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Remedy1 · 18 August 2010, 12:02 AM

Whats the verdict. Do you like the old Sub or the new ceramic?

Does anyone have one of each that can be held side by side for comparison pic?

R1@160@alltimes · 18 August 2010, 12:05 AM

I like everything about the new Subc except the super case.

Still prefer the old to the new

esm · 18 August 2010, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remedy1

Whats the verdict. Do you like the old Sub or the new ceramic?

having owned a GMTIIC for a couple of months now - i'd say i like both the old and new Subs

the ceramic shines in a different way to the aluminium insert

would really love to own a black Sub-C in the near future (fingers crossed

)

steubi1 · 18 August 2010, 01:36 AM

I like both my Subs.

Think the big step forward on the new Sub is not the ceramic, but the bracelet.
You really have to wear it, so smooth and comfortable.

Some comparison pics:

subc-lv1.jpg

coSubc-lv.jpg

subc-lv.jpg

Tom

Atomant · 18 August 2010, 01:40 AM

I love the old lv sub and the new ceramic black sub. period.

Remedy1 · 18 August 2010, 01:41 AM

Ok. I'll be the idiot. Which one is the ceramic?

Remedy1 · 18 August 2010, 01:44 AM

Is the new Oyster bracelet the same for all new Rolex's. I have the new oyster in my Milguass. I do like it better than the bracelet on my 2003 Yachtmaster.

TattooedGQ · 18 August 2010, 01:46 AM

I just can't get passed those big lugs.....maybe in person it's better. I need to hit an AD.

steubi1 · 18 August 2010, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remedy1

Ok. I'll be the idiot. Which one is the ceramic?

You are definitely not the idiot.

Left (black) is ceramic.

The big difference between old and new is the maxi case, the wider lugs on the new one. THis you will see immediately.

Tom

TopNotchChach · 18 August 2010, 01:52 AM

I dont have anything to compare it to but i love my sub c. My friend has the 16610 and a blue and gold sub(sorry i dont know the exact "name") and he saw my sub and really liked it.

To me, even though its the same size it looks bigger than the 16610 and thats what i wanted. i didnt want to polish the bracelet of the gmt. dssd was fresh too. but the new sub felt perfect on my wrist. thats what counts.

However, i do want a pepsi gmt. ;)

steubi1 · 18 August 2010, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TattooedGQ

I just can't get passed those big lugs.....maybe in person it's better. I need to hit an AD.

Justin,

go, have a look, wear it...and you will like it!

In the beginning, the wider lugs were a deal killer for me. I thought I will never buy the new Sub.

Then, I tried it on, and guess what...bought it, and today, it still grows on me; I like it more and more every day.
Have six "old" classics beside, and sometimes I think "well isn't there missing something" when I look at them...funny, but true.

Regards
Tom

rolex222 · 18 August 2010, 02:04 AM

Being an owner of the 16610 old school sub, i have to say I personally like the old sub. I am not biased even i have the old sub. I could just sell it anytime and upgrade to the new sub if i really love it, but i don't. My 16610 is a keeper. And in fact i have been lucky to have bought it before i can still buy a brand new 16610.
The super case just bothers me. Out of proportion, too wide for the bracelet.
The ceramic bezel, i am ok with it, but worried about it's tendency to shatter. It sure is pretty and shinny, however i don't think it's a good match for a sssports model, on a tt model maybe its better,and it reminds me of rado watches, sorry.
Maxi dial is ok, no problem with it.
New clasp is better than old one i have to say.

Rolesor · 18 August 2010, 02:04 AM

I love the new ceramic!!

TopNotchChach · 18 August 2010, 02:06 AM

Try it, youll like it!

hahaha. but seriously once you try it on youll know for sure. you dont want to have the thought of what could have been hahahaha.
:)

Colorao · 18 August 2010, 02:09 AM

I don't dislike the new Sub-C, however I can't justify paying upwards of 7000 dollars for it. Rolex prices are getting obscene IMO. I don't see how a piece of ceramic, maxicase and changes to bracelet can amount to a more than 2000 dollar difference. I plan on sticking with my M series sub and z series DJ for the time being...

wilfreb · 18 August 2010, 02:24 AM

iu just love the Cerachrom too much.

the old subs looks like that, old. IMO

WyoWatch · 18 August 2010, 02:58 AM

jeremyam · 18 August 2010, 06:40 AM

Of all the improvements to the new Sub, my personal opinion is that the introduction of ceramic, while inevitable, is the least necessary. When I was doing research for the 16610 purchase about 6 months ago, I had never come across any complaints related to bezel insert. As a matter of fact, there was praise for it's durability, and ease of replacing (cost and do-it-yourself nature of the job). I'm not certain what holds true now with ceramic. Swapping inserts will be near to impossible now:( WYOWATCH's picture is beautiful- suffice it to say the SUB is a great looking watch, has been and probably always will, the new SUBc carries the tradition on into the next decade!

