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samuelhuntington · 14 July 2013, 01:18 AM

So I have been looking a lot lately at patek's and love the 5711 among other references. Although once I got over the hefty price tag for a steel watch I looked again at the white gold sub 116619, which when I first got into watches I thought would always be out of my reach. I have had a 16610 and the new 114060 but fliped them in the end because they were to common for me. The white gold sub though is anything but common. So I am having a little trouble deciding which way to go. They both have there pros. I have a good idea what the fine people here on the rolex forums will pick, I would also like to hear from the people that have both or own one or the other. I really want to add a patek to my collection but its hard to ignore the sub at the same price give or take. So what say you?

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beshannon · 14 July 2013, 01:25 AM

Well I just got my 5711 in white and I am thrilled. I would not compare a Sub to the 5711 no matter what metal it is in.

boogiebot · 14 July 2013, 01:29 AM

Oh boy tough call. I think most watch guys would say the 5711. But I'm sure the appeal to owning WG must be pretty strong. Really you can't go wrong with either. In terms of long term value IMO the 5711 will always perform better. If your choice is not resale value based then go for whichever sings to you.

Good luck as both watches are beautiful.

ecsub44 · 14 July 2013, 01:29 AM

Patek...all day, every day.

landroverking · 14 July 2013, 01:30 AM

Patek

kilyung · 14 July 2013, 01:33 AM

I own both and they're keepers so would recommend getting both eventually. However I'd get the 5711 first as its harder to find and/or get a discount.

Having said that the 116619 is the better everyday watch. If you're only going to own one watch, get the Sub first, then the 5711.

kilyung · 14 July 2013, 01:36 AM

joere · 14 July 2013, 01:39 AM

I had a Nautilus 3800. Not as accurate as my Sub. Annoyed that Patek requires annual service to guarantee water resistance! Patek comfortable but fragile. Scratches very readily. Too much force pulling on stem to set watch and crown comes completely out! I would vote for Sub in everything but potential resale value.

Knappo 1307 · 14 July 2013, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beshannon

Well I just got my 5711 in white and I am thrilled. I would not compare a Sub to the 5711 no matter what metal it is in.

x2

kilyung · 14 July 2013, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joere

I had a Nautilus 3800. Not as accurate as my Sub. Annoyed that Patek requires annual service to guarantee water resistance! Patek comfortable but fragile. Scratches very readily. Too much force pulling on stem to set watch and crown comes completely out! I would vote for Sub in everything but potential resale value.

A) Accuracy has more to do with condition of the movement. I have had 60 yr old 15J watches keep better time than my Rolexes.
B) Rolex recommends an annual water resistance check as well.
C) My PPs have been as durable as any Rolex. However they were never designed to climb mountains or plunge to the deepest depths. Pick the right tool for the job.
D) All watches, other than ceramic, scratch easily. We live with it.
E) The stem on some of my Rolexes and APs have come out. Just have to be careful.

zeuloa · 14 July 2013, 01:52 AM

I would go for 5711, if not too "common" for you that is...

codecow · 14 July 2013, 01:57 AM

I have tried both of them on at my AD and I couldn't imagine picking the Sub.

samuelhuntington · 14 July 2013, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zeuloa

I would go for 5711, if not too "common" for you that is...

Haha. No I don't think so. I love the submariner it's just that I litlerly see them where ever I go. I don't think I would run in to that with the 116619 or 5711. But don't get me wrong the sub is great and it's what got me into watches

joere · 14 July 2013, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

A) Accuracy has more to do with condition of the movement. I have had 60 yr old 15J watches keep better time than my Rolexes.
B) Rolex recommends an annual water resistance check as well.
C) My PPs have been as durable as any Rolex. However they were never designed to climb mountains or plunge to the deepest depths. Pick the right tool for the job.
D) All watches, other than ceramic, scratch easily. We live with it.
E) The stem on some of my Rolexes and APs have come out. Just have to be careful.

I bought the Patek new. While the accuracy was not bad, it was certainly not within 1-2 seconds a day as are my 16520 and 14060. The Patek warranty on my 3800 clearly stated annual service by Patek to guarantee water resistance, not just a pressure test as with Rolex. I did send it to Stern through the AD when it was two years old. 680.00 and it came back with a speck of lint inside the crystal! Sold it. Love Patek's, but not their sports models.

