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lapince · 1 October 2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I wear watches pretty much everyday. None of the watches I value will EVER end up looking like that. The value of that watch at this point is purely sentimental because of how it was treated. To me that is unfortunate, because there is one less of these in the world in collectible condition.

As far as polishing, what would be the point of polishing a case that damaged? There wouldn't be any case left!

Anyway, I'm happy that he has a sentimental memento of his father, but very very sad for the watch...

I must agree that it's sad for the watch, for sports or things of the sort I always wear a Rolex, they are tanks and in case of some serious scratches you can polish it there's enough metal on it, whereas on a Nautilus, especially 5711 and 5712, it's so thin that polishing it would take off half the metal on it.

lapince · 1 October 2014, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Quotron

Very cool story. Seems he really has a strong connection to the watch, it's nice to see it can handle all that stuff and still come out looking sharp, even though it's a little battered.

I would say more than a little battered, for me it is seriously beat up…

Passionata · 1 October 2014, 05:36 PM

Great piece i think the original Genta case was more robust than the 57xx series.

Cru Jones · 1 October 2014, 07:51 PM

love it! thanks for the post and pix.

zama · 1 October 2014, 08:09 PM

Have seen ones for sale that are close to that level of "lived in," I think it is fair to say its value remains for sentimental value more than any other reason.

subtona · 1 October 2014, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

I wear watches pretty much everyday. None of the watches I value will EVER end up looking like that. The value of that watch at this point is purely sentimental because of how it was treated. To me that is unfortunate, because there is one less of these in the world in collectible condition.

As far as polishing, what would be the point of polishing a case that damaged? There wouldn't be any case left!

Anyway, I'm happy that he has a sentimental memento of his father, but very very sad for the watch...

In fairness the bulk of the wear may have been from his father before he received it? The case appears to have fine scratches covering it but I don't see any severe dings or dents. The bracelet fit surprisingly tight and just as a new model, it would not be uncommon for the bezel to be replaced if need, all in all I would think the watch could be brought back to fine condition If owner requested at service.

The submariner I wore for 20 years day in day out looked quite similar with the exception the sub bracelet was ready for the scrap heap in the end, whereas the Patek bracelet actually, to me, seemed to hold up far better.

I am curious what Patek can do regarding older case parts, we know they will always replace mechanical parts that are needed, I wonder if they also would have a supply or original manufacturing process remaining for things like a vintage bezel?

QueueCumber · 1 October 2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by subtona

In fairness the bulk of the wear may have been from his father before he received it? The case appears to have fine scratches covering it but I don't see any severe dings or dents. The bracelet fit surprisingly tight and just as a new model, it would not be uncommon for the bezel to be replaced if need, all in all I would think the watch could be brought back to fine condition If owner requested at service.

The submariner I wore for 20 years day in day out looked quite similar with the exception the sub bracelet was ready for the scrap heap in the end, whereas the Patek bracelet actually, to me, seemed to hold up far better.

I am curious what Patek can do regarding older case parts, we know they will always replace mechanical parts that are needed, I wonder if they also would have a supply or original manufacturing process remaining for things like a vintage bezel?

If Patek has NOS bezels, that would be great. I would imagine if this piece could be restored to period correct and excellent condition that it would be worth quite a bit. That dial may be worth quite a bit alone.

subtona · 1 October 2014, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by QueueCumber

If Patek has NOS bezels, that would be great. I would imagine if this piece could be restored to period correct and excellent condition that it would be worth quite a bit. That dial may be worth quite a bit alone.

Agree on that. The dial is quite unique along with the hands and markers.

Does anyone know what the "o Swiss o" means ?

JorgeCCW · 1 October 2014, 09:12 PM

Interesting, but like they say on tv " Don't try to this at home "

Quotron · 2 October 2014, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Does anyone know what the "o Swiss o" means ?

It should be a sigma

Time Exposure · 2 October 2014, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Quotron

It should be a sigma

...which denotes the markers are solid gold. Not sure if this was only for a brief time? Certainly in times preceding and following the use of the Sigma, the markers were still solid gold?

subtona · 2 October 2014, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Quotron

It should be a sigma

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Originally Posted by Time Exposure

...which denotes the markers are solid gold. Not sure if this was only for a brief time? Certainly in times preceding and following the use of the Sigma, the markers were still solid gold?

Thanks guys, interesting piece of info

Tay821 · 27 March 2017, 10:26 AM

This is awesome and everyone asking whether or not a 5711 is for them should read.

bobbystevenson · 27 March 2017, 10:54 AM

HODINKEE wrote about sigma dials recently:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/what-is-a-sigma-dial

jmiicustomz · 27 March 2017, 11:33 AM

That's awesome and a great testament to the watch.

To know the future is to be trapped by it

Paul_I · 27 March 2017, 11:53 AM

I love it as well. Good for him. If I actually wore my YM1 for sailing I'd want it to look just as beat up when I'm gone.

brandrea · 27 March 2017, 11:57 AM

Nice Gus, thanks for sharing.

Maltie · 28 March 2017, 01:37 PM

Well well, this guy surely enjoys wristtime with his Nautilus

yessir69 · 29 March 2017, 01:51 AM

That's awesome. Just wish I could keep a watch long enough to get that kind of wear and patina...

SpeedShift · 30 March 2017, 06:01 AM

Respect!

