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Old 21 November 2019, 03:45 AM   #31
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I.like the 5131G a lot and I.like white metals so yes that's a hot favourite. The bracelet is def an acquired taste and certainly pushed the price to a different level. Production of 5131G is long done so you can take a view of how many are in the market where as the P is an unknown. Certainly in the UK they are not taking new orders for the P as its believed to be discontinued. So i am.guessing it's an existing allocation to a dealer that's being filled. I believe with a bit of luck the 5131G can be had at between $95-105k and the P probably $145k. Guess u have to work.out if the bracelet is worth $40k....seems a lot


What is your estimation as to how many 5131G have been produced in total? In any case, I strongly prefer that one over the 5131p, as the view from the north pole does not attract me.
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Old 21 November 2019, 04:15 AM   #32
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This piece is in a league of its own........

Go for it......

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Old 21 November 2019, 04:32 AM   #33
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Why would it make a WT redundant.....are they thinking of also changing longitude?
Tectonic plate movement.

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Good grief...I think you need to read up about WT and GMT and SLS. If anything the cancellation.of DLS accurate and alleviate kne of its shortcomings in that it doesnt account for DLS!!!! If SLS is cancelled then everything is aligned to GMT
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Old 21 November 2019, 05:25 AM   #34
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Isn't this an application piece?

If so, I'd grab it if you can afford it. Plus, to me, it's stunning and I love full platinum (though you did note you'd put it on a strap).
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Old 21 November 2019, 09:36 AM   #35
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Thanks for all the feedback. I have a difficult decision to make in the next days.

I never filled out an application for this watch. I just expressed interest some years ago. But could be that the procedure varies by country.
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Old 21 November 2019, 11:10 AM   #36
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Thanks for all the feedback. I have a difficult decision to make in the next days.

I never filled out an application for this watch. I just expressed interest some years ago. But could be that the procedure varies by country.
i think it varies by TS' changing desire to sell more watches:::))))
this application piece stuff is definitely a great marketing tool. and it can be waived any time:::))))
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Old 21 November 2019, 11:47 AM   #37
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I.like the 5131G a lot and I.like white metals so yes that's a hot favourite. The bracelet is def an acquired taste and certainly pushed the price to a different level. Production of 5131G is long done so you can take a view of how many are in the market where as the P is an unknown. Certainly in the UK they are not taking new orders for the P as its believed to be discontinued. So i am.guessing it's an existing allocation to a dealer that's being filled. I believe with a bit of luck the 5131G can be had at between $95-105k and the P probably $145k. Guess u have to work.out if the bracelet is worth $40k....seems a lot
If this math is correct, which I have no reason to doubt it, 40k price difference which is for the thing you don’t even want (bracelet) if you are planning to put it on leather. I’d go G for sure, almost indistinguishable, IMO
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Old 21 November 2019, 12:09 PM   #38
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What is your estimation as to how many 5131G have been produced in total? In any case, I strongly prefer that one over the 5131p, as the view from the north pole does not attract me.
Nobody really knows and there are threads on TRF where this was debated ad nauseam. There was always an strong view that little elves in the swiss elves were only able to do 40 dials a year which I think is pure rubbish....however some tell.me as many as 1500 in the production run of each metal. Now we also need to remember that people dont like.paying trey prices. So maybe as the new 5231G comes to.market people that would have bought the 5131G now opt for this route...hence more supply and depressing the prices
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Old 21 November 2019, 09:05 PM   #39
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I get the watch for the equivalent of usd120k. Might be possible to buy the 5131g for 95k, so 25k difference for getting a new watch from AD, name on papers, hassle buying from grey and full platinum. For 25k more, new platinum watch probably still the better deal, although I do slightly prefer the map on the G vs the 1P.

One thing I will ask my AD if getting the 5131 1P will help or hurt my chances of getting all the other watches I am on the list for (5726 blue, 5168 green, 5212a, 5968a). That is not entirely clear to me.

Could very well be that the 5131 range will have a further reduction in price ones the 5231 is available in all metals. But I personally prefer the case of the 5131, so the price dynamic could also reverse if the collector community tends to favor the 5131 going forwards. Very few of us have seen the new 5231j in real life. I haven’t.


