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15 October 2017, 11:45 AM | #1 |
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Patek Philippe Calatrava 5196G on my mind
I went to Tiffany & Co to view a 5196G today. Wow! Such a simple, beautiful, elegant watch. I wasn't totally sold on the Tiffany & Co stamp, so I am still trying to decide if I should purchase this one or go through a local AD that I would like to establish a continuing relationship with. Any 5196 lovers out there?
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15 October 2017, 11:58 AM | #2 |
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I’m pretty sure Govberg carries it. Here is their website- www.wearecrooks.com
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Just depends on if you love the dial with the stamp.
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15 October 2017, 12:03 PM | #4 |
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Love it!
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15 October 2017, 12:04 PM | #5 |
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In all seriousness skip the stamp. Not worth the premium. Especially on a production piece. If limited edition- maybe...
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Thanks for the encouragement and pictures RUK and MoosicPa!
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I inquired about this with Govberg directly. They said they had a regular production 5196 in stock, previously owned by a Tiffany. Claimed this made it LE as it was still 'Tiffany stamped' and wanted $50k. Sounds legit.
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15 October 2017, 12:36 PM | #14 |
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I used to know a girl named Tiffany. Tiffany Govberg. I think her dad is in jail.
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15 October 2017, 12:46 PM | #16 |
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Yep, $22,000, which I believe is list. I am not sure what my local AD can offer as far as price. I imagine I can save 3% by funding the purchase with cash, check, or bank transfer. Do ADs typically discount Calatrava models? 5%-10%?
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15 October 2017, 12:50 PM | #17 |
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I’ve never shopped for this watch but 10-15% should not be unreasonable.
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15 October 2017, 12:55 PM | #18 |
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i honestly like the stamping on this piece, with it falling within the subdial. I dont like it on the 5296 but love it on the 5396 within the complication. I also like it on the 5164 nestled right under "geneve". There are obviously less stamped models, it just depends on if you want the exclusivity for 2k |
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Patek Philippe Calatrava 5196G on my mind
Love the simplicity and beauty of the 5196. It’s the perfect looking dial.
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15 October 2017, 02:53 PM | #20 |
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I know I sound like a broken record but they need to make this piece in a 42mm case. Talk about attracting a younger clientele.
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Technical issues aside, I think the dress watch segment is better served in sizes less than 40mm, but that's just my opinion of course. |
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Edit*- just saw Tony's post, agree on all counts |
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15 October 2017, 11:08 PM | #23 |
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Beautiful watch. Dear Patek, please never even consider enlarging this model beyond 38 or 39 mm max (and even in that case, a full new movement would be required).
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I have been shopping for the exact same reference. My AD offered it to me for $18,500 so you defintely should not need to pay list price.
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15 October 2017, 11:56 PM | #25 |
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All the same negative comments about the 5522 and 5524. Watch too big, movement too small. This piece would sell like hot cakes in a larder size. I know I’m in the minority and that’s ok but I’m right. :)
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At first, I feared the current 37mm would be too large for a classic dress watch. That said, I was pleasantly surprised when I tried on the watch and found it to be a good match for my 17.5 cm wrist. For someone with traditionalist tendencies and isn't interested in owning vintage watches, the current 5196 appears to be somewhat ideal. I imagine there's an audience for a larger version as well. |
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JLC made their Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds (a fairly identical watch to the 5196) in 38.5mm and 40mm. I've seen both/put both on the wrist. The 40mm just looks out of proportion, and an even larger 42mm would look clownish IMO. It's just too much space for what it is. Plus, lighter dials give the illusion that they're bigger than their darker counterparts. |
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5522 5524 5905 5168 You want a younger crowd- bring more 42mm watches to the market. |
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I have had many cordial, professional and fair transactions with Govberg, including the purchase of a Patek Calatrava. I wonder if all the naysayers have had a bad personal experience with them.
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....all sporty pieces.... I believe the masses (even younger 'watch' guys) agree that a dress piece should never be the same size as his sport watch. but hey, we can both have our opinion. Patek drops a 42mm basic Calatrava and it sells out, I'll eat my words. |
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