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subtona · 30 March 2017, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

Nice Gus, thanks for sharing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maltie

Well well, this guy surely enjoys wristtime with his Nautilus

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Originally Posted by yessir69

That's awesome. Just wish I could keep a watch long enough to get that kind of wear and patina...

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Originally Posted by SpeedShift

Respect!

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Love these responses, priorities in order

Superburrito · 31 March 2017, 07:58 AM

That's really incredible. I give huge kudos to anyone who actually uses the nice things they own rather than having a safe queen or garage queen.

Lordofrolex · 31 March 2017, 08:27 AM

Id do the same

Newbie@SIN · 6 May 2017, 12:19 AM

Respect! And this is coming from a guy who just got his Nautilus 5711 sized today. I guess scratches will happen inevitably.....

sea-dweller · 6 May 2017, 01:34 AM

Love the "features" on it!

The Argonaut · 12 January 2019, 02:43 AM

Since the dawn of time and for the 99% of all watch owners, owning and wearing one watch has been the norm. I applaud him for using the watch as a tool. Although, it's a curious situation when many congratulate him for using a product as it was intended--as an everyday watch. "Way to go Jim, driving that new blue car every day. Bold decision. I'd have bought several more to keep the miles off the blue one."

chrissimons · 12 January 2019, 03:40 AM

In that case the moto is for true :
"You never actually own a Patek Philippe. You merely look after it for the next generation"

Rwatcher · 14 January 2019, 09:15 PM

Brilliant to see such a loved piece.

Thanks for sharing the picture.

Ichiran · 14 January 2019, 09:47 PM

I would love to receive such a piece from my father. Priceless!

Rsdecker971 · 14 January 2019, 09:47 PM

I suspect that it looks better in real life than the pictures let on. Nautilus as a workhorse - I never imagined it. This thread should have been called ‘Beauty and the Beating’ Thanks for sharing!

1 October 2014, 05:36 PM	#33
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	Great piece i think the original Genta case was more robust than the 57xx series. __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

1 October 2014, 08:09 PM	#35
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,806	Have seen ones for sale that are close to that level of "lived in," I think it is fair to say its value remains for sentimental value more than any other reason. __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

1 October 2014, 09:12 PM	#39
JorgeCCW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Jorge Location: Ohio, USA Watch: Rolex,Patek and AP Posts: 4,675	Interesting, but like they say on tv " Don't try to this at home " __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nothing happens until something moves " Albert Einstein

27 March 2017, 11:53 AM	#46
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	I love it as well. Good for him. If I actually wore my YM1 for sailing I'd want it to look just as beat up when I'm gone. __________________

31 March 2017, 08:27 AM	#53
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	Id do the same __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

1 October 2014, 07:51 PM	#34
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,495	love it! thanks for the post and pix.

27 March 2017, 10:26 AM	#43
Tay821 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 913	This is awesome and everyone asking whether or not a 5711 is for them should read.

27 March 2017, 10:54 AM	#44
bobbystevenson "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 246	HODINKEE wrote about sigma dials recently: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/what-is-a-sigma-dial

27 March 2017, 11:33 AM	#45
jmiicustomz "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: John Location: North Carolina Watch: 1953 pre explorer Posts: 2,758	That's awesome and a great testament to the watch. To know the future is to be trapped by it

27 March 2017, 11:57 AM	#47
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,674	Nice Gus, thanks for sharing.

28 March 2017, 01:37 PM	#48
Maltie "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Belgium Posts: 403	Well well, this guy surely enjoys wristtime with his Nautilus

29 March 2017, 01:51 AM	#49
yessir69 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 3,212	That's awesome. Just wish I could keep a watch long enough to get that kind of wear and patina...

30 March 2017, 06:01 AM	#50
SpeedShift "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 37	Respect! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 March 2017, 07:58 AM	#52
Superburrito "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: California Watch: 26420RO Posts: 448	That's really incredible. I give huge kudos to anyone who actually uses the nice things they own rather than having a safe queen or garage queen.

6 May 2017, 12:19 AM	#54
Newbie@SIN "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Singapore Posts: 316	Respect! And this is coming from a guy who just got his Nautilus 5711 sized today. I guess scratches will happen inevitably.....

6 May 2017, 01:34 AM	#55
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	Love the "features" on it! __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

12 January 2019, 02:43 AM	#56
The Argonaut "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: VA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 1,373	Since the dawn of time and for the 99% of all watch owners, owning and wearing one watch has been the norm. I applaud him for using the watch as a tool. Although, it's a curious situation when many congratulate him for using a product as it was intended--as an everyday watch. "Way to go Jim, driving that new blue car every day. Bold decision. I'd have bought several more to keep the miles off the blue one."

12 January 2019, 03:40 AM	#57
chrissimons "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: FR Posts: 119	In that case the moto is for true : "You never actually own a Patek Philippe. You merely look after it for the next generation"

14 January 2019, 09:15 PM	#58
Rwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North,UK Posts: 445	Brilliant to see such a loved piece. Thanks for sharing the picture.

14 January 2019, 09:47 PM	#59
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,621	I would love to receive such a piece from my father. Priceless!

14 January 2019, 09:47 PM	#60
Rsdecker971 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Randolph Location: Off beaten path Posts: 118	I suspect that it looks better in real life than the pictures let on. Nautilus as a workhorse - I never imagined it. This thread should have been called ‘Beauty and the Beating’ Thanks for sharing!

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