Are we witnessing a silent resurgence of the dress watch?

[kanwind]

really good discussion
I am from Hong Kong that the hot and wet weather make it is not easy to wear dress watch from in and out
but i used to wear my 5320 and 5056 as my daily watch as i used to wear suit in daily working office
I only wear 5712 or rolex when holiday

[djona]

Originally Posted by RollinMoses

As another father of young kids I think they are very valid considerations - mine are 1 and 3 and bath time, nappy changes, etc do make you think about what you reach for from the watch box. Also I do think it depends on how and if you are dressing for work, etc.

That said, this weekend I put on a dress shirt just to be able to wear my VC ultra-fine 1955 and today I put on my 5196r to wear around the house (5196 is actually a very versatile piece in my view and does just as well with jeans and a t-shirt as it does with a suit).

The watch I have found that suits my lifestyle overall though is the VC Overseas on a rubber strap. It is my do anything watch and it feels at home. An aquanaut would cover the same ground if I could have gotten one.

In summary I would say that I am finding a lot more time for dress watches in my life, but it is a conscious effort and has some restrictions. I think the really watch of the moment is one that straddles that boundary of robust, sporting and refined. Of the major names, I think the royal oak is the one in most danger as it is the least practical as a daily wear, despite being a “sports watch”.

What size are your wrists? I love the way my 5196 wears on my ~6.3” wrist. I’ve been thinking about picking up the VC 7900 dual time but am almost certain it’ll wear too large and thick.

[QuelleHeureEstIl]

Originally Posted by kanwind

really good discussion
I am from Hong Kong that the hot and wet weather make it is not easy to wear dress watch from in and out

Totally agree! I would love a classic watch on holiday, but bracelet/strap are an issue in these climates.
Unfortunately in Switzerland and Europe, people are not used to hot-humid climate and cannot understand the discomfort of a leather strap.

It would be fantastic to be able to buy original composite straps RM/VC overseas/Aquanaut style.

[SDDS]

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[Murcielagoboy2]

Originally Posted by SDDS

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Love it.
Red strap/Black dial works a treat!

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by SDDS

What a lovely strap.

Where's it from?

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by SDDS

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Looks like an s63 on your wrist. Magnificent

[SDDS]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

What a lovely strap.

Where's it from?

Originally Posted by GB-man

Looks like an s63 on your wrist. Magnificent

Originally Posted by Murcielagoboy2

Love it.
Red strap/Black dial works a treat!

thank you guys for your sweet comments, the strap is custom from PP

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

The hype kids only care about which watches mimic crypto's rise because they want to invest in watches.

The hype kids don't wear watches. They use their iPhone and Apple Watch.

Not sure that’s true, rarely seen as many gold say dates in one place as on crypto conferences, same is true for Genta stuff

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Congratulations in advance Fred

Very belated thanks my friend, sorry I missed this one, halfway into the wait now, bought an FPJ to hold me over :) still can’t wait.

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by uniqueMR

Its too early to say.
I am in my 30s and love sport watches over dressies.

But you have a 5370 in your avatar, so I don’t doubt there’s some level of appreciation there

[Nav01L]

So the other day I had Mike Manjos on with his market update show on YouTube that I enjoy occasionally. As I was walking the dog with the phone in my pocket and the AirPods in, it auto played the next video - one with the ever hyperventilating Tim Mosso. Opened with 2022 will be the year of the dress watch, before I cut the video off (as well informed as he is, I find the guy is really hard to listen to for more than a minute). Hear hear, I thought. If you discount the Tiffany blue 5711, the EoY auctions also pointed this way.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

Not sure that’s true, rarely seen as many gold say dates in one place as on crypto conferences, same is true for Genta stuff

Only you and I think day dates are "dress watches."

The rest of the non-watch collecting world thinks of them as sports watches. Including datejusts, oyster perpetuals, and every single watch created by or touched by Genta.

[francoamerican]

Originally Posted by SDDS

Photo of 5205P

This is my favorite modern patek right now. Absolute eff off watch but with no pretense that it's for "sports" or a medium to flash a bunch of precious metal and diamonds. The horological value scales reasonably with its market price.

[italiafan]

It’s funny, I just finished binge watching Succession. Quite an array of gorgeous dress watches on different characters just casually imbedded in the scene. It is easy to get “influenced” by such subtle placement because it reinvigorated my lust for dress watches again. LOL

[Murcielagoboy2]

Originally Posted by italiafan

It’s funny, I just finished binge watching Succession. Quite an array of gorgeous dress watches on different characters just casually imbedded in the scene. It is easy to get “influenced” by such subtle placement because it reinvigorated my lust for dress watches again. LOL

You noticed too? Some nice VC's in there for sure!

(Fantastic series. Some of the best acting and screenplay I've ever seen.)

[macrowatch]

News today that Bank of America bumped pay of MD’s by 20% to base. Have to imagine that drives lots of work from office leverage and suit wearing and dress watches. I’m calling it now, dress watches back in vogue in 5 years. Assuming no nuclear apocalypse.

[cardstock]

As people move through their lives, their enjoyment and status symbols change. When we are 16 we would do anything for even a junk heap of a car. By the time we are 21, we are buying new albeit "kids" kind of cars. In the 30s we are buying more sophisticated vehicles that are either sportier or more luxury even if it has to be an SUV for the kids.

This quest to stand out or just enjoy something more special than the run of the mill is pretty common. It is just that more money and income takes a wile to develop for most in life. This is good as you need to look forward to things and not be rich kid with a brand new Vette at 16 years old.

I think this is natural and happens too many. Also in this equation is knowing something exists. If you don't know what exists, you buy what your friends have or you see and advertisement for. It is not until you have lunch at the country club that you notice that they are not wearing a Fitbit or such (nothing derogatory implied).

So knowledge and income are important.

We are exiting out of the most affordable watch market in decades. For the past couple of decades, the top 10% of the population could fairly easily buy Patek and other top brands. This increase in prices of some of these watches are restoring the way it used to be. A mid level Patek or a platinum Role was out of the hands of all but the top 1%. The market is moving back that way again.

Enjoy your collection as it will only get more difficult to get into the game.

Franc