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Old 21 November 2019, 09:22 PM   #40
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I get the watch for the equivalent of usd120k. Might be possible to buy the 5131g for 95k, so 25k difference for getting a new watch from AD, name on papers, hassle buying from grey and full platinum. For 25k more, new platinum watch probably still the better deal, although I do slightly prefer the map on the G vs the 1P.

One thing I will ask my AD if getting the 5131 1P will help or hurt my chances of getting all the other watches I am on the list for (5726 blue, 5168 green, 5212a, 5968a). That is not entirely clear to me.

Could very well be that the 5131 range will have a further reduction in price ones the 5231 is available in all metals. But I personally prefer the case of the 5131, so the price dynamic could also reverse if the collector community tends to favor the 5131 going forwards. Very few of us have seen the new 5231j in real life. I haven’t.


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Old 21 November 2019, 09:23 PM   #41
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I get the watch for the equivalent of usd120k. Might be possible to buy the 5131g for 95k, so 25k difference for getting a new watch from AD, name on papers, hassle buying from grey and full platinum. For 25k more, new platinum watch probably still the better deal, although I do slightly prefer the map on the G vs the 1P.

One thing I will ask my AD if getting the 5131 1P will help or hurt my chances of getting all the other watches I am on the list for (5726 blue, 5168 green, 5212a, 5968a). That is not entirely clear to me.

Could very well be that the 5131 range will have a further reduction in price ones the 5231 is available in all metals. But I personally prefer the case of the 5131, so the price dynamic could also reverse if the collector community tends to favor the 5131 going forwards. Very few of us have seen the new 5231j in real life. I haven’t.


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I opted not to go for the 5231J as the metal generally does nothing for me and I find the colours a bit flat....I also find where they placed Patek Philippe to be annoying if you are buying a watch that is all about the dial. However saying that people will want it for the flip value. I also find makings WT smaller when its hard enough to read as it is a bit non sensical and in MY case the case doesnt sit on my wrist as well as the 5130....I would also emphasise the 5575 doesnt either...if retail is 120 then versus the 105....the P all day....
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Old 22 November 2019, 09:19 AM   #42
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Holy cow! This is some next level stuff. Absolutely love the watch. Boy. If I could afford this, I’d be eternally wearing it.


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Old 22 November 2019, 11:36 AM   #43
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As much as I would recommend and say yes, the fact you had to ask that question on a $150k watch tells me that the answer is no.

So I say no.
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Old 22 November 2019, 02:09 PM   #44
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As much as I would recommend and say yes, the fact you had to ask that question on a $150k watch tells me that the answer is no.

So I say no.
People contemplate about watch purchase decisions all the time for various reasons.

If you do a search here, many years ago, the famous Khalid was contemplating whether he should purchase the 5711/1P which he was offered from a Salon/AD. This was several years before the Anniversary version of the 5711/1P came out. In hindsight, it was a simple question. But even mega-collectors like Khalid sometimes contemplate purchase decisions and ask the audience on a $100k watch purchase, even though he owns numerous watches priced several times more expensive.

For the OP, I know there are many naysayers here. But ultimately go with your gut. Ask if the watch fits into your overall collection.

As a disclosure, I own the 5575G and the 5131R. However I always say that a platinum Patek is extra special!
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Old 22 November 2019, 07:15 PM   #45
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OP, Mark, would it be possible to see the watch first hand before deciding? I would go for it as I think price wise you will not be hurt. P will always command a higher price. Don't know if possible to remove the bracelet and put on a strap for this?
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Old 23 November 2019, 04:35 AM   #46
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OP, Mark, would it be possible to see the watch first hand before deciding? I would go for it as I think price wise you will not be hurt. P will always command a higher price. Don't know if possible to remove the bracelet and put on a strap for this?
Had a look at it and the bracelet is too shiny for me. Weight was ok and it wears very comfortably. It is possible to remove the bracelet, but the lugs are a bit longer than on the G/J/R versions, so a standard strap won’t look that nice. Needs a custom made strap but that is not a big issue. Will decide next week.
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Old 23 November 2019, 04:42 AM   #47
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People contemplate about watch purchase decisions all the time for various reasons.

