Crossing the busy plaza, watch stolen of wrist...

[KarlS]

Arnaud remind me not to stand within 100m of you if I hear thunder

[lapince]

Originally Posted by Soly20

The problem is that i didn't realize it was stolen until I left the hotel. I thnk it was stolen from my hotel. i returned to the hotel around 6 weeks later but they toldme the security cam HD autodeletes every 30 days. There was no way to find out who took it.

I was in paris!!! In a 5 star hotel! WTF!

An no It was not insured

I am sure they knew what it was.

I filed a police report and informed Patek.

Patek contacted me 2 days ago and told me they got a request for an extract for my watch! They said they will be contacting the French police.

Once my watch got stolen, I got turned off watches altogether. I wanted to sell everything but I got over it now.

That's France for you my friend, my dying father got his laptop stolen from him in the oncology ward during the night before he was transferred to another place, and it was a 6 year old Toshiba, not surprised that staff from a 5 star would rob you. Anyways if they asked for an extract they are trying to sell it, so you should get it back, really hope so...

Originally Posted by KarlS

Arnaud remind me not to stand within 100m of you if I hear thunder

don't worry my friend, many adventures happen to me, always fine at the end, but nothing happens to my friends

[jfriedkin]

Living in Chicago, I NEVER wear my Day-Date Rolex walking in the city. Patek, NO PROBLEM!

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Soly20

The problem is that i didn't realize it was stolen until I left the hotel. I thnk it was stolen from my hotel. i returned to the hotel around 6 weeks later but they toldme the security cam HD autodeletes every 30 days. There was no way to find out who took it.

I was in paris!!! In a 5 star hotel! WTF!

An no It was not insured

I am sure they knew what it was.

I filed a police report and informed Patek.

Patek contacted me 2 days ago and told me they got a request for an extract for my watch! They said they will be contacting the French police.

Once my watch got stolen, I got turned off watches altogether. I wanted to sell everything but I got over it now.

Sorry to hear that, but hope there's some good news at the end of this tunnel.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by AK797

Sorry to hear that, but hope there's some good news at the end of this tunnel.

Hope so, just hope the french police will be active, they don't even try to find burglars or muggers anymore, not enough of them and too many crimes, but if PP gives them the adress of the guys asking for the extract they should do something, but if they are asking the watch has probably been sold to a pawn shop or something of the sort, not sure how the procedure works in that case

[Calatrava r]

If you getting mugged, I believe they will take the watch with everything else.

[Calatrava r]

I always wonder why anyone travels to foreign countries with anything of value.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

I always wonder why anyone travels to foreign countries with anything of value.

Can happen just as easily in South Carolina...just saying.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

I always wonder why anyone travels to foreign countries with anything of value.

Can happen anywhere, no need to travel for that... Of course some places are insanely dangerous, I would never tke any watch, even a cheap one to Rio for example

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

I always wonder why anyone travels to foreign countries with anything of value.

I agree. I just take my BLNR with me when I travel to USA

[tamiya]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

If you getting mugged, I believe they will take the watch with everything else.

Tourists help contribute to the local economy, right??

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I agree. I just take my BLNR with me when I travel to USA

the only place in the world I have ever been where i am nervous with expensive watches too and I'm from there.

Ive only been to 4 continents though so my list isn't all inclusive.

[lapince]

We say in France "a tourist which doesn't get scammed isn't a real tourist" lol

[tamiya]

Originally Posted by lapince

We say in France "a tourist which doesn't get scammed isn't a real tourist" lol

Mais, bien sur

Although these days it's often not just the locals doing the scam/stealing, it's the imports too

[pam66]

Originally Posted by KarlS

I agree. I just take my BLNR with me when I travel to USA

exactly!!!!!:::)))

[Murcielagoboy2]

Originally Posted by lapince

Lol, no place in the world is super safe.

Well I shouldn't say it here, but in Paris we have certain elements of certain populations, won't say which, some came 40-50 years ago, others just a few years, easy to figure out, some are specialized in mugging/moped crimes, others are in pick pocketing, our judicial system is so lax, that even foreigners come, from ex Yougoslavia for high profile jewelry/watch robberies. Our jails are like 2 star hotels and anyways they don't get long sentences, because we have a majority current in judicial, which considers the criminals as "victims of society", not joking, if you speak and read french google it you will find tons on that.

Of course I was attacked in Odessa 1 time in 14 years, at 4am, intoxicated, doesn't really count IMO, other than that no problem and don't know anyone who ever had, here if you don't F... with the wrong people, you are much safer than Paris.

In Paris often you have guys stabbed to death because they refused to give 1 cigarette...

And yes I agree that any asian city is much safer than any european capital.

Yep. Pretty easy to figure out.

Scary stuff...

[AK797]

Originally Posted by lapince

We say in France "a tourist which doesn't get scammed isn't a real tourist" lol

Damn, mate, you are putting me off wanting to go to Paris again. I'll have to get my beret and rude manners out of the closet so I fit right in.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by tamiya

Mais, bien sur

Although these days it's often not just the locals doing the scam/stealing, it's the imports too

Oh it's rarely the locals, at least not the old style locals who have been here for a few generations, and not even the imports from the 60's and 70's, but some of their kids, and some of the new imports...

Originally Posted by Murcielagoboy2

Yep. Pretty easy to figure out.

Scary stuff...

Yep, feel safer in Ukraine than in France, crazy right?

Originally Posted by AK797

Damn, mate, you are putting me off wanting to go to Paris again. I'll have to get my beret and rude manners out of the closet so I fit right in.

