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Old 23 November 2021, 03:56 AM   #1
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Hi everyone,

I have built iber the years a decent Ptel collection ranging from Calatravas, few nautilus and lately the 5270P.

I am thinking of my next move and i am contemplating a tourbillon. Of course Patek is out of scope here else i need to sell my house to get one!!

Any recommendation for a reasonable tourbillon watch that can be found? Honestly the only one i could find after research is the Moser heritage tourbillon but i am not familiar with the brand at all.

Let me know guys if you have recommendations.

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Old 23 November 2021, 04:15 AM   #2
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Breguet invented it, so I would start there!
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Old 23 November 2021, 04:22 AM   #3
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You might also look at Greubel Forsey tourbillons. Their price range is similar to the Patek tourbillons range, but they make some interesting pieces.
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Old 23 November 2021, 05:20 AM   #4
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For more affordable tourbillons, you may consider these (easily searchable and prices on their sites too):

- Jaeger Le Coultre has a Master Ultra Thin tourbillon
- IWC has a few tourbillons too
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Old 23 November 2021, 06:06 AM   #5
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For more affordable tourbillons, you may consider these (easily searchable and prices on their sites too):

- Jaeger Le Coultre has a Master Ultra Thin tourbillon
- IWC has a few tourbillons too

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i think JLC would be a great choice
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Old 23 November 2021, 01:03 PM   #6
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Hello
Great collection there. 5270 is a grail worthy piece itself. I envy you. Alternatively, I feel JLC came up with a stunning piece recently. The Reverso tribute duo face tourbillon! Honestly, it is a spectacular piece and such an under-the-radar easy to miss piece. Subtle yet speaks volumes with just a switch of the dial. Also, almost close to the 5270 price point when I inquired. Give it a look and please do post a picture of the new addition to your collection regardless of what brand you choose to go for. Wish you the best.


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Old 23 November 2021, 02:58 PM   #7
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I like these tourbillons:
Patek 5303
Patek 5207
Tourbillon Souverain
1815 Tourbillon / Handwerkskunst
AP RO Tourbillon Extra-Thin
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Old 23 November 2021, 04:04 PM   #8
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I really enjoy my 5207G
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Old 23 November 2021, 10:41 PM   #9
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I really enjoy my 5207G
That is simply beautiful. Enjoy.

OP, you are certain to add something amazing whilst playing in this sandbox. I like the GF suggestion. Whilst Cartier and FM will get scoffed at, I think they have some incredible tourbillons at a good value (speaking relatively of course).
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Old 23 November 2021, 10:50 PM   #10
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Panerai makes some interesting options including the 768. You gotta like the size though
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Old 24 November 2021, 12:05 AM   #11
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Tourbillion timepieces made in Switzerland range from ~$4500 on up. So without a scope of investment, it's hard to say. PP 3939H were around $175k last time i checked. Did you want an old-school flat tourbillion like Pateks or a modern multi-axis that more creative brands offer?
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Old 24 November 2021, 01:06 AM   #12
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i prefer PP but dont mind micro brand

i have not seen any PP tourbillon below $200K! and available. i looked at Moser and will continue to look at other micro brands that have availability.
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Old 24 November 2021, 05:28 AM   #13
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i have not seen any PP tourbillon below $200K! and available. i looked at Moser and will continue to look at other micro brands that have availability.
There are some pre-owned Patek tourbillons under $200k. One of the least expensive Patek tourbillon is the 5101 with the 10 day power reserve, along with the tourbillon. Interestingly for this reference, the production number for the P version was higher than the other metals.
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Old 24 November 2021, 12:37 PM   #14
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I just obtained a Moser Streamliner Centre Seconds.

I quite like the brand and am considering their tourbillion. Its stainless steel which makes it quite wearable.


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Old 25 November 2021, 04:52 AM   #15
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I really enjoy my 5207G
holy cow, thanks for sharing that's just beautiful - soo cool
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Old 25 November 2021, 07:44 AM   #16
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I would personally refrain from getting a tourbillon from Tier 2 brands like IWC, Panerai etc.

A tourbillon needs to come from the holly trinity (adding ALS to this I guess and probably taking out AP - would not get a tourbillon from AP given they only sell RO and I can't see a tourb in a sport's case like the RO). A tourbillon is HH at its best so there is no compromise here.

So either I would save up (or trade up) to get a tourb from PP / VC / ALS or I wouldn't get one. Simple as that.

Going Tier 2 feels like these guys getting a red Mazda cabriolet sports car instead of a Ferrari. It's close but it's not the real thing.

Just my 2 cents I guess though.
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Old 25 November 2021, 08:42 AM   #17
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Tourbillon Pour Le Merite ‘Walter Lange’.





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Old 25 November 2021, 01:56 PM   #18
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I would second this one. I have one of their Tourbs. and love it.. I also like the new VC tourb. but have not seen in person. I have a Gronefeld Parallax Tourb and this is also fantastic but now out of production since limited edition. They have a newer release Tourb but these are hard to get right now.

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Old 25 November 2021, 02:01 PM   #19
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I love Lange, but what were they thinking when they decided to write ´tourbillon’ on that one…
Looks cheesy and doesn’t even add to dial balance…

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Old 25 November 2021, 06:23 PM   #20
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I love Lange, but what were they thinking when they decided to write ´tourbillon’ on that one…
Looks cheesy and doesn’t even add to dial balance…
Well I guess back in the early 1990's when a tourbillon was something only offered by a very limited and select group of manufacturers they thought it important, indeed this was the first wristwatch ever with a Tourbillon and chain & fusee - the wording doesn't worry me.
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Old 25 November 2021, 07:44 PM   #21
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i see the Lange point but...

honestly, i prefer a tourbillon on a bit of sporty watch and i am unable to find a Lange. the closest i found after my research was from Czapek (a small new brand). they have a sports tourbillon called place vendome, dark matter.

not sure if anyone has any experience with the brand or the watch. but it looks interesting.
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Old 25 November 2021, 08:32 PM   #22
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honestly, i prefer a tourbillon on a bit of sporty watch and i am unable to find a Lange. the closest i found after my research was from Czapek (a small new brand). they have a sports tourbillon called place vendome, dark matter.

not sure if anyone has any experience with the brand or the watch. but it looks interesting.
I think the brand is interesting, their new rattrapante appealed to me. No actual experience.
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Old 26 November 2021, 02:42 AM   #23
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I decided to take a chance on the Czapek Rattrapante. I am supposed to receive it sometime in December.

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I think the brand is interesting, their new rattrapante appealed to me. No actual experience.
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