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helloworldies · 9 April 2019, 09:15 PM

Hi Everyone

the Patek website list the 5711 with a cal 26-330 movement.
Is this a non-hacking movement like the 324?
It distinguishes it from the 5167 I guess.
This is probably old news so apologies if I missed it earlier

Cheers!

Sam Philip · 9 April 2019, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helloworldies

Hi Everyone

the Patek website list the 5711 with a cal 26-330 movement.
Is this a non-hacking movement like the 324?
It distinguishes it from the 5167 I guess.
This is probably old news so apologies if I missed it earlier

Cheers!

Until recently 5711 had the caliber 324 SC, the same movement as 5167. It appears Patek has updated the 5711 with caliber 26-330 SC.

I was told caliber 26-330 SC J SE, the new movement in 5212A has hacking seconds.

Russell996 · 9 April 2019, 10:08 PM

That is huge news. Latest hacking movement added.

incontrol · 9 April 2019, 10:20 PM

Very cool news. An updated movement with hacking!

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AAP8 · 9 April 2019, 11:01 PM

Nice catch OP!

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1A-010
https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1A-011
https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1R-001

Does this mean that the older movement watches are now hotter in the market or do they drop? Seems odd for Patek to just change it and not tell anyone - seems like a great way to cool market on 5711 as now people will want the new caliber.

Snow-Dweller · 9 April 2019, 11:03 PM

Well spotted. They kept that one quiet.

Rwatcher · 9 April 2019, 11:04 PM

BIG NEWS INDEED.

Everyone wanting to rush home and check the 5711 or just me?

Flex368 · 9 April 2019, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AAP8

Does this mean that the older movement watches are now hotter in the market or do they drop?

I´m pretty sure that it won´t affect the price for pre-owned watches at all. Look at the current situation, 315 SC or 324 SC movement, Geneva seal or PP seal, old or new blue dial, people simply buy everything that looks like a 5711.

cascavel · 9 April 2019, 11:10 PM

This is bigger than any of the releases from Basel. What will be the value of the first 5711s with the new movement vs the 324. No one cares about the difference between 5711 with the 315 vs 324 or Geneva seal vs PP seal. Is this going to be the break point because of Hacking Seconds?

jay_kay · 9 April 2019, 11:12 PM

Good spot. Cant't stand that Patek still have mixed images of the blue dials in the photo line up, plus a rear shot with the 26-330 & another shot showing the older 324 movement. I'mm sure they will sort it soon.

RussW · 9 April 2019, 11:18 PM

Big news indeed. Disappointing the power reserve is still quite low though.

key · 9 April 2019, 11:25 PM

Definitely big news but I don’t think it will have much affect on their market price though as Felix pointed out above.

In terms of rarity, this makes the 5711 blue with the new dial introduced in 2018 with the cal 324 one of the fewest produced with only a year of production.

Codik · 9 April 2019, 11:34 PM

It’s not all about rarity, but also perceived quality. If the new movement is regarded as an upgrade, then the newer models will command a premium.

tyngshen · 9 April 2019, 11:44 PM

What I’m more interested in is whether they solved the noisy rotor issue?

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Rwatcher · 9 April 2019, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RussW

Big news indeed. Disappointing the power reserve is still quite low though.

That would of been the mic drop moment if they had increased the reserve and not even shouted about the incremental improvement.

Tay821 · 9 April 2019, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tyngshen

What I’m more interested in is whether they solved the noisy rotor issue?

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LOVE hearing the rotor sound.

BobDyl · 10 April 2019, 12:09 AM

Good for Patek to silently inline the update without feeding the hype machine (Rolex take note) - although not sure it's possible for there to be any more hype around the 5711.

GeraldGentaFan · 10 April 2019, 12:23 AM

My AD told me it would happen, but wasn’t expecting it this fast!

Russell996 · 10 April 2019, 12:29 AM

Patek already had the movement in the latest printed catalogue despite not showing it in a watch.

Russell996 · 10 April 2019, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by key

In terms of rarity, this makes the 5711 blue with the new dial introduced in 2018 with the cal 324 one of the fewest produced with only a year of production.

A one year only production piece.

JR16 · 10 April 2019, 12:55 AM

What are the differences between the 324 and new movements ?

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V25V · 10 April 2019, 01:01 AM

That was a pretty nice catch! Nice improvement I suppose for those who are obsessed with setting their watch to the precise second/minute!

Rushne · 10 April 2019, 01:02 AM

Nice!
Strangely enough I quite like the non hacking. It feels different as none of my other watches don’t have hacking seconds. But, cool they added it.

Maybe they should have timed it with the 20% price bump though hehe

AK797 · 10 April 2019, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AAP8

Nice catch OP!

https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1A-010
https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1A-011
https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1R-001

Does this mean that the older movement watches are now hotter in the market or do they drop? Seems odd for Patek to just change it and not tell anyone - seems like a great way to cool market on 5711 as now people will want the new caliber.

Well hacking is def an improvement so I expect the old models... to rise in value ofc, nothing stops a grey from pushing prices higher.

Russell996 · 10 April 2019, 01:43 AM

How long before the other 324 based pieces get the update, perhaps the new 5726 will be updated even before it is released.

Russell996 · 10 April 2019, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rushne

Maybe they should have timed it with the 20% price bump though hehe

No, only 3-5% from June 1st.

ppalasthira · 10 April 2019, 01:59 AM

That is very cool of PP to do such a move in such a low key manner.

Very classy.

