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RUpanerai · 28 December 2021, 12:53 AM

Saw this on Patekaholic's post this morning and couldn't find another source of information to confirm his post. Does anyone else know if this is true or not?

mrN · 28 December 2021, 12:56 AM

Let me grab some popcorn… brb

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Ichiran · 28 December 2021, 01:02 AM

Also heard rumours of the discontinuation of 5196P, 5270P, 5905P and 5930G.

gqmagic · 28 December 2021, 01:05 AM

WatcchProSite posted this news last week

5990 1A
5711 R
5930 G
5270 P
5905 P
5196 P

Will all be discontinued

Mini2 · 28 December 2021, 01:06 AM

It make sense regarding the 5711
Get us all prepped for the replacement

DigitalNsane · 28 December 2021, 01:06 AM

Not even this year 5712.
16 years on the market :O

Mini2 · 28 December 2021, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gqmagic

WatcchProSite posted this news last week

5990 1A
5711 R
5930 G
5270 P
5905 P
5196 P

Will all be discontinued

Regarding pricing, If a watch gets discontinued can an authorise dear sell that watch below RRP

llngoc · 28 December 2021, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mini2

Regarding pricing, If a watch gets discontinued can an authorise dear sell that watch below RRP

The AD cannot sell above MSRP but selling at a discount is okay. But I will be surprised if the 5711R and 5990/1A will see a discount anytime soon.

7sins · 28 December 2021, 02:30 AM

Does anyone know when the official discontinued announcement from Patek will be?

Token74 · 28 December 2021, 02:32 AM

Whatever replaces the 5990 will be epic!!

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llngoc · 28 December 2021, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Token74

Whatever replaces the 5990 will be epic!!

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Can the 5900/1A being discontinued because there is a 5990R now?

llngoc · 28 December 2021, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gqmagic

WatcchProSite posted this news last week

5990 1A
5711 R
5930 G
5270 P
5905 P
5196 P

Will all be discontinued

Patekholic’s post also have someone commented that the 5320G is discontinued too

Vipes · 28 December 2021, 02:54 AM

Maybe Patek is starting to replace SS Nautilus with PM for more profit. Then make more Calatravas in SS to get people more interested in this line.

Token74 · 28 December 2021, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llngoc

Can the 5900/1A being discontinued because there is a 5990R now?

I don’t really know. The steel 5980 was discontinued and replaced with the 5990, but the gold 5980 is still alive and well.

I adore my 5990/1A and can’t see that they will leave a gap in the Nautilus range, there needs to be a chunky Nautilus (despite many purists not liking it).

From memory, and this could be total nonsense, the steel 5980 was around for 8 years (2006 - 2014) and the 5990/1A will have been around for 8 years if discontinued in 2022. So it all adds up.

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GeraldGentaFan · 28 December 2021, 03:49 AM

Regarding 5990 1a: I wonder if the will launch another dial variant. The 5980 1a came in blue, white and black. 5990 1a so far only in grey.

They did something similar with the 5726 1a. Discontinued the grey dial, pricing shot through the roof only to find out a blue dial was launched…

QuelleHeureEstIl · 28 December 2021, 03:50 AM

This year is the 25th anniversary of the Aquanaut and the 90th anniversary of the Calatrava.
Will PP release new complications and grand complications during (virtual?) W&W2022 and a jubilee Aquanaut + Calatrava during the year?

QuelleHeureEstIl · 28 December 2021, 03:51 AM

I hope they will release more (P) watches and slow down with (A). :)

UltimateWatchesAB · 28 December 2021, 04:20 AM

Yes 5711/1R is discontinued. Remarkable piece!

karasus · 28 December 2021, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltimateWatchesAB

Yes 5711/1R is discontinued. Remarkable piece!

I love the 5711/1r but is it really a 250k watch?! Just checked chrono now, it seems like insanity....

Its 50k retail so 4-5x retail price? 2x from retail due to waitlists I can understand and maybe accept but 4-5x seems absurb even for a discontinued model...

AperolSpritz · 28 December 2021, 08:13 AM

Have no inside info but my gut feel tells me 5712 will go as well...

Kittayos · 28 December 2021, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karasus

I love the 5711/1r but is it really a 250k watch?! Just checked chrono now, it seems like insanity....

Its 50k retail so 4-5x retail price? 2x from retail due to waitlists I can understand and maybe accept but 4-5x seems absurb even for a discontinued model...

Op41 Tiffany blue at 6x-7x retail price. 5711 olive green at 12-13x. AP 26331st green at 6x and the list goes on. There’s no reason and it makes no logical sense for so long already, at least to me. People just keep pouring and spending money into the watch market.

250k for a new 5711/1r is typical now. Hyperinflation perhaps.

JR16 · 28 December 2021, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llngoc

Patekholic’s post also have someone commented that the 5320G is discontinued too

I’d be shocked, hasn’t been out that long

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kaiserphoenix · 28 December 2021, 10:01 AM

Hopefully this means many more interesting models in the line up. Patek could do with beefing up the complications line and more "entry-level Grand Comp" as well.

Patek_collector · 28 December 2021, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llngoc

The AD cannot sell above MSRP but selling at a discount is okay. But I will be surprised if the 5711R and 5990/1A will see a discount anytime soon.

if 5990A is discontinued, i expect prices to go up as most of the other discontinued pieces, unless i am missing something here.

