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pwojnar · 23 May 2016, 09:31 AM

Hi guys, I don't post here much since I only have one Rolex which I bought this month, I usually post on the OF but I need some advice. I am looking at a Tudor Sub 7016/0 with a 75xxxx serial dating it to 1971. It was brought to my attention that there are a few red flags. I was notified that the dial may either be a fake or a service replacement, if it is a replacement I do not mind. Should it read SWISS-T<25 like this one does or just T SWISS T? The case looks almost too sharp? The case back appears to be heavily polished, but that does not concern me too much but should it not read 71 instead of 68? The crystal is a replacement too I believe, but that is an easy fix. The watch is being offered to me by a friend, he is not misleading me, I just want to know what I'm looking at and let him know as well so that we are both more educated. Thanks for the help everyone.

linesiders · 23 May 2016, 10:21 AM

Whole thing is fake, well case, dial, hands, insert are fake. Movement looks standard ETA with an attached TUDOR rotor, as opposed to a Tudor ETA from another mother.

Take a big pass on this one!

onkyo · 23 May 2016, 10:30 AM

a mm from missing the case on the ref #....

ps.... find a new friend.

pwojnar · 23 May 2016, 10:51 AM

Thanks for the responses. I truly don't think he is being deceitful. He is a nice older gentleman I work with. I believe that he was duped when it was sold to him. I will tell him what I have found out so that he can ask for his money back from the seller since he has not had it that long. Thanks again.

onkyo · 23 May 2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pwojnar

Thanks for the responses. I truly don't think he is being deceitful. He is a nice older gentleman I work with. I believe that he was duped when it was sold to him. I will tell him what I have found out so that he can ask for his money back from the seller since he has not had it that long. Thanks again.

Yeah, a refund is in order..... I hate when good people get tricked!

harry in montreal · 23 May 2016, 12:07 PM

Many people have been taken by these fakes. My only point of cynicism is that the watch is 45 years old. It should never be so flawless. There is no aging to it

linesiders · 23 May 2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pwojnar

Thanks for the responses. I truly don't think he is being deceitful. He is a nice older gentleman I work with. I believe that he was duped when it was sold to him. I will tell him what I have found out so that he can ask for his money back from the seller since he has not had it that long. Thanks again.

If you want to have your friend get some ammo on this being a fake, reach out and we can supply that. Unfortunately a lot of people are taken in by these so your friend may have been duped.

crowncollection · 23 May 2016, 01:02 PM

clearly fake

pwojnar · 23 May 2016, 01:14 PM

I sent him a link to the thread to bring to the seller's attention. Thanks for the help everyone

cajunron · 24 May 2016, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Many people have been taken by these fakes. My only point of cynicism is that the watch is 45 years old. It should never be so flawless. There is no aging to it

This.

For a watch that is almost 50 years old, you would expect to see a little wear.

Frogman4me · 24 May 2016, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by linesiders

whole thing is fake, well case, dial, hands, insert are fake. Movement looks standard eta with an attached tudor rotor, as opposed to a tudor eta from another mother.

Take a big pass on this one!

+1

23 May 2016, 10:21 AM	#2
linesiders 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,429	Whole thing is fake, well case, dial, hands, insert are fake. Movement looks standard ETA with an attached TUDOR rotor, as opposed to a Tudor ETA from another mother. Take a big pass on this one! __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

23 May 2016, 01:02 PM	#8
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,159	clearly fake __________________ watches many

23 May 2016, 10:30 AM	#3
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	a mm from missing the case on the ref #.... ps.... find a new friend.

23 May 2016, 10:51 AM	#4
pwojnar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hawaii Posts: 14	Thanks for the responses. I truly don't think he is being deceitful. He is a nice older gentleman I work with. I believe that he was duped when it was sold to him. I will tell him what I have found out so that he can ask for his money back from the seller since he has not had it that long. Thanks again.

23 May 2016, 12:07 PM	#6
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Many people have been taken by these fakes. My only point of cynicism is that the watch is 45 years old. It should never be so flawless. There is no aging to it

23 May 2016, 01:14 PM	#9
pwojnar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hawaii Posts: 14	I sent him a link to the thread to bring to the seller's attention. Thanks for the help everyone

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