Oh no, that'll get you mugged even worse, get a tan, dress like a rapper with a Gucci hat, and Vuitton satchel, avoid watches and jewelry, and you won't have any problem, that is if you stay in the right neighborhoods, if you go to the suburbs, but why on hell would you wanna do that, it's as dangerous, they have turf wars for drug dealings, what you call no go zones, when someone from those zones calls the paramedics, they have to be escorted by police in full riot gear, and they are attacked every time, some even throw old washing mashines at them from roof tops, and your usual molotovs, sometimes shots, yeah France is becoming a great place to live...

[hugs]

I don't think US cities are any less prone to crime just in most other countries you are not allowed to defend yourself.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by hugs

I don't think US cities are any less prone to crime just in most other countries you are not allowed to defend yourself.

they are more so if talking about serious violent crime and not pickpocketing and petty theft. That is what i was saying. Im far more nervous when going "home" than i ever am in europe as far as fearing for my safety.

Downtown Houston at night vs London at night, there isn't any comparison.

[dmash]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

they are more so if talking about serious violent crime and not pickpocketing and petty theft. That is what i was saying. Im far more nervous when going "home" than i ever am in europe as far as fearing for my safety.

Downtown Houston at night vs London at night, there isn't any comparison.

100% agree. There's certain areas in USA where you don't want to even make eye contact. Sure I might get my wallet stolen in Germany (no more likely than the US) but I'm not walking down the road and having people trying to get into altercations on a weekly basis. Happened ALL the time in Florida, was absurd.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by dmash

100% agree. There's certain areas in USA where you don't want to even make eye contact. Sure I might get my wallet stolen in Germany (no more likely than the US) but I'm not walking down the road and having people trying to get into altercations on a weekly basis. Happened ALL the time in Florida, was absurd.

I think petty crime is higher in europe, but due to reasons of proximity to other people and a more pedestrian culture. I have not driven a car for 6 years for example and don't own one. So my proximity to people is higher in Europe so I'm more likely to get pick-pocketed based on how many more people i encounter on a daily basis. Violence concerns me much less in Europe though.

And yes, Houston is very similar to your Florida experience. I see people all the time looking to pick fights and I'm 6'5 and no pushover, so its very absurd.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

I think petty crime is higher in europe, but due to reasons of proximity to other people and a more pedestrian culture. I have not driven a car for 6 years for example and don't own one. So my proximity to people is higher in Europe so I'm more likely to get pick-pocketed based on how many more people i encounter on a daily basis. Violence concerns me much less in Europe though.

And yes, Houston is very similar to your Florida experience. I see people all the time looking to pick fights and I'm 6'5 and no pushover, so its very absurd.

Spend a lot of time in Houston...no issues. Again, have to know where to go and not go.

We have things we are licensed to carry in Texas that make it kinda silly for people to try violent things...it could be their last move.

End of the day crime happens in EVERY city.

Be careful and use common sense.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by texex91

Spend a lot of time in Houston...no issues. Again, have to know where to go and not go.

We have things we are licensed to carry in Texas that make it kinda silly for people to try violent things...it could be their last move.

End of the day crime happens in EVERY city.

Be careful and use common sense.

I like Houston a lot but downtown after everything closes isn't nice. I worked in the medical center for a long time too and showing up for work at 6am was pretty sketchy too from the previous night especially Hermann park.

Everyone has those "things" so i would not call it an advantage if you have one.

Residential areas are totally fine IMO

I peg you for more of a Dallas or Austin area guy? Love Austin, don't know anything about Dallas.

[Soly20]

I was in Paris for 2 days for a Business meeting then went on to another country. I am sure someone working for the hotel stole the watch from my room. No one mugged or pick pocketed me. I travel more than 50 times a year and to Paris more than 6 times a year. I am not some clueless tourist in Paris. I just didn't expect someone to go into my suite, in a 5 star hotel and steal my freakin' watch.

[texex91]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

I like Houston a lot but downtown after everything closes isn't nice. I worked in the medical center for a long time too and showing up for work at 6am was pretty sketchy too from the previous night especially Hermann park.

Everyone has those "things" so i would not call it an advantage if you have one.

Residential areas are totally fine IMO

I peg you for more of a Dallas or Austin area guy? Love Austin, don't know anything about Dallas.

Hermann Park is one of the 'not places to go' I discussed. And I'd rather have one of those 'things' than not have one.

And you would peg me right.

Originally Posted by Soly20

I was in Paris for 2 days for a Business meeting then went on to another country. I am sure someone working for the hotel stole the watch from my room. No one mugged or pick pocketed me. I travel more than 50 times a year and to Paris more than 6 times a year. I am not some clueless tourist in Paris. I just didn't expect someone to go into my suite, in a 5 star hotel and steal my freakin' watch.

I'm sorry to hear this Soly

[lapince]

Damn, I knew I forgot something in my list, in the Paris Bataclan attack, the half sister of my cousins died, sweet girl, she was 24. And I have a friend who knew 2 girls who died there as well, but I didn't know them personally...

This is an article about my cousin by relation, she was the half sister of my cousins, but no direct relation to me, must have seen her a few times, who got shot:

https://www.google.com.ua/amp/m.20mi.../amp/a/1730919

[mickyd329]

[QUOTE=texex91;7834294]

We have things we are licensed to carry in Texas that make it kinda silly for people to try violent things...it could be their last move.


Never leave home without it! Always need to have one of those things handy IMO.

[lapince]

[QUOTE=mickyd329;7852372]

Originally Posted by texex91

We have things we are licensed to carry in Texas that make it kinda silly for people to try violent things...it could be their last move.


Never leave home without it! Always need to have one of those things handy IMO.

Yep but in Europe forget it, no way!!!!'