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23 November 2021, 03:56 AM | #1 |
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Next purchase… considering a tourbillon
Hi everyone,
I have built iber the years a decent Ptel collection ranging from Calatravas, few nautilus and lately the 5270P. I am thinking of my next move and i am contemplating a tourbillon. Of course Patek is out of scope here else i need to sell my house to get one!! Any recommendation for a reasonable tourbillon watch that can be found? Honestly the only one i could find after research is the Moser heritage tourbillon but i am not familiar with the brand at all. Let me know guys if you have recommendations. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
23 November 2021, 04:15 AM | #2 |
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Breguet invented it, so I would start there!
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23 November 2021, 04:22 AM | #3 |
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You might also look at Greubel Forsey tourbillons. Their price range is similar to the Patek tourbillons range, but they make some interesting pieces.
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23 November 2021, 05:20 AM | #4 |
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For more affordable tourbillons, you may consider these (easily searchable and prices on their sites too):
- Jaeger Le Coultre has a Master Ultra Thin tourbillon - IWC has a few tourbillons too |
23 November 2021, 06:06 AM | #5 |
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23 November 2021, 01:03 PM | #6 |
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Hello
Great collection there. 5270 is a grail worthy piece itself. I envy you. Alternatively, I feel JLC came up with a stunning piece recently. The Reverso tribute duo face tourbillon! Honestly, it is a spectacular piece and such an under-the-radar easy to miss piece. Subtle yet speaks volumes with just a switch of the dial. Also, almost close to the 5270 price point when I inquired. Give it a look and please do post a picture of the new addition to your collection regardless of what brand you choose to go for. Wish you the best. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
23 November 2021, 02:58 PM | #7 |
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I like these tourbillons:
Patek 5303 Patek 5207 Tourbillon Souverain 1815 Tourbillon / Handwerkskunst AP RO Tourbillon Extra-Thin |
23 November 2021, 04:04 PM | #8 |
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I really enjoy my 5207G
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23 November 2021, 10:41 PM | #9 |
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That is simply beautiful. Enjoy.
OP, you are certain to add something amazing whilst playing in this sandbox. I like the GF suggestion. Whilst Cartier and FM will get scoffed at, I think they have some incredible tourbillons at a good value (speaking relatively of course). |
23 November 2021, 10:50 PM | #10 |
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Panerai makes some interesting options including the 768. You gotta like the size though
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Tourbillion timepieces made in Switzerland range from ~$4500 on up. So without a scope of investment, it's hard to say. PP 3939H were around $175k last time i checked. Did you want an old-school flat tourbillion like Pateks or a modern multi-axis that more creative brands offer?
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24 November 2021, 01:06 AM | #12 |
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i prefer PP but dont mind micro brand
i have not seen any PP tourbillon below $200K! and available. i looked at Moser and will continue to look at other micro brands that have availability.
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24 November 2021, 05:28 AM | #13 |
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There are some pre-owned Patek tourbillons under $200k. One of the least expensive Patek tourbillon is the 5101 with the 10 day power reserve, along with the tourbillon. Interestingly for this reference, the production number for the P version was higher than the other metals.
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24 November 2021, 12:37 PM | #14 |
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I just obtained a Moser Streamliner Centre Seconds.
I quite like the brand and am considering their tourbillion. Its stainless steel which makes it quite wearable. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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I would personally refrain from getting a tourbillon from Tier 2 brands like IWC, Panerai etc.
A tourbillon needs to come from the holly trinity (adding ALS to this I guess and probably taking out AP - would not get a tourbillon from AP given they only sell RO and I can't see a tourb in a sport's case like the RO). A tourbillon is HH at its best so there is no compromise here. So either I would save up (or trade up) to get a tourb from PP / VC / ALS or I wouldn't get one. Simple as that. Going Tier 2 feels like these guys getting a red Mazda cabriolet sports car instead of a Ferrari. It's close but it's not the real thing. Just my 2 cents I guess though. |
25 November 2021, 08:42 AM | #17 |
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Tourbillon Pour Le Merite ‘Walter Lange’.
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I would second this one. I have one of their Tourbs. and love it.. I also like the new VC tourb. but have not seen in person. I have a Gronefeld Parallax Tourb and this is also fantastic but now out of production since limited edition. They have a newer release Tourb but these are hard to get right now.
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Well I guess back in the early 1990's when a tourbillon was something only offered by a very limited and select group of manufacturers they thought it important, indeed this was the first wristwatch ever with a Tourbillon and chain & fusee - the wording doesn't worry me.
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25 November 2021, 07:44 PM | #21 |
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i see the Lange point but...
honestly, i prefer a tourbillon on a bit of sporty watch and i am unable to find a Lange. the closest i found after my research was from Czapek (a small new brand). they have a sports tourbillon called place vendome, dark matter.
not sure if anyone has any experience with the brand or the watch. but it looks interesting. |
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I own a VC Tourbillon ref 30050P. There is a decent hodinkee article on it for more info and pics. It was sub $50k.
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20 December 2021, 11:00 PM | #25 |
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For a tourbillon would go to VC eyes closed.
Their tourbillon made with the maltese cross is simply out of this world! |
22 December 2021, 01:48 AM | #26 |
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I like PP tourbillon because they do not have o hole in the dial. More subtle.
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