to a mechanical issue within the first 5 years of ownership?

enricotambunan · 19 November 2021, 03:57 PM

Both my AP and PP are long overdue for a service. Was due in 2019 but since Covid, even the AD’s recommend that I wait until pandemic ends. Because they had to send the watch back to Swiss. Cant be done here

Oh but no issues on both watches. Aside from gaining/losing time. Dunno by how much. I rarely wear them since lock down

Yobrooks · 20 November 2021, 10:22 PM

Not at all. My pateks, all with the 324... movement, have been as close to perfection as I could have expected.

1William · 20 November 2021, 11:08 PM

No personal PP experience but the one of the keys to ownership is patience in the service process according to a local PP AD.

brandrea · 20 November 2021, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1William

No personal PP experience but the one of the keys to ownership is patience in the service process according to a local PP AD.

Indeed, have heard the same.

italiafan · 21 November 2021, 12:15 AM

Yes. 5726/1a AC.
The month dial got stuck between two months during first year of ownership.
Went into service for ~6 weeks.
Covered under warranty.

ts3 · 21 November 2021, 04:51 AM

Yup. My 5711 blue ran up to 10s slow depending on position at night. Decided to get it regulated before the warranty expired. All good. Took about 4 weeks and since it has been running 2s slow. Most importantly, the local Patek Service Center did not mess up the case in the process.

subtona · 21 November 2021, 05:15 AM

Yes. Manual wind chrono after 4 years.

Service has been above expectations in my experience.

pb2au · 21 November 2021, 07:28 AM

Date wheel on my 5980 went on me within two years of last service. It got stuck and I could not advance it with the pushers.

nickcpl · 21 November 2021, 10:03 AM

No issues with mine.

Chute · 21 November 2021, 10:38 AM

No issues with my Patek but I’ve only owned them for less than 2 years.

I did buy an AP 15400ST Black back in 2016 and it has needed two services for running slow then an issue with the date wheel.
AP Clearwater was great and paid for shipping both ways and both services were covered by warranty. But it gives me the impression the movement isn’t as durable as a Rolex.

Chute · 21 November 2021, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 1William

No personal PP experience but the one of the keys to ownership is patience in the service process according to a local PP AD.

Patience is something most Patek owners are probably all too familiar with.

GB-man · 21 November 2021, 11:30 AM

Yes but only for dial imperfections. Rather significant none the less.

I have had movement issues with probably half the AP I’ve owned but AP fixes them in 3-4 weeks whereas PP seems to take longer.

subtona · 21 November 2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Yes but only for dial imperfections. Rather significant none the less.

I have had movement issues with probably half the AP I’ve owned but AP fixes them in 3-4 weeks whereas PP seems to take longer.

First was a dial issue second was movement.

Dial took several months.
Movement issue, surprisingly was resolved in less than two months for me.

321Forever · 21 November 2021, 02:55 PM

My 2014 5167 was running slow within the first 6 months. Dropped it off at HS NYC and they did a fast service (maybe a month? I forget). They reported that there was debris in the movement.

Rollieo · 21 November 2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Yes but only for dial imperfections. Rather significant none the less.

I have had movement issues with probably half the AP I’ve owned but AP fixes them in 3-4 weeks whereas PP seems to take longer.

Movement issues on half the APs you’ve owned?! That is crazy

George58 · 21 November 2021, 08:12 PM

pp aqua no issues one service in 21 years

GB-man · 21 November 2021, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollieo

Movement issues on half the APs you’ve owned?! That is crazy

Yeah they got rid of the DD module chrono since thank god. It was always causing trouble. I also had a sticking date 15202. Honestly I can accept issues if they are ironed out in a month. Comes with the territory when you buy anything not a Rolex or seiko lol

GB-man · 21 November 2021, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by subtona

First was a dial issue second was movement.

Dial took several months.
Movement issue, surprisingly was resolved in less than two months for me.

Some of you may recall my 5711 went in for having badly aligned 12 o’clock hash marks and came back a month later with a missing 9 minute dot lol

hartenfels · 22 November 2021, 02:37 AM

5167 - sticking date after 2 years of occasional wear. Took 6 weeks to fix it.

subtona · 22 November 2021, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Some of you may recall my 5711 went in for having badly aligned 12 o’clock hash marks and came back a month later with a missing 9 minute dot lol

037 · 22 November 2021, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Some of you may recall my 5711 went in for having badly aligned 12 o’clock hash marks and came back a month later with a missing 9 minute dot lol

But at least the 12 o'clock markers were spot-on.

GB-man · 22 November 2021, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 037

But at least the 12 o'clock markers were spot-on.

Yeah they hit the nail on the head with that.

GSDLover · 22 November 2021, 08:27 AM

5205 owner. After one year, it was running 35 seconds fast a day. It went in for service and now is very accurate.
Just short of 4 years, the month wheel is off.
In my opinion, ridiculous.

Neom · 22 November 2021, 03:37 PM

Won't vote as I don't own a Patek yet but have never sent any of my watches for service ever (Baume et Mercier, AP 15400, Breitling chronomat 44b01, rolex yachtmaster, cartier santos from 1990 and iwc mark xviii). The date gets occasionally stuck on the BM and the cartier and BM occasionally run a bit fast but it doesn't really bother me.

IS2000 · 24 November 2021, 04:32 PM

Had a date stuck issue on my 5711 right before the warranty expired. It took them 8 weeks to fix but a full service was included.

KBM · 25 November 2021, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Yeah they hit the nail on the head with that.

