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FatFrank · 22 January 2019, 02:05 PM

So here’s my dilemma, I just purchased a used submariner two tone 116613LN and it is a 2010. The previous owner was doctor who barely wore it. It was literally in mint condition and I actually still pulled off some plastic when I purchased it. My Jeweler will allow me to return and purchase a brand new one for $2000 more. What are your thoughts on this? And my other questions is, let’s say in 30 years from now I had a 2019 116613LN and a 2010 116613LN in the same condition. Will they be the same price. I’m just having second thoughts because it’s about to be 10 years old even though it’s basically mint. I also like the fact that my name would be on the new one along with the warranty. Or is it not a big deal and I should just enjoy it?

Brian Page · 22 January 2019, 02:09 PM

you can find one that is 1 year old for 2000 less than retail. I'm not saying it's a horrible deal but you could do better if you are concerned about age and service for the movement.

herts9 · 22 January 2019, 02:19 PM

Keep the one you have and service it when it needs it

FatFrank · 22 January 2019, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Page

you can find one that is 1 year old for 2000 less than retail. I'm not saying it's a horrible deal but you could do better if you are concerned about age and service for the movement.

I haven’t seen any used ones for the price I got mine for. My Families been buying Jewlery from this guy for 30+ years. Let’s just say I got mine for less than 10 and can get the new one for less than 12. Don’t know if it’s appropriate for me to be talking numbers on this site since I am new. Forgive me if so

Brian Page · 22 January 2019, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FatFrank

I haven’t seen any used ones for the price I got mine for. My Families been buying Jewlery from this guy for 30+ years. Let’s just say I got mine for less than 10 and can get the new one for less than 12. Don’t know if it’s appropriate for me to be talking numbers on this site since I am new. Forgive me if so

Go with your gut, my only thought was 10 years old vs new for 2k more....

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rominvicta · 22 January 2019, 04:55 PM

Both are the same. It wouldn’t make any difference in 10 year time whether your watch was bought in 2010 or 2019!

joli160 · 22 January 2019, 05:01 PM

Worrying about the value of a watch over 30 years ? I hope you are joking

peterpl · 22 January 2019, 05:25 PM

The only thing is a 2010 model is maybe due for a service which will cost you maybe around $750-$1000 even though it may not have been used too much. You dont know where it was stored or how it was stored. Maybe the oils are dried up over the 8 years

For $2k more for a new one I think it might be a better option. Plus you get the 5 years warranty. Maybe that alone is good enough reason for peace of mind that you know whatever happens in the next 5 years Rolex will fix it for free.

Rashid.bk · 22 January 2019, 05:59 PM

In 30 years???
Lolssss
Investing is you're criteria for enjoying your watch?? Sad.

My take, waste of $2k.

ChrisMy · 22 January 2019, 06:06 PM

i would not pay another 2k as you're going to keep it for years to come

lord91 · 22 January 2019, 08:10 PM

I would take the new one, since you'll already spend close to 1k servicing the one you have.

FatFrank · 22 January 2019, 11:17 PM

Quit killing me on the 30 year thing. It was just a quick thought I had while typing haha dumb example question I guess lol I will have the watch for the rest of my life

FatFrank · 22 January 2019, 11:19 PM

Also my jeweler is a great family friend and he services/polishes Rolex’s as well. So if anything were to happen to it he would take care of it for me. Maybe not for free but definitely for a great price. Think I’m leaning towards just keeping the one I have now.

justdate · 22 January 2019, 11:31 PM

If you love the watch and plan to keep it for many years, seems like as good a time as any to upgrade to a new one - as yours will come into service period soon. Fresh warranty and service records, that alone is worth surely $1k, then the extra $1k for a 10 years newer watch, in your name and brand new condition, not bad.

So yes if you are looking to blow $2k on something, then I guess you can get it to make sense. But the best financial decision is to keep the one you've got and just service it when it needs it.