Vipes · 14 July 2013, 02:13 AM

My vote is for the 5711. If you want something a little less common then the PP is for you. I love mine but I'm also interested in the WG sub. Actually, I'm going to take a look at it at my AD later today.

travisb · 14 July 2013, 02:15 AM

I'd go Patek.

Lanfor · 14 July 2013, 02:18 AM

5711

Draxler · 14 July 2013, 02:19 AM

Patek

kilyung · 14 July 2013, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joere

I bought the Patek new. While the accuracy was not bad, it was certainly not within 1-2 seconds a day as are my 16520 and 14060. The Patek warranty on my 3800 clearly stated annual service by Patek to guarantee water resistance, not just a pressure test as with Rolex. I did send it to Stern through the AD when it was two years old. 680.00 and it came back with a speck of lint inside the crystal! Sold it. Love Patek's, but not their sports models.

I'm not doubting you, just pointing out that you can have issues with any watch regardless of brand.

jonf · 14 July 2013, 02:26 AM

Patek IMHO.

samuelhuntington · 14 July 2013, 02:44 AM

Wow. Lots of love for patek here. I figured it would be for the sub. Thanks for all your comments and pics!

HL65 · 14 July 2013, 03:09 AM

5711 but with that said get one that sings to you most! Ether way you won't lose!

GermanyMatt · 14 July 2013, 03:16 AM

Patek

texex91 · 14 July 2013, 03:20 AM

Well depends upon your lifestyle.

Do you like sporty things, wear short/flip flops, casual in general? I'd go WG Sub all day. It's a watch that you can also dress up with a suit and be fine.

The 5711 (to me--and you have to try it yourself) is too small. However, it does make a nice dressier watch (even though it's a Naut) over the Sub.

Again comes down to your lifestyle--not ours.

Because for me, I'd get the WG Sub first, then a 5711--but that fits when/where/how I wear watches.

The question wasn't which brand or watch is better, but rather which would I buy now.

Just my .02.

woodsworth · 14 July 2013, 03:21 AM

Go with Genta!

www777 · 14 July 2013, 03:23 AM

Rolex for me. I have owned both but now just have the sub. I tended to baby the Patek but never worried about the Rolex.

Billywiz · 14 July 2013, 04:29 AM

I wouldnt even have to think about it for a second...the rolex because i think the patek is simply plain ugly.

Thebiglagu · 14 July 2013, 05:31 AM

Both are sweet but nothing says "what's up" better than an 18k yellow gold sub!

elohtee · 14 July 2013, 05:52 AM

Lol. PP 101%... both are great pieces however

sub2013 · 14 July 2013, 05:59 AM

Patek

14 July 2013, 01:18 AM	#1
samuelhuntington "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: new hampshire Watch: 5167, 16570, 5513 Posts: 493	Rolex 116619 or Patek 5711? So I have been looking a lot lately at patek's and love the 5711 among other references. Although once I got over the hefty price tag for a steel watch I looked again at the white gold sub 116619, which when I first got into watches I thought would always be out of my reach. I have had a 16610 and the new 114060 but fliped them in the end because they were to common for me. The white gold sub though is anything but common. So I am having a little trouble deciding which way to go. They both have there pros. I have a good idea what the fine people here on the rolex forums will pick, I would also like to hear from the people that have both or own one or the other. I really want to add a patek to my collection but its hard to ignore the sub at the same price give or take. So what say you? Not my photos. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1373728674.866001.jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1373728707.158213.jpg

14 July 2013, 01:25 AM	#2
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,895	Well I just got my 5711 in white and I am thrilled. I would not compare a Sub to the 5711 no matter what metal it is in. __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

14 July 2013, 01:29 AM	#4
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	Patek...all day, every day. __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

14 July 2013, 02:18 AM	#17
Lanfor "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: London Watch: Submariner-16610LV Posts: 1,798	5711 __________________ Rolex Submariner - 16610LV

14 July 2013, 03:09 AM	#22
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,401	5711 but with that said get one that sings to you most! Ether way you won't lose! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

14 July 2013, 01:29 AM	#3
boogiebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: canada Watch: me post! Posts: 3,804	Oh boy tough call. I think most watch guys would say the 5711. But I'm sure the appeal to owning WG must be pretty strong. Really you can't go wrong with either. In terms of long term value IMO the 5711 will always perform better. If your choice is not resale value based then go for whichever sings to you. Good luck as both watches are beautiful.