TattooedGQ · 18 August 2010, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steubi1

Justin,

go, have a look, wear it...and you will like it!

Hey Tom,

That's what I'm afraid of!!

I'm really starting to like the new LV, If the lugs are OK in person, I might have to spring for one. At least i can justify it as being substantially different than my other 2 subs.

MartC · 18 August 2010, 07:06 AM

Love the new bezel insert and the clasp, but that's pretty much where it ends for me. I think the new lugs are disproportionately large compared to the bracelet width, and prefer the way the older case tapers down more.

buke45 · 18 August 2010, 09:57 AM

I like the watch but I hate the huge clasp, that is the reason I did not buy the TT Blue. It is almost twice the size of the old one. Also the bezel is not black it changes color between tone of gray depending on how the light hits it.

HL65 · 18 August 2010, 10:57 AM

They are both nice!! Old one will always be a classic!!

mpkRolex · 18 August 2010, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Remedy1

Whats the verdict. Do you like the old Sub or the new ceramic?

Does anyone have one of each that can be held side by side for comparison pic?

I havent seen the new SubC yet but I have the GMTiic which I like. I think I will like Subc better than my 16610.. But I will not buy it for 7K+..no way.

EE33 · 18 August 2010, 11:13 AM

The Ceramic Sub is Massive as compared with the older one (In real life)

nejo · 18 August 2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EE33

The Ceramic Sub is Massive as compared with the older one (In real life)

That blue ceramic is very nice. Must have one !

scl6118 · 18 August 2010, 12:20 PM

The new one looks better IMO!

tulsaokusa · 18 August 2010, 01:57 PM

The new Sub-c is the new standard for the iconic Sub.
The Sub-c took a quantum leap this year in upgrades.

Sub-c all the way.

andrew79 · 18 August 2010, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scl6118

The new one looks better IMO!

18 August 2010, 12:02 AM	#1
Remedy1 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Erik Location: Melbourne Florida Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 24	Lets talk Ceramic Whats the verdict. Do you like the old Sub or the new ceramic? Does anyone have one of each that can be held side by side for comparison pic?

18 August 2010, 12:05 AM	#2
R1@160@alltimes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: ♛ Posts: 4,408	I like everything about the new Subc except the super case. Still prefer the old to the new __________________

18 August 2010, 01:40 AM	#5
Atomant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fernwood Posts: 3,455	I love the old lv sub and the new ceramic black sub. period. __________________ 116613LN 16600SD 16610LV 116710 16710 16570 Speedy 3570.50 PAM25 Oris TT1 and a bunch of G-Shocks. Flipped: Daytona 116520 Seamaster 2231.80

18 August 2010, 01:46 AM	#8
TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	I just can't get passed those big lugs.....maybe in person it's better. I need to hit an AD. __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

18 August 2010, 02:04 AM	#13
Rolesor "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Brandon Location: Toronto, ON Watch: 116234 Posts: 4,141	I love the new ceramic!! __________________ 116234 - Blue Concentric Dial - Fluted Bezel - Oyster Bracelet

18 August 2010, 01:36 AM	#4
steubi1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: Switzerland Watch: too many Posts: 1,149	I like both my Subs. Think the big step forward on the new Sub is not the ceramic, but the bracelet. You really have to wear it, so smooth and comfortable. Some comparison pics: subc-lv1.jpg coSubc-lv.jpg subc-lv.jpg Tom

18 August 2010, 01:41 AM	#6
Remedy1 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Erik Location: Melbourne Florida Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 24	Ok. I'll be the idiot. Which one is the ceramic?

18 August 2010, 01:44 AM	#7
Remedy1 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Erik Location: Melbourne Florida Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 24	Is the new Oyster bracelet the same for all new Rolex's. I have the new oyster in my Milguass. I do like it better than the bracelet on my 2003 Yachtmaster.