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cascavel · 10 April 2019, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Codik

It’s not all about rarity, but also perceived quality. If the new movement is regarded as an upgrade, then the newer models will command a premium.

And a Rolex Daytona 116520 would sell for more than a 16520.

CamSLC · 10 April 2019, 02:45 AM

Wow thats cool. Great find.

Also interesting about the mash-ups of dial/movements in the gallery on their website.

francoamerican · 10 April 2019, 03:58 AM

Thanks for posting that - it will have no effect on value, but I like the aesthetics of the new movement!

9 April 2019, 09:15 PM	#1
helloworldies "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: ireland Watch: Rolex Vacheron Posts: 297	5711 Hi Everyone the Patek website list the 5711 with a cal 26-330 movement. Is this a non-hacking movement like the 324? It distinguishes it from the 5167 I guess. This is probably old news so apologies if I missed it earlier Cheers!

9 April 2019, 10:20 PM	#4
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	Very cool news. An updated movement with hacking! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

9 April 2019, 11:03 PM	#6
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,275	Well spotted. They kept that one quiet. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. BB58. GMW-B5000D.

9 April 2019, 11:12 PM	#10
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	Good spot. Cant't stand that Patek still have mixed images of the blue dials in the photo line up, plus a rear shot with the 26-330 & another shot showing the older 324 movement. I'mm sure they will sort it soon. __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

9 April 2019, 11:34 PM	#13
Codik "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 284	5711 It’s not all about rarity, but also perceived quality. If the new movement is regarded as an upgrade, then the newer models will command a premium.

9 April 2019, 10:08 PM	#3
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,180	That is huge news. Latest hacking movement added.

9 April 2019, 11:01 PM	#5
AAP8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: AP Location: Cleveland, OH Watch: SubC LN Posts: 428	Nice catch OP! https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1A-010 https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1A-011 https://www.patek.com/en/collection/...us/5711-1R-001 Does this mean that the older movement watches are now hotter in the market or do they drop? Seems odd for Patek to just change it and not tell anyone - seems like a great way to cool market on 5711 as now people will want the new caliber.

9 April 2019, 11:04 PM	#7
Rwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North,UK Posts: 445	BIG NEWS INDEED. Everyone wanting to rush home and check the 5711 or just me?

9 April 2019, 11:10 PM	#9
cascavel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 1,855	This is bigger than any of the releases from Basel. What will be the value of the first 5711s with the new movement vs the 324. No one cares about the difference between 5711 with the 315 vs 324 or Geneva seal vs PP seal. Is this going to be the break point because of Hacking Seconds?

9 April 2019, 11:18 PM	#11
RussW "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: England Watch: 5990 Posts: 3,340	Big news indeed. Disappointing the power reserve is still quite low though.

9 April 2019, 11:25 PM	#12
key "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: N/A Posts: 386	Definitely big news but I don’t think it will have much affect on their market price though as Felix pointed out above. In terms of rarity, this makes the 5711 blue with the new dial introduced in 2018 with the cal 324 one of the fewest produced with only a year of production.

9 April 2019, 11:44 PM	#14
tyngshen "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: united kingdom Posts: 126	What I’m more interested in is whether they solved the noisy rotor issue? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 April 2019, 12:09 AM	#17
BobDyl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 917	5711 Good for Patek to silently inline the update without feeding the hype machine (Rolex take note) - although not sure it's possible for there to be any more hype around the 5711.

10 April 2019, 12:23 AM	#18
GeraldGentaFan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Mark Location: Europe Posts: 644	My AD told me it would happen, but wasn’t expecting it this fast!

10 April 2019, 12:29 AM	#19
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,180	Patek already had the movement in the latest printed catalogue despite not showing it in a watch.

10 April 2019, 12:55 AM	#21
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,187	What are the differences between the 324 and new movements ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

10 April 2019, 01:01 AM	#22
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,340	That was a pretty nice catch! Nice improvement I suppose for those who are obsessed with setting their watch to the precise second/minute!

10 April 2019, 01:02 AM	#23
Rushne 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 862	Nice! Strangely enough I quite like the non hacking. It feels different as none of my other watches don’t have hacking seconds. But, cool they added it. Maybe they should have timed it with the 20% price bump though hehe __________________ Omega: Seamaster Professional 300M 2220.80.00 Rolex: Daytona White Dial 116500LN Rolex: Sky-Dweller Blue Dial Jubilee 336934 Rolex: DateJust 36 Roman White Dial Oyster 126234 Rolex: OP 36 Celebration Dial 126000 Panerai: PAM 422 Patek Philippe: Aquanaut 5167A A. Lange & Söhne: 1815 Annual Calendar @mechanicaltom Stolen: IWC Portuguese 500107 Case number 3853222

10 April 2019, 01:43 AM	#25
Russell996 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: UK Posts: 4,180	How long before the other 324 based pieces get the update, perhaps the new 5726 will be updated even before it is released.

10 April 2019, 01:59 AM	#27
ppalasthira Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: ASK Watch: SubC.5711.D500 Posts: 2,236	That is very cool of PP to do such a move in such a low key manner. Very classy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 April 2019, 02:45 AM	#29
CamSLC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: Rolex & Patek Posts: 1,436	Wow thats cool. Great find. Also interesting about the mash-ups of dial/movements in the gallery on their website.

10 April 2019, 03:58 AM	#30
francoamerican "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: bay area Posts: 571	Thanks for posting that - it will have no effect on value, but I like the aesthetics of the new movement!

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