Jim Smyth · 22 January 2019, 11:34 PM

I just paid a small premium for the privilege of pulling off all my stickers and having a brand new full set on my 116613LB. I say do the trade and you dont have to worry about anything for 10 more years. Whats 2K in the big scheme of things.

watchwatcher · 23 January 2019, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FatFrank

So here’s my dilemma, I just purchased a used submariner two tone 116613LN and it is a 2010. The previous owner was doctor who barely wore it. It was literally in mint condition and I actually still pulled off some plastic when I purchased it. My Jeweler will allow me to return and purchase a brand new one for $2000 more. What are your thoughts on this? And my other questions is, let’s say in 30 years from now I had a 2019 116613LN and a 2010 116613LN in the same condition. Will they be the same price. I’m just having second thoughts because it’s about to be 10 years old even though it’s basically mint. I also like the fact that my name would be on the new one along with the warranty. Or is it not a big deal and I should just enjoy it?

If you need to give away $2k, just send me a PM.

Seibei · 23 January 2019, 03:11 AM

If you like the new one better, then get it. 2k does however seem a bit too much.

droptopman · 23 January 2019, 03:15 AM

I would keep the one you have. Even if you need to service in the next few years that will only be 700$ ish.

CoveWatch · 23 January 2019, 05:51 AM

As you mentioned, the current one is in mint condition so not much of a difference in the actual watch for $2k more... for me though, if I were to consider this move, it would be more for me having my own name on the card especially if its meant to be an heirloom or something

Halitosis · 23 January 2019, 06:05 AM

Think of the dealer's motive - he isn't making that offer for your benefit, its for his own interest, so either haggle on his 2k trade up price or keep the 10 year old watch. It'll look exactly the same on your wrist and you'll have money in your pocket

superstarmar · 23 January 2019, 06:09 AM

If the one you purchased from the Doctor looks just like
new and you still peeled some plastic off of it take the extra
$2K and go on vacation... Or put it towards your next watch?
Lots you can do with $2K...

Did you get all the original boxes, tang tags, paperwork and
warranty card with the watch from the Doc ?
It's already out of warranty so unless your name on it
is worth the extra money I'd say call it a day and be happy...

Beautiful Watch enjoy it , I have the Blue dial one...

georgekart · 23 January 2019, 09:02 AM

First of all your difference isn't 2k. Your watch is 10 years old. It needs servicing. AFAIK servicing at RSC costs about 1k. Lets say you do it for 500 at your jewler. Most likely he knows how to service 3135, it's not a new movement. So you have 1-1.5k difference.

Is it worth to have a new watch for 1.5k? If it is your first Rolex/expensive watch it might. For that psychological factor. If not, up to you to decide. Does it bother you it is used? Do you care? I don't think it will affect value.

If I were you I probably would. But if it was an offer to exchange for bluesy, that'd be an easy choice.

superstarmar · 23 January 2019, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgekart

First of all your difference isn't 2k. Your watch is 10 years old. It needs servicing. AFAIK servicing at RSC costs about 1k. Lets say you do it for 500 at your jewler. Most likely he knows how to service 3135, it's not a new movement. So you have 1-1.5k difference.

Is it worth to have a new watch for 1.5k? If it is your first Rolex/expensive watch it might. For that psychological factor. If not, up to you to decide. Does it bother you it is used? Do you care? I don't think it will affect value.

If I were you I probably would. But if it was an offer to exchange for bluesy, that'd be an easy choice.

Agree to swap for Bluesy Sub C as well...

MichelleP · 23 January 2019, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterpl

The only thing is a 2010 model is maybe due for a service which will cost you maybe around $750-$1000 even though it may not have been used too much. You dont know where it was stored or how it was stored. Maybe the oils are dried up over the 8 years

For $2k more for a new one I think it might be a better option. Plus you get the 5 years warranty. Maybe that alone is good enough reason for peace of mind that you know whatever happens in the next 5 years Rolex will fix it for free.

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FatFrank · 23 January 2019, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superstarmar

If the one you purchased from the Doctor looks just like
new and you still peeled some plastic off of it take the extra
$2K and go on vacation... Or put it towards your next watch?
Lots you can do with $2K...

Did you get all the original boxes, tang tags, paperwork and
warranty card with the watch from the Doc ?
It's already out of warranty so unless your name on it
is worth the extra money I'd say call it a day and be happy...

Beautiful Watch enjoy it , I have the Blue dial one...

Original box, tang tags, no paperwork, and I did get the warranty card

FatFrank · 23 January 2019, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superstarmar

Agree to swap for Bluesy Sub C as well...

