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Old 6 January 2006, 03:14 PM   #1
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This is driving me NUTS!!

Jesus H.!!!!

All my life I've worn watches with MOVING second hands....so now this Chronograph (my very first one) with the STATIONARY second hand is driving me insane.

I want it to move, I'm dying for it to move, I'm yearning for it to move....but I've been strongly advised by an expert on the subject to leave it turned off, unless required!! Click on link below and you'll know what I'm talking about!!

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The problem is that the stationary second hand is often being confused and misread by me as the minute hand and, therefore, the time gets read all wrong. What the hell should I do? Just leave the damn thing running and not worry about a thing as long as the two year warranty is on?

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Old 6 January 2006, 04:00 PM   #2
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JJ, I feel for you. I have the solution....
Just put the watch back in the box in came in, and please ship it to me.....


That's part of the reason I did not go for the GMT II. That red hand would have driven me nuts.
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Old 6 January 2006, 04:08 PM   #3
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JJ, I feel for you. I have the solution....
Just put the watch back in the box in came in, and please ship it to me.....


That's part of the reason I did not go for the GMT II. That red hand would have driven me nuts.
No it doesn't. The red hand is sheer contrast to the remaining three hands and can NEVER get confused with the reading of time. Trust me....I've owned all three bezel coloured GMTs as well as both Exp-IIs....white dial and black. NEVER had a problem with reading of time.

This stationary hand on the chonorgraph is driving me insane. I WANT the bloody thing to MOVE, MOVE, MOVE...
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Old 6 January 2006, 04:22 PM   #4
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You just talked me into getting another watch.
GMT is now in my sights.
On my Air King, the second hand often confused me for the minute hand. It's movement just catches the light & stands out over the minute hand.
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Old 6 January 2006, 06:48 PM   #5
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Reminds me of a joke JJ.

A guy walks into the doctors with a steering wheel down his shorts. The doctor asks whats wrong and he replies. "It's driving me nuts."

BTW

Flip it and buy a Daytona.
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Old 6 January 2006, 08:19 PM   #6
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Seriously now JJ. If youwant the second hand to move, then let it go. The watch is under warranty for two years and who knows if you'll have it that long anyway? So let it fly. Just my .02
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Old 6 January 2006, 08:20 PM   #7
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Reminds me of a joke JJ.

A guy walks into the doctors with a steering wheel down his shorts. The doctor asks whats wrong and he replies. "It's driving me nuts."



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Old 6 January 2006, 08:54 PM   #8
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Is that why it's called a CROSS wind?

Hey JJ

So sorry to hear of your unhappiness with your Cross Wind. I can fully understand why you would be ANGRY

Those who have commented on the GMT II will notice that if they stay awake long enough they will see the red hand does actually move!

If you really like the Brietlings so much go for a Colt.

Really though, once you have Rolex there is no other choice mate.
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Old 6 January 2006, 10:07 PM   #9
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JJ whats posted there is that mans opinion and would respect that.But Omega quote to saying no harm or any noticeable wear, or very little loss of power reserve 2% in the auto movements if chrono is running constant. But you have the sub seconds constant moving,with the modern day synthetic oils IMO no harm would come to the movement.But like yours is a new watch that needs running in,but ETA quote that none of there movements require any breaking in period.Your watch is guaranteed for two years so try it,but WTF you want it running for beats me.


The most important thing for any chrono movement,is to stop it,then reset it,never leave it in the stopped position. JJ the second hand is a lot thinner and got a big B on the other end, how anyone could mistake it for the hour or minute hand beats me.
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Old 6 January 2006, 11:23 PM   #10
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Hmm - would anybody like to revise their vote of 6-12 months?
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Old 6 January 2006, 11:28 PM   #11
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I agree with Padi - I've had two chronos and there's no way I would want the chrono hand to move other than when I wish to time something. You'll get used to it - don't forget this is your first chronograph and the dial is much busier because of the complication.
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Old 6 January 2006, 11:32 PM   #12
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I agree with Padi - I've had two chronos and there's no way I would want the chrono hand to move other than when I wish to time something. You'll get used to it - don't forget this is your first chronograph and the dial is much busier because of the complication.
There's no bigger complication than JJ.
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Old 6 January 2006, 11:36 PM   #13
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Hmm - would anybody like to revise their vote of 6-12 months?
Remember, I was the first to say JJ will sell the Breitling and the ExpII to acquire the TT Daytona... and I was also first to vote JJ will part with the Crosswind in 1-3 months.

I figured this would drive you nuttier (I would say 'nuts' but you're already there mate) but this has happened faster than even I thought.

