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Old 1 March 2021, 07:42 AM   #1
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Price aside which would you take and why?

Price aside which would you take and why?
Pretty much what it says in the topic
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Old 1 March 2021, 08:03 AM   #2
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5167, with an option of swapping to rubber strap, which will wear differently.
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Old 1 March 2021, 08:16 AM   #3
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5167, with an option of swapping to rubber strap, which will wear differently.
This. The 5167 with the black rubber strap.
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5167 with running second and swimmable with 120m WR. Even though I love the 15202, I would get the 5167 first :)
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Flame away, but having owned both (and sold both) ... neither.

If you're going to do it anyway, IMO the 5167 is much more comfortable to wear - on the rubber strap. The bracelet - ugh.

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Old 1 March 2021, 08:52 AM   #6
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Old 1 March 2021, 09:22 AM   #7
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Old 1 March 2021, 09:26 AM   #8
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The bracelet on the AP is far superior to the Aquanaut’s, So in this configuration, the AP
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Old 1 March 2021, 09:31 AM   #9
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Price aside which would you take and why?

Is it because this is in the Patek forum section? The Jumbo by a mile. Although I do like the Aquanaut somewhat especially on rubber, that bracelet on this configuration is hideous.


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Old 1 March 2021, 09:38 AM   #10
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Jumbo.
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Old 1 March 2021, 09:41 AM   #11
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Old 1 March 2021, 09:48 AM   #12
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Definitely the AP.
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Patek....I to this day cannot take the screw octagonal bezel from AP.
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Old 1 March 2021, 10:24 AM   #14
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AP all day and twice on Sunday. Based on looks alone. But if you want a more accurate watch and a watch that isn’t a pain in the ass to set the date on get the Aquanaut. I’ve had both, neither one is worth the $$$.
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AP. Patek just isn't for me. I like some of their strap watches though.
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You will get different opinions when asking in the AP forum
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Old 1 March 2021, 10:33 AM   #17
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Any Royal oak every day and 3 times on Sunday. Genta’s original , nautilus is a follower and Aquanaut is a follower of a follower... Lol


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Have both. Great watches. Prefer Jumbo.
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Old 1 March 2021, 10:42 AM   #20
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The Jumbo. If it was against the Nautilus then it’s a very tough decision but IMO the aquanaut isn’t designed as well as the Royal Oak. The Aquanaut on a bracelet looks terrible.


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Old 1 March 2021, 10:53 AM   #21
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Flame away, but having owned both (and sold both) ... neither.

If you're going to do it anyway, IMO the 5167 is much more comfortable to wear - on the rubber strap. The bracelet - ugh.

This. Neither.
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Old 1 March 2021, 12:04 PM   #22
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtkYak2XsqA


Nowadays with the rise of the Nautilus prices it's easy to pick Patek, but there are many factors that do not include current market price.

I’m Watch Eric and in this video we’re going to be debating Patek Philippe vs. Audemars Piguet. I've always told people that when comparing the “popular” big three brands the line up is as follows: Rolex is at the bottom, AP in the middle, and Patek is on top. In this debate today we are not taking into consideration the recent high market prices of Patek. We are looking at this from the perspective of branding, models, traditions, and retail prices.

Brand Recognition The first brand that is the master of this is Rolex. You can go anywhere in the world and people will know that a Rolex watch is a thing of value. Although I love AP, I feel that Patek has way more brand recognition worldwide. I would say that in the “expensive’ watch world, right after Rolex everyone recognizes Patek Philippe. They may not know much about an AP, but you show them a very old and thin Calatrava and they will read the name and say omg it’s a Patek Philippe.

Flag Ship Models When comparing the design of their flagship models which right now are the AP Royal Oak and the Patek Nautilus, I like to use cars to help relate to these models. The Royal Oak is more of a sports car like Ferrari or Lamborghini. Sharper lines and more of an aggressive sporty look. While the Nautilus has more smoother elegant lines like those of a Rolls Royce. Although they are two different looks, I notice that sports car guys will have a Rolls most of the times, but many times a guy with a Rolls will not have a sports car. This happens too with Patek. It’s timeless just like a Rolls Royce.

Traditional Leather Strap Models When you put aside the sports models of the two brands and we focus on the other models. Patek is on top. AP has there Jules Audemars line up and the new Code11.59, but these models have not really had much success like countless Patek models have. Some of my favorites like the 5070, 5270, and 5960 are classics. Not to mention my all time favorite Patek models the Celestial and the Sky moon. AP just does not have anything to really compete with them.

Finish and Presentation Both brands have a high quality finish and presentation. Patek seems to go a bit more above and beyond. Even the box tends to have more of a luxurious feel. AP warranty papers come in a book that is nice but Patek has a unique leather folder for the papers and a lot more touches that make you feel like you are really getting more of an experience. AP movements have an amazing finish, but Patek tends to take it up one more notch on finish and presentation.

Brand Tradition Patek seems to be a brand that is more of a family heirloom. Just has that deep root tradition. Patek coined the slogan “You never actually own a Patek, you merely look after it for the next generation”. Genius marketing but true. As much as I enjoy the AP brand, I do not see someone buying a 44mm Rose gold offshore for the purpose of passing it down as an heirloom. Patek never does what is popular. They do what is right for the brand and the heritage.

The conclusion is that Patek Philippe is the next level after Audemars Piguet.


As for the band Patek Philippe VS Audemars Piguet..^^^.. It is what it is.... Eric explain very well and I agree with him..... Click above to watch the youtube video...^^^......

As for 5167 VS 15202st...... I would have to pick 5167 because it fit my casual lifestyle and it look sportier.....

Plus 5167 is the only timepiece that can be change to 3 different type of Patek Philippe original equipment manufacturer strap such as bracelet, rubber, and crocodile leather strap with pin buckle or Calatrava cross deployant clasp.... Unlike 15202st.....

And also not to mention 5167 got the best lume.....














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Old 1 March 2021, 02:49 PM   #23
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The Jumbo. If it was against the Nautilus then it’s a very tough decision but IMO the aquanaut isn’t designed as well as the Royal Oak. The Aquanaut on a bracelet looks terrible.


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Old 1 March 2021, 03:29 PM   #24
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15202, and same answer if it was a vs a 5711.

Sequels can try, but they never quite live up to the original. :P
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Old 1 March 2021, 03:39 PM   #25
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5167 with that bracelet is not a pretty sight.
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Old 1 March 2021, 04:27 PM   #26
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I'd pick 5167 all day.
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Old 1 March 2021, 06:07 PM   #27
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Not a fan of the 5167 on bracelet.
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Old 1 March 2021, 06:48 PM   #28
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Jumbo...zero feelings for aquanaut


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Old 1 March 2021, 08:22 PM   #29
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Not a fan of AP and particularly no seconds version so 5167 and change it for rubber strap.
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Old 1 March 2021, 08:27 PM   #30
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lol spot on. +20 for 15202

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AP all day and twice on Sunday. Based on looks alone. But if you want a more accurate watch and a watch that isn’t a pain in the ass to set the date on get the Aquanaut. I’ve had both, neither one is worth the $$$.
Just buy a watch winder for the 15202, date setting problem solved.
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