I had an issue with my 5905p in the first month, but AD was stellar and replaced it with a brand new watch.

zewill · 25 November 2021, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by IS2000

Had a date stuck issue on my 5711 right before the warranty expired. It took them 8 weeks to fix but a full service was included.

Dodged a bullet there… a few days difference would’ve been pricy. Wonder how much pricier…

scurfa · 25 November 2021, 09:51 PM

I had the date issue three times in the warranty period on my 5711, Patek had the watch more than I did

leisen · 28 November 2021, 03:10 AM

Manual winding Calatrava. Mainspring broken after 10 years but it had been worn only once or twice a year. I wound the watch from time to time.

View Poll Results: Have you brought your Patek into service within the first 5 years due to an issue?
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19 November 2021, 02:56 PM	#1
Rollieo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,012	Have you brought your Patek into service within the first 5 years due to an issue? I’m trying to gauge the difference in mechanical issues between Patek and AP. I did a poll over in the AP sub forum. I know it’s not too many people and hard to compare these numbers, but it would be interesting nonetheless If you own a Patek, can you state whether you’ve brought it into service due to a mechanical issue within the first 5 years of ownership?

19 November 2021, 03:57 PM	#2
enricotambunan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: sydney - jakarta Posts: 191	Have you brought your Patek into service within the first 5 years due to an issue? Both my AP and PP are long overdue for a service. Was due in 2019 but since Covid, even the AD’s recommend that I wait until pandemic ends. Because they had to send the watch back to Swiss. Cant be done here Oh but no issues on both watches. Aside from gaining/losing time. Dunno by how much. I rarely wear them since lock down

21 November 2021, 05:15 AM	#8
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	Yes. Manual wind chrono after 4 years. Service has been above expectations in my experience. __________________

21 November 2021, 11:30 AM	#13
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	Yes but only for dial imperfections. Rather significant none the less. I have had movement issues with probably half the AP I’ve owned but AP fixes them in 3-4 weeks whereas PP seems to take longer. __________________

20 November 2021, 10:22 PM	#3
Yobrooks "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Philly, USA Watch: PP Posts: 537	Not at all. My pateks, all with the 324... movement, have been as close to perfection as I could have expected.

20 November 2021, 11:08 PM	#4
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,671	No personal PP experience but the one of the keys to ownership is patience in the service process according to a local PP AD.

21 November 2021, 12:15 AM	#6
italiafan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Earth Posts: 226	Yes. 5726/1a AC. The month dial got stuck between two months during first year of ownership. Went into service for ~6 weeks. Covered under warranty.

21 November 2021, 04:51 AM	#7
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,227	Yup. My 5711 blue ran up to 10s slow depending on position at night. Decided to get it regulated before the warranty expired. All good. Took about 4 weeks and since it has been running 2s slow. Most importantly, the local Patek Service Center did not mess up the case in the process.

21 November 2021, 07:28 AM	#9
pb2au "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Sanj Location: Toronto, Canada Watch: Depends on day Posts: 347	Date wheel on my 5980 went on me within two years of last service. It got stuck and I could not advance it with the pushers.

21 November 2021, 10:03 AM	#10
nickcpl "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: UK Posts: 8	No issues with mine.

21 November 2021, 10:38 AM	#11
Chute "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Austin Watch: 6 digit Rolex+APRO Posts: 1,532	No issues with my Patek but I’ve only owned them for less than 2 years. I did buy an AP 15400ST Black back in 2016 and it has needed two services for running slow then an issue with the date wheel. AP Clearwater was great and paid for shipping both ways and both services were covered by warranty. But it gives me the impression the movement isn’t as durable as a Rolex.

21 November 2021, 02:55 PM	#15
321Forever 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Orange County, CA Watch: SD43 Posts: 442	My 2014 5167 was running slow within the first 6 months. Dropped it off at HS NYC and they did a fast service (maybe a month? I forget). They reported that there was debris in the movement.

21 November 2021, 08:12 PM	#17
George58 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Home Watch: Patek Aquanaut Posts: 837	pp aqua no issues one service in 21 years

22 November 2021, 02:37 AM	#20
hartenfels "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 27	5167 - sticking date after 2 years of occasional wear. Took 6 weeks to fix it.

22 November 2021, 08:27 AM	#24
GSDLover "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Florida Watch: Patek 5205r-010 Posts: 638	5205 owner. After one year, it was running 35 seconds fast a day. It went in for service and now is very accurate. Just short of 4 years, the month wheel is off. In my opinion, ridiculous.

22 November 2021, 03:37 PM	#25
Neom Banned Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: . Posts: 134	Won't vote as I don't own a Patek yet but have never sent any of my watches for service ever (Baume et Mercier, AP 15400, Breitling chronomat 44b01, rolex yachtmaster, cartier santos from 1990 and iwc mark xviii). The date gets occasionally stuck on the BM and the cartier and BM occasionally run a bit fast but it doesn't really bother me.

24 November 2021, 04:32 PM	#26
IS2000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Mark Location: Thailand Watch: Rolex,PP,AP, PAM Posts: 128	Had a date stuck issue on my 5711 right before the warranty expired. It took them 8 weeks to fix but a full service was included.

25 November 2021, 09:51 PM	#29
scurfa "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sunderland Posts: 1,254	I had the date issue three times in the warranty period on my 5711, Patek had the watch more than I did __________________ Instagram @scurfawatches

28 November 2021, 03:10 AM	#30
leisen "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Spain Posts: 247	Manual winding Calatrava. Mainspring broken after 10 years but it had been worn only once or twice a year. I wound the watch from time to time.

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