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rod727 · 9 February 2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kingSubTT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl_UsphdU04
my 8 beats per second slow motion video.

I like that demo....

UncleSwiss · 9 February 2016, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

i'm on the fence but posting images of the box and papers might help...? but, hey, since you bought it already, congrats!

Yes, my point exactly...papers?

wolffram · 9 February 2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cht

too bad the dial is rotated too far clockwise so the so the ROLEXROLEXROLEX rehaut engravings don't line up with the minute markers...
:(

Just checked mine - I never realised that the letters are aligned with the minute markers

wolffram · 9 February 2016, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingSubTT

I say it is fake. LEC is very visible. It is very hard to see and taking a picture is even harder. You need light hit at 30 degrees
See my pic.

I agree. The LEC on mine (and in your pic) shows the crown as a very obvious series of dots. The OP's LEC has a smooth looking crown.

wolffram · 9 February 2016, 06:53 PM

Also the profile looks wrong. The view from the crown side shows a larger gap between the bezel and the crystal than mine. And the crystal appears to be sitting slightly higher too.

wolffram · 9 February 2016, 06:57 PM

So OP - are you worried that you might have bought a fake, or are you roadtesting the quality of your work in front of a critical audience?

Brizzybrad · 9 February 2016, 08:50 PM

It's fake, and the lack of response from the OP proves it.
It has many tells that I picked up on, but I think I will keep them to myself.

This is a good reminder of BUYER BEWARE!

LazyDaniel · 9 February 2016, 09:12 PM

the LEC looks fake too. Becareful

123Blueface · 9 February 2016, 10:22 PM

Anyone notice what I would describe as average person photos except for suddenly, a much nicer, professional style lame shot?
Not consistent at all with being taken by same person.
Bet not the same watch.

Chewbacca · 10 February 2016, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolffram

So OP - are you worried that you might have bought a fake, or are you roadtesting the quality of your work in front of a critical audience?

and bingo was his name-o!

123Blueface · 10 February 2016, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Anyone notice what I would describe as average person photos except for suddenly, a much nicer, professional style lame shot?
Not consistent at all with being taken by same person.
Bet not the same watch.

Oops.
Typo.
Meant to say "lume" shot.

kingSubTT · 10 February 2016, 02:50 AM

I think op wants to sell a fake and wanted to test here if he can get away. So OP you got a decent fake. You might get away with it b

Highland Ranger · 10 February 2016, 03:00 AM

I counted less than 8 beats on the video . . . . .

kingSubTT · 10 February 2016, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highland Ranger

I counted less than 8 beats on the video . . . . .

You point is? My watch is fake?
Count for like 4 seconds, then divide by 4 to get 8.

Fredrik · 10 February 2016, 05:51 AM

Lets note the serial here so that it will show up in searches: 314F4435

rod727 · 10 February 2016, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingSubTT

You point is? My watch is fake?
Count for like 4 seconds, then divide by 4 to get 8.

I just checked my 116610 and it is spot on 8 bpm....very cool in slo mo

kingSubTT · 10 February 2016, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rod727

I just checked my 116610 and it is spot on 8 bpm....very cool in slo mo

Yep. Start counting when the second hand hits 20 minute mark. After 3 secs, there are clear 24 ticks. No more, no less.

Danex · 10 February 2016, 08:26 AM

Yikes!
Threads like this are a little scary. It seems highly probable this is a fake, and perhaps we have aided the perpetrators with an assessment of their work. The OP has one post (this one). Very suspicious.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk while driving down the interstate at 75 mph

123Blueface · 10 February 2016, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danex

Yikes!
Threads like this are a little scary. It seems highly probable this is a fake, and perhaps we have aided the perpetrators with an assessment of their work. The OP has one post (this one). Very suspicious.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk while driving down the interstate at 75 mph

True.
However, OP never returned after this post to read the responses.