QuelleHeureEstIl · 30 December 2021, 01:35 PM

For the Calatrava line, it would mean that there is no more Platinum except the rare handcraft (impossible to get) 5088/100P.

Interesting... :)

azizu · 31 December 2021, 01:05 AM

my sources also confirmed:
5204R-001
5270P
5320G
5205 except A
5230 all metals
5196 all metals
7200 all metals
lets see

smallcollector · 31 December 2021, 01:24 AM

interesting. . thx for the info

Ichiran · 31 December 2021, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azizu

my sources also confirmed:
5204R-001
5270P
5320G
5205 except A
5230 all metals
5196 all metals
7200 all metals
lets see

5905 or 5205? There is no A for 5205.

azizu · 31 December 2021, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiran

5905 or 5205? There is no A for 5205.

sorry i meant the 5205 will get discontinued
can't recall the 5905

5Zigen · 31 December 2021, 02:52 AM

From my understanding the only 5205 that will be available is the blue dial. The other variations are being discontinued.

28 December 2021, 12:53 AM	#1
RUpanerai "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Brian Location: NJ Watch: Pam Patek Rolex AP Posts: 794	5711/1R and 5990/1A both discontinued? Saw this on Patekaholic's post this morning and couldn't find another source of information to confirm his post. Does anyone else know if this is true or not?

28 December 2021, 02:30 AM	#9
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28 December 2021, 02:32 AM	#10
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,707	Whatever replaces the 5990 will be epic!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

28 December 2021, 04:20 AM	#18
UltimateWatchesAB "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: 5980R, 5164R, 5990 Posts: 60	Yes 5711/1R is discontinued. Remarkable piece! __________________ Kind Regards Ultimate Watches AB

28 December 2021, 10:01 AM	#23
kaiserphoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/Tokyo Watch: FPJ CO BL Posts: 1,599	Hopefully this means many more interesting models in the line up. Patek could do with beefing up the complications line and more "entry-level Grand Comp" as well. __________________ F.P.Journe Chronometre Optimum Black Label, Patek 5811G-001, A. Lange & Söhne Lange 1 191.039, Patek 5167A-001, Rolex Yacht-Master 40 Everrose, (Wh) Rolex Daytona 116500, (Blue) Rolex Skydweller 326934, Rolex Submariner 126610LV IG: tokyo_watch_guy

28 December 2021, 12:56 AM	#2
mrN "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Beverly Hills Posts: 225	Let me grab some popcorn… brb Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 December 2021, 01:02 AM	#3
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,619	Also heard rumours of the discontinuation of 5196P, 5270P, 5905P and 5930G.

28 December 2021, 01:05 AM	#4
gqmagic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Near LA Posts: 244	WatcchProSite posted this news last week 5990 1A 5711 R 5930 G 5270 P 5905 P 5196 P Will all be discontinued

28 December 2021, 01:06 AM	#5
Mini2 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Uk Posts: 1,493	It make sense regarding the 5711 Get us all prepped for the replacement

28 December 2021, 01:06 AM	#6
DigitalNsane "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: U.K Posts: 84	Not even this year 5712. 16 years on the market :O

28 December 2021, 02:54 AM	#13
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,838	Maybe Patek is starting to replace SS Nautilus with PM for more profit. Then make more Calatravas in SS to get people more interested in this line.

28 December 2021, 03:49 AM	#15
GeraldGentaFan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Mark Location: Europe Posts: 644	Regarding 5990 1a: I wonder if the will launch another dial variant. The 5980 1a came in blue, white and black. 5990 1a so far only in grey. They did something similar with the 5726 1a. Discontinued the grey dial, pricing shot through the roof only to find out a blue dial was launched…

28 December 2021, 03:50 AM	#16
QuelleHeureEstIl Banned Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Gnèèève Posts: 595	This year is the 25th anniversary of the Aquanaut and the 90th anniversary of the Calatrava. Will PP release new complications and grand complications during (virtual?) W&W2022 and a jubilee Aquanaut + Calatrava during the year?

28 December 2021, 03:51 AM	#17
QuelleHeureEstIl Banned Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Gnèèève Posts: 595	I hope they will release more (P) watches and slow down with (A). :)

28 December 2021, 08:13 AM	#20
AperolSpritz "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Around the World Posts: 349	Have no inside info but my gut feel tells me 5712 will go as well...

30 December 2021, 01:35 PM	#25
QuelleHeureEstIl Banned Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Gnèèève Posts: 595	For the Calatrava line, it would mean that there is no more Platinum except the rare handcraft (impossible to get) 5088/100P. Interesting... :)

31 December 2021, 01:05 AM	#26
azizu "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Saudi Arabia Watch: Patek 3700/11AJ Posts: 717	my sources also confirmed: 5204R-001 5270P 5320G 5205 except A 5230 all metals 5196 all metals 7200 all metals lets see __________________ Current Collection: PP 3700/11AJ, PP 5170G, PP 5320G, PP 5712/1A, APRO 15500, Rolex 116234, Rolex GMT Master2 BLNR, Omega SMP, Baume & Mercier M0A10280

31 December 2021, 01:24 AM	#27
smallcollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: uae Posts: 267	interesting. . thx for the info

31 December 2021, 02:52 AM	#30
5Zigen 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Watch: PP, AP, Rolex Posts: 749	From my understanding the only 5205 that will be available is the blue dial. The other variations are being discontinued.

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