To be honest I had the choice to get the blue one as well but I really liked the slickness of the black. My cars black, the majority of my clothes are black and I just like black better lol

FatFrank · 23 January 2019, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterpl

The only thing is a 2010 model is maybe due for a service which will cost you maybe around $750-$1000 even though it may not have been used too much. You dont know where it was stored or how it was stored. Maybe the oils are dried up over the 8 years

For $2k more for a new one I think it might be a better option. Plus you get the 5 years warranty. Maybe that alone is good enough reason for peace of mind that you know whatever happens in the next 5 years Rolex will fix it for free.

How will I know if it’s time to service my Rolex in the first place. Sorry if this is a noob questions

georgekart · 23 January 2019, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatFrank

How will I know if it’s time to service my Rolex in the first place. Sorry if this is a noob questions

Everyone will tell you differently. Up until 2015 Rolex had 2 year warranty and 3 year service interval. After 2015, they have a 5 year warranty with 10 year service interval. Some people believe you should only service when a watch starts running wrong. Etc. Is 3 years too often? I would say so. Is 10 too long? Probably as well. I personally think 7-8 is the sweet spot. But I am no expert, nor do I have evidence to back my claim up. If I were you I'd service it. First of all back then they used different lubricants so it might start drying out already. Secondly if nothing else it will give you a piece of mind.

Gotgolf52 · 23 January 2019, 09:36 PM

For $2k, I think it’s worth it to have my name on the warranty card and worry free for another 10 years. But that just me.

1William · 23 January 2019, 10:38 PM

Nothing wrong with keeping the watch you have but it will need a service at some point. I know 2k is a lot of money but not really, depending on how you look at it. A new watch with complete box and papers and warranty for five years is appealing. When you take the service costs out of the 2k it is a lot more interesting. If you should decide to flip the watch, the newer model under warranty will bring more value. I would do the deal for the new watch. Make my own history with it and there is something about getting a new watch. Not just new to you. In the end the money is too close, taking into account service and age, not to get the new one. Go for it.

22 January 2019, 02:05 PM	#1
FatFrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 13	Rolex Submariner 2 tone 116613LN New or Used So here’s my dilemma, I just purchased a used submariner two tone 116613LN and it is a 2010. The previous owner was doctor who barely wore it. It was literally in mint condition and I actually still pulled off some plastic when I purchased it. My Jeweler will allow me to return and purchase a brand new one for $2000 more. What are your thoughts on this? And my other questions is, let’s say in 30 years from now I had a 2019 116613LN and a 2010 116613LN in the same condition. Will they be the same price. I’m just having second thoughts because it’s about to be 10 years old even though it’s basically mint. I also like the fact that my name would be on the new one along with the warranty. Or is it not a big deal and I should just enjoy it?

22 January 2019, 05:01 PM	#7
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,355	Worrying about the value of a watch over 30 years ? I hope you are joking __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

23 January 2019, 03:15 AM	#18
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	I would keep the one you have. Even if you need to service in the next few years that will only be 700$ ish. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

22 January 2019, 02:09 PM	#2
Brian Page "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA Posts: 6,527	you can find one that is 1 year old for 2000 less than retail. I'm not saying it's a horrible deal but you could do better if you are concerned about age and service for the movement.

22 January 2019, 02:19 PM	#3
herts9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Brian Location: Cincinnati Watch: 116610LN Posts: 2,021	Keep the one you have and service it when it needs it

22 January 2019, 04:55 PM	#6
rominvicta 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: EU Watch: DSSD, BLNR, SM, GM Posts: 931	Both are the same. It wouldn’t make any difference in 10 year time whether your watch was bought in 2010 or 2019!

22 January 2019, 05:25 PM	#8
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	The only thing is a 2010 model is maybe due for a service which will cost you maybe around $750-$1000 even though it may not have been used too much. You dont know where it was stored or how it was stored. Maybe the oils are dried up over the 8 years For $2k more for a new one I think it might be a better option. Plus you get the 5 years warranty. Maybe that alone is good enough reason for peace of mind that you know whatever happens in the next 5 years Rolex will fix it for free.

22 January 2019, 05:59 PM	#9
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,172	In 30 years??? Lolssss Investing is you're criteria for enjoying your watch?? Sad. My take, waste of $2k.