Highland Ranger · 10 February 2016, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik

Lets note the serial here so that it will show up in searches: 314F4435

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingSubTT

You point is? My watch is fake?
Count for like 4 seconds, then divide by 4 to get 8.

Maybe I'm having counting issues . . . or wasn't wearing my glasses? Or had too much scotch?

Either way, no offense intended.

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

UncleSwiss · 10 February 2016, 12:38 PM

If this is in fact a replica, its about the best one Ive ever seen. Would fool 99.9% of people, that's for sure.

Abdullah71601 · 10 February 2016, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danex

Yikes!
Threads like this are a little scary. It seems highly probable this is a fake, and perhaps we have aided the perpetrators with an assessment of their work. The OP has one post (this one). Very suspicious.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk while driving down the interstate at 75 mph

It looks good to me, well put together in fit and finish. Close ups of the lume are spot on. My AD purchased Explorer has some of the "tells" (LEC for example) people are talking about here.

I am perplexed by this theory that someone would be interested in the opinions of amateur watch enthusiasts when reverse engineering a watch, when all they need to do is look at a real watch

kingSubTT · 11 February 2016, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

It looks good to me, well put together in fit and finish. Close ups of the lume are spot on. My AD purchased Explorer has some of the "tells" (LEC for example) people are talking about here.

I am perplexed by this theory that someone would be interested in the opinions of amateur watch enthusiasts when reverse engineering a watch, when all they need to do is look at a real watch

When you purchase a $10k watch you visit the forum every 10 minutes to make sure you got the real thing. You don't post and disappear.

Sublover2166 · 11 February 2016, 04:19 AM

Wow. 53 posts and only the first one was by the OP.
Looks like this thing has run it's course.

jbenjamin1 · 11 February 2016, 04:42 AM

Another check is turning the crown to set the time. If you turn it clockwise the time too should turn clockwise (yes sounds logical but ETA movements are the reverse).

Syed117 · 11 February 2016, 10:17 AM

If that is a fake, it's the best I've ever seen.

I also see this myth about the LEC being difficult to see or photograph. This is not true. Look for it at the right angle in good light and it immediately pops out.

The pictures in this thread are taken from close enough that the LEC would be easy to photograph.

Henry C. · 11 February 2016, 10:52 AM

wow, if this is fake...they are getting crazy good! I would have never guessed.
repeat.... BUY. THE. SELLER.

Alford78 · 11 February 2016, 11:04 AM

If it's fake it's just been made since the serial number isn't showing up anywhere on the web.

The fake watch forum keeps track of all the new versions that are as close to the real thing as they produce. They "look" really close but the movement is the give away; although, most people buy them for themselves (for reasons I can only try to understand. I want a Patek 5167 or 5164 but not going to buy a replica. I'll just save my money ;-) so they don't pop up on here too often as watches being passed off as OEM. It's criminal any way you look at it though and they are getting really good at passing off many brands as the real thing.

Knappo 1307 · 11 February 2016, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleSwiss

If this is in fact a replica, its about the best one Ive ever seen. Would fool 99.9% of people, that's for sure.

The truth is in the movement. OP is gone and I believe testing the waters. As long as we have the serial, that may help in the future if it pops up for sale.

kingSubTT · 11 February 2016, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syed117

If that is a fake, it's the best I've ever seen.

I also see this myth about the LEC being difficult to see or photograph. This is not true. Look for it at the right angle in good light and it immediately pops out.

The pictures in this thread are taken from close enough that the LEC would be easy to photograph.

I respectfully disagree. Is is not physically possible to take a LEC shot like in the folex photo.