If you do a search here, many years ago, the famous Khalid was contemplating whether he should purchase the 5711/1P which he was offered from a Salon/AD. This was several years before the Anniversary version of the 5711/1P came out. In hindsight, it was a simple question. But even mega-collectors like Khalid sometimes contemplate purchase decisions and ask the audience on a $100k watch purchase, even though he owns numerous watches priced several times more expensive.

For the OP, I know there are many naysayers here. But ultimately go with your gut. Ask if the watch fits into your overall collection.

As a disclosure, I own the 5575G and the 5131R. However I always say that a platinum Patek is extra special!
Good point. I guess for me it is that simple :)
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Old 23 November 2019, 05:51 AM   #48
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I would not buy it unless it is a real keeper for you and you will wear it. What the future market may be or not be on this watch is really unknown at this point.
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Old 26 November 2019, 10:16 PM   #49
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People contemplate about watch purchase decisions all the time for various reasons.

If you do a search here, many years ago, the famous Khalid was contemplating whether he should purchase the 5711/1P which he was offered from a Salon/AD. This was several years before the Anniversary version of the 5711/1P came out. In hindsight, it was a simple question. But even mega-collectors like Khalid sometimes contemplate purchase decisions and ask the audience on a $100k watch purchase, even though he owns numerous watches priced several times more expensive.

For the OP, I know there are many naysayers here. But ultimately go with your gut. Ask if the watch fits into your overall collection.

As a disclosure, I own the 5575G and the 5131R. However I always say that a platinum Patek is extra special!
Not to thread hijack but how about the 5575. Does the moon phase disc visibly float above the moon?
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Old 27 November 2019, 07:31 AM   #50
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Not to thread hijack but how about the 5575. Does the moon phase disc visibly float above the moon?
As for the 5575, I can't say that I looked at the moonphase part that carefully. It is a nicely done moonphase and looks better than all the other Patek watches with a moonphase.
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Old 27 November 2019, 07:34 AM   #51
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Just to let everyone know - I turned down the watch and hope the next person on the list will enjoy it.

5168 green should be my next incoming.
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Old 27 November 2019, 07:48 AM   #52
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good decision to let go of the 5131P. btw, i'd do the same with the 5168 green though:::)))
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Old 27 November 2019, 11:20 AM   #53
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good decision to let go of the 5131P. btw, i'd do the same with the 5168 green though:::)))
The designers at PP are racking their.minds over the 2020 colour rendition
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Old 27 November 2019, 09:15 PM   #54
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The designers at PP are racking their.minds over the 2020 colour rendition
pink is still an option.
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Old 27 November 2019, 09:16 PM   #55
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pink is still an option.
Too downmarket for Ninja kid
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Old 28 November 2019, 08:48 PM   #56
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good decision to let go of the 5131P. btw, i'd do the same with the 5168 green though:::)))

Thanks for the advice, but think I will go for the 5168green. I really like my 5065 with green strap. And as I have the 5168blue, I know how big and flat it wears.

There is something cool about a green patek.




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Old 20 February 2020, 10:12 PM   #57
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I vote with my feet.
The cloisonné is beautiful and the old fashion bracelet is surprisingly very comfortable on wrist.
Have been waiting for 2 years, thanks my AD for allocating it to me.

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Old 20 February 2020, 11:09 PM   #58
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Lovely peice but I have never liked the engraved bezel.
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Old 20 February 2020, 11:10 PM   #59
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I vote with my feet.
The cloisonné is beautiful and the old fashion bracelet is surprisingly very comfortable on wrist.
Have been waiting for 2 years, thanks my AD for allocating it to me.

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Congratulations! This watch is spectacular, and agreed, the bracelet is incredibly comfortable.
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Old 21 February 2020, 12:14 AM   #60
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Henry, that is a gorgeous timepiece. Big Congratulations! Great pic too, love the orchids.
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