14 July 2013, 01:30 AM	#5
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Patek

14 July 2013, 01:33 AM	#6
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	I own both and they're keepers so would recommend getting both eventually. However I'd get the 5711 first as its harder to find and/or get a discount. Having said that the 116619 is the better everyday watch. If you're only going to own one watch, get the Sub first, then the 5711.

14 July 2013, 01:36 AM	#7
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870

14 July 2013, 01:39 AM	#8
joere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: usa Posts: 36	I had a Nautilus 3800. Not as accurate as my Sub. Annoyed that Patek requires annual service to guarantee water resistance! Patek comfortable but fragile. Scratches very readily. Too much force pulling on stem to set watch and crown comes completely out! I would vote for Sub in everything but potential resale value.

14 July 2013, 01:52 AM	#11
zeuloa "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jose Location: Here Watch: SEA-DWELLER Posts: 2,232	I would go for 5711, if not too "common" for you that is...

14 July 2013, 01:57 AM	#12
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 4,786	I have tried both of them on at my AD and I couldn't imagine picking the Sub.

14 July 2013, 02:13 AM	#15
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,838	My vote is for the 5711. If you want something a little less common then the PP is for you. I love mine but I'm also interested in the WG sub. Actually, I'm going to take a look at it at my AD later today.

14 July 2013, 02:15 AM	#16
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,224	I'd go Patek.

14 July 2013, 02:19 AM	#18
Draxler "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovenia - EU Watch: Rolex Posts: 377	Patek

14 July 2013, 02:26 AM	#20
jonf "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Canada Posts: 210	Patek IMHO.

14 July 2013, 02:44 AM	#21
samuelhuntington "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: new hampshire Watch: 5167, 16570, 5513 Posts: 493	Wow. Lots of love for patek here. I figured it would be for the sub. Thanks for all your comments and pics!

14 July 2013, 03:16 AM	#23
GermanyMatt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Matt Location: Northern VA Watch: 126711, 126610 Posts: 1,803	Patek

14 July 2013, 03:20 AM	#24
texex91 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: . Posts: 17,898	Well depends upon your lifestyle. Do you like sporty things, wear short/flip flops, casual in general? I'd go WG Sub all day. It's a watch that you can also dress up with a suit and be fine. The 5711 (to me--and you have to try it yourself) is too small. However, it does make a nice dressier watch (even though it's a Naut) over the Sub. Again comes down to your lifestyle--not ours. Because for me, I'd get the WG Sub first, then a 5711--but that fits when/where/how I wear watches. The question wasn't which brand or watch is better, but rather which would I buy now. Just my .02.

14 July 2013, 03:21 AM	#25
woodsworth "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: 100 Acre Wood Posts: 959	Go with Genta!

14 July 2013, 03:23 AM	#26
www777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,252	Rolex for me. I have owned both but now just have the sub. I tended to baby the Patek but never worried about the Rolex.

14 July 2013, 04:29 AM	#27
Billywiz Banned Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: John Location: Florida Watch: YG President Posts: 2,090	I wouldnt even have to think about it for a second...the rolex because i think the patek is simply plain ugly.

14 July 2013, 05:31 AM	#28
Thebiglagu "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Tommy Location: New jersey Watch: Rolex 16610 Posts: 457	Both are sweet but nothing says "what's up" better than an 18k yellow gold sub!

14 July 2013, 05:52 AM	#29
elohtee "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: OT Location: North Posts: 64	Lol. PP 101%... both are great pieces however

14 July 2013, 05:59 AM	#30
sub2013 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Scott Location: HK Georgia, USA Watch: 5330/8 Posts: 61	Patek

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