9 February 2016, 06:53 PM	#35
wolffram "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Tony Location: Melbourne, Aus Watch: 114060 Posts: 289	Also the profile looks wrong. The view from the crown side shows a larger gap between the bezel and the crystal than mine. And the crystal appears to be sitting slightly higher too. __________________ Rolex SubC 114060 Tudor BB Red 79230R Tudor BB 58 79030N

9 February 2016, 06:57 PM	#36
wolffram "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Real Name: Tony Location: Melbourne, Aus Watch: 114060 Posts: 289	So OP - are you worried that you might have bought a fake, or are you roadtesting the quality of your work in front of a critical audience? __________________ Rolex SubC 114060 Tudor BB Red 79230R Tudor BB 58 79030N

10 February 2016, 02:50 AM	#42
kingSubTT "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA Watch: SmurfDaytonaBLNR Posts: 682	I think op wants to sell a fake and wanted to test here if he can get away. So OP you got a decent fake. You might get away with it b __________________ White Daytona 116520, Sub 116619LB, GMT II BLNR

10 February 2016, 08:26 AM	#48
Danex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Dan O Location: Park City, UT Watch: Cosmograph Daytona Posts: 741	Yikes! Threads like this are a little scary. It seems highly probable this is a fake, and perhaps we have aided the perpetrators with an assessment of their work. The OP has one post (this one). Very suspicious. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk while driving down the interstate at 75 mph __________________ -Dan, WIS In Training 116520 Cosmograph Daytona 116622 & 16622 Yacht-Master 114060 & 14060 Submariner

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9 February 2016, 08:50 PM	#37
Brizzybrad "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: JP Location: CONUS Watch: ??? Posts: 245	It's fake, and the lack of response from the OP proves it. It has many tells that I picked up on, but I think I will keep them to myself. This is a good reminder of BUYER BEWARE!

9 February 2016, 09:12 PM	#38
LazyDaniel "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Daniel Location: New York City Watch: 116500LN Posts: 166	the LEC looks fake too. Becareful

9 February 2016, 10:22 PM	#39
123Blueface "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Watch: All Posts: 4,939	Anyone notice what I would describe as average person photos except for suddenly, a much nicer, professional style lame shot? Not consistent at all with being taken by same person. Bet not the same watch.

10 February 2016, 03:00 AM	#43
Highland Ranger "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 573	I counted less than 8 beats on the video . . . . .

10 February 2016, 05:51 AM	#45
Fredrik 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sweden Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,825	Lets note the serial here so that it will show up in searches: 314F4435

10 February 2016, 12:38 PM	#51
UncleSwiss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Dylan Location: U.K Watch: Rolex/AP Posts: 133	If this is in fact a replica, its about the best one Ive ever seen. Would fool 99.9% of people, that's for sure.

11 February 2016, 04:19 AM	#54
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	Wow. 53 posts and only the first one was by the OP. Looks like this thing has run it's course.

11 February 2016, 04:42 AM	#55
jbenjamin1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Jay Location: NY Metropolitan Watch: Many Posts: 741	Another check is turning the crown to set the time. If you turn it clockwise the time too should turn clockwise (yes sounds logical but ETA movements are the reverse).

11 February 2016, 10:17 AM	#56
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	If that is a fake, it's the best I've ever seen. I also see this myth about the LEC being difficult to see or photograph. This is not true. Look for it at the right angle in good light and it immediately pops out. The pictures in this thread are taken from close enough that the LEC would be easy to photograph.

11 February 2016, 10:52 AM	#57
Henry C. "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Great Lakes Watch: ing out. Posts: 51	wow, if this is fake...they are getting crazy good! I would have never guessed. repeat.... BUY. THE. SELLER.

11 February 2016, 11:04 AM	#58
Alford78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Western KY Posts: 501	If it's fake it's just been made since the serial number isn't showing up anywhere on the web. The fake watch forum keeps track of all the new versions that are as close to the real thing as they produce. They "look" really close but the movement is the give away; although, most people buy them for themselves (for reasons I can only try to understand. I want a Patek 5167 or 5164 but not going to buy a replica. I'll just save my money ;-) so they don't pop up on here too often as watches being passed off as OEM. It's criminal any way you look at it though and they are getting really good at passing off many brands as the real thing.

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