22 January 2019, 06:06 PM	#10
ChrisMy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Chris Location: Earth Watch: Patek & Rolex Posts: 146	i would not pay another 2k as you're going to keep it for years to come

22 January 2019, 08:10 PM	#11
lord91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Bucuresti Watch: Submariner Posts: 1,724	I would take the new one, since you'll already spend close to 1k servicing the one you have.

22 January 2019, 11:17 PM	#12
FatFrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 13	Quit killing me on the 30 year thing. It was just a quick thought I had while typing haha dumb example question I guess lol I will have the watch for the rest of my life

22 January 2019, 11:19 PM	#13
FatFrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 13	Also my jeweler is a great family friend and he services/polishes Rolex’s as well. So if anything were to happen to it he would take care of it for me. Maybe not for free but definitely for a great price. Think I’m leaning towards just keeping the one I have now.

22 January 2019, 11:31 PM	#14
justdate "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: RJ Location: UK Coast Watch: PP/AP/Rolex Posts: 1,329	If you love the watch and plan to keep it for many years, seems like as good a time as any to upgrade to a new one - as yours will come into service period soon. Fresh warranty and service records, that alone is worth surely $1k, then the extra $1k for a 10 years newer watch, in your name and brand new condition, not bad. So yes if you are looking to blow $2k on something, then I guess you can get it to make sense. But the best financial decision is to keep the one you've got and just service it when it needs it.

22 January 2019, 11:34 PM	#15
Jim Smyth Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Jim Smyth Location: Florida Watch: DD Posts: 1,842	I just paid a small premium for the privilege of pulling off all my stickers and having a brand new full set on my 116613LB. I say do the trade and you dont have to worry about anything for 10 more years. Whats 2K in the big scheme of things.

23 January 2019, 03:11 AM	#17
Seibei Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Zealand Watch: 114060 Posts: 2,630	If you like the new one better, then get it. 2k does however seem a bit too much.

23 January 2019, 05:51 AM	#19
CoveWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex & AP Posts: 4,535	As you mentioned, the current one is in mint condition so not much of a difference in the actual watch for $2k more... for me though, if I were to consider this move, it would be more for me having my own name on the card especially if its meant to be an heirloom or something

23 January 2019, 06:05 AM	#20
Halitosis "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: UK Watch: my angry dog Posts: 179	Think of the dealer's motive - he isn't making that offer for your benefit, its for his own interest, so either haggle on his 2k trade up price or keep the 10 year old watch. It'll look exactly the same on your wrist and you'll have money in your pocket

23 January 2019, 06:09 AM	#21
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	If the one you purchased from the Doctor looks just like new and you still peeled some plastic off of it take the extra $2K and go on vacation... Or put it towards your next watch? Lots you can do with $2K... Did you get all the original boxes, tang tags, paperwork and warranty card with the watch from the Doc ? It's already out of warranty so unless your name on it is worth the extra money I'd say call it a day and be happy... Beautiful Watch enjoy it , I have the Blue dial one...

23 January 2019, 09:02 AM	#22
georgekart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,491	First of all your difference isn't 2k. Your watch is 10 years old. It needs servicing. AFAIK servicing at RSC costs about 1k. Lets say you do it for 500 at your jewler. Most likely he knows how to service 3135, it's not a new movement. So you have 1-1.5k difference. Is it worth to have a new watch for 1.5k? If it is your first Rolex/expensive watch it might. For that psychological factor. If not, up to you to decide. Does it bother you it is used? Do you care? I don't think it will affect value. If I were you I probably would. But if it was an offer to exchange for bluesy, that'd be an easy choice.

23 January 2019, 09:36 PM	#29
Gotgolf52 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Paradise Island Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 970	For $2k, I think it’s worth it to have my name on the warranty card and worry free for another 10 years. But that just me.

23 January 2019, 10:38 PM	#30
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,749	Nothing wrong with keeping the watch you have but it will need a service at some point. I know 2k is a lot of money but not really, depending on how you look at it. A new watch with complete box and papers and warranty for five years is appealing. When you take the service costs out of the 2k it is a lot more interesting. If you should decide to flip the watch, the newer model under warranty will bring more value. I would do the deal for the new watch. Make my own history with it and there is something about getting a new watch. Not just new to you. In the end the money is too close, taking into account service and age, not to get the new one. Go for it.

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