18 August 2010, 01:52 AM	#10
TopNotchChach "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Near the Ocean! Watch: 116610 Posts: 1,253	I dont have anything to compare it to but i love my sub c. My friend has the 16610 and a blue and gold sub(sorry i dont know the exact "name") and he saw my sub and really liked it. To me, even though its the same size it looks bigger than the 16610 and thats what i wanted. i didnt want to polish the bracelet of the gmt. dssd was fresh too. but the new sub felt perfect on my wrist. thats what counts. However, i do want a pepsi gmt. ;)

18 August 2010, 02:04 AM	#12
rolex222 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Watch: 16610 SUB Posts: 66	Being an owner of the 16610 old school sub, i have to say I personally like the old sub. I am not biased even i have the old sub. I could just sell it anytime and upgrade to the new sub if i really love it, but i don't. My 16610 is a keeper. And in fact i have been lucky to have bought it before i can still buy a brand new 16610. The super case just bothers me. Out of proportion, too wide for the bracelet. The ceramic bezel, i am ok with it, but worried about it's tendency to shatter. It sure is pretty and shinny, however i don't think it's a good match for a sssports model, on a tt model maybe its better,and it reminds me of rado watches, sorry. Maxi dial is ok, no problem with it. New clasp is better than old one i have to say.

18 August 2010, 02:06 AM	#14
TopNotchChach "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Near the Ocean! Watch: 116610 Posts: 1,253	Try it, youll like it! hahaha. but seriously once you try it on youll know for sure. you dont want to have the thought of what could have been hahahaha. :)

18 August 2010, 02:09 AM	#15
Colorao "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Somewhere Watch: SS M-Submariner Posts: 151	I don't dislike the new Sub-C, however I can't justify paying upwards of 7000 dollars for it. Rolex prices are getting obscene IMO. I don't see how a piece of ceramic, maxicase and changes to bracelet can amount to a more than 2000 dollar difference. I plan on sticking with my M series sub and z series DJ for the time being...

18 August 2010, 02:24 AM	#16
wilfreb "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 537	iu just love the Cerachrom too much. the old subs looks like that, old. IMO

18 August 2010, 02:58 AM	#17
WyoWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Chad Location: USA Watch: 1675 GMT and Sub C Posts: 1,443	I am VERY satisfied with my purchase..

18 August 2010, 06:40 AM	#18
jeremyam Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Toronto, Ontario Watch: 16610 V Posts: 511	Of all the improvements to the new Sub, my personal opinion is that the introduction of ceramic, while inevitable, is the least necessary. When I was doing research for the 16610 purchase about 6 months ago, I had never come across any complaints related to bezel insert. As a matter of fact, there was praise for it's durability, and ease of replacing (cost and do-it-yourself nature of the job). I'm not certain what holds true now with ceramic. Swapping inserts will be near to impossible now:( WYOWATCH's picture is beautiful- suffice it to say the SUB is a great looking watch, has been and probably always will, the new SUBc carries the tradition on into the next decade!

18 August 2010, 07:06 AM	#20
MartC "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Martin Location: Hertfordshire UK Watch: Platinum YM Posts: 32	Love the new bezel insert and the clasp, but that's pretty much where it ends for me. I think the new lugs are disproportionately large compared to the bracelet width, and prefer the way the older case tapers down more.

18 August 2010, 09:57 AM	#21
buke45 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Ponce, PR Watch: Your Butt Posts: 1,464	I like the watch but I hate the huge clasp, that is the reason I did not buy the TT Blue. It is almost twice the size of the old one. Also the bezel is not black it changes color between tone of gray depending on how the light hits it.

18 August 2010, 10:57 AM	#22
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,398	They are both nice!! Old one will always be a classic!! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

18 August 2010, 11:13 AM	#24
EE33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Des Location: China Watch: 16613 16710 116520 Posts: 2,841	The Ceramic Sub is Massive as compared with the older one (In real life)

18 August 2010, 12:20 PM	#26
scl6118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Shawn Location: United States Watch: SS GMT IIC Posts: 1,624	The new one looks better IMO! __________________ Current: SS GMT IIC Former: Panerai 114 Former: Breitling Hercules :

18 August 2010, 01:57 PM	#27
tulsaokusa Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: N/A Location: N/A Watch: 2010 SS/Black SubC Posts: 773	The new Sub-c is the new standard for the iconic Sub. The Sub-c took a quantum leap this year in upgrades. Sub-c all the way.

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