I'll go down to the FOR SALE area and reserve a spot for the Breitling.
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Old 6 January 2006, 11:47 PM   #14
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My question is this: why on earth would JJ want a Daytona (chronograph) if he don't like (stationary hand on the chronograph is driving me insane.) how a Chronograph works?
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My question is this: why on earth would JJ want a Daytona (chronograph) if he don't like (stationary hand on the chronograph is driving me insane.) how a Chronograph works?
Earl, Earl, Earl... you've known JJ long enough to know conventional logic doesn't apply to his watch acquisitions or flips.
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Remember, I was the first to say JJ will sell the Breitling and the ExpII to acquire the TT Daytona... and I was also first to vote JJ will part with the Crosswind in 1-3 months.

I figured this would drive you nuttier (I would say 'nuts' but you're already there mate) but this has happened faster than even I thought.

I'll go down to the FOR SALE area and reserve a spot for the Breitling.
Johhny, I read your Reserved thread before I got to this one. I didn't notice you had posted it in the For Sale board. Now I understand.

I agree with you. End of January at the latest it will be history, consigned to the faded recollection bins that currently contain several GMTs, a TT Blue Sub, an ugly PO, and a few others that are gone but forgotten.
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Old 6 January 2006, 11:56 PM   #17
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You just talked me into getting another watch.
GMT is now in my sights.
On my Air King, the second hand often confused me for the minute hand. It's movement just catches the light & stands out over the minute hand.
JJ's right, LM. You would never confuse the red 24 hour hand on a GMT with either the minute hand or the second hand. Totally different sizes and designs.

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Old 7 January 2006, 12:04 AM   #18
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I agree... I have yet to mis-read my fourth hand.

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JJ it's kind'a like having a 5spd car for the first time you know you should use the clutch instead of grinding gears,but ur not used to it. So either start using the clutch or trade it in! (guys i shouldve voted 1-3 months instead of 3-6) :
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JJ it's kind'a like having a 5spd car for the first time you know you should use the clutch instead of grinding gears,but ur not used to it. So either start using the clutch or trade it in! (guys i shouldve voted 1-3 months instead of 3-6) :
I know what you mean, Ralph. I think I voted 6-12 months. What a mistake that was!!
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How JJ could mistake the chrono second hand,has defeated me its a lot thinner, and got a big B, and a bloody anchor on one end. How anyone could mistake it for the hour or minute hand beats me.
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How JJ could mistake the chrono second hand,has defeated me its a lot thinner, and got a big B, and a bloody anchor on one end. How anyone could mistake it for the hour or minute hand beats me.
It's JJ, Peter!! Only he could be upset that the chrono second hand doesn't move.
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It's JJ, Peter!! Only he could be upset that the chrono second hand doesn't move.
Agree Ed but the chrono second hand will move,when you use the Chrono function,thats what all mechanical bloody chronographs are designed to do.
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Agree Ed but the chrono second hand will move,when you use the Chrono function,thats what all mechanical bloody chronographs are designed to do.
I've said it before and I'll say it again... conventional logic doesn't apply to bald flightless birds.
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Agree Ed but the chrono second hand will move,when you use the Chrono function,thats what all mechanical bloody chronographs are designed to do.
You know that and I know that. However, it seems that poor JJ had no concept of how a chrono operates when he made his impulse buy. He's so shell shocked by this that he can't come to grips with it.

That's why it's a good thing John reserved a space on the For Sale board for the Crosswind. Unless he can reconcile himself to having a chrono second hand that rests at 12:00, that baby will be history within a month.
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JJ should release the chrono hand now,and stop it when he sells it!!!! That way within the next week he could get some use out of that thing!! And maybe get it out of his system!
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Well, I know who told JJ it would be bad for the movement, and while I tend to agree with the guy to a degree, I don't think running a chrono all the time is a bad thing. It just creates premature wear.

Since JJ rarely keeps a watch more than a year on average, it wouldn't affect him at all, since once he flips it, it'll be about 4-5 years before the then owner gets stuck with the service bill.

I also fail to understand how this 'problem' wasn't discovered before the plastic was put down.
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Well, I know who told JJ it would be bad for the movement, and while I tend to agree with the guy to a degree, I don't think running a chrono all the time is a bad thing. It just creates premature wear.
Well John a direct quote from Omega,there is know evidence of increase
wear, or significant power-loss in all mechanical movements. A small loss of power reserve 2% on auto,but as much as 10% - 15% power-loss reserve on manual,when using the chrono function permanent.
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Extra Second Hand??

JJ,
Why don't you just start timing how long you own this watch.
Then, technically, the Chrono is moving for a reason......

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Why don't you just start timing how long you own this watch.
Then, technically, the Chrono is moving for a reason......

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