Something is brewing 116710LN

[edyu]

I saw the LN yesterday at an AD.

[enjoythemusic]

LNs are everywhere online. Get 'em cheap, don't pay more because they are common.

[HogwldFLTR]

RONR sounds like a real winner to me; I'd love to see it. Wonder what it would do to the BLNRs value???

[amh]

Originally Posted by lamnyc

I hope they retire the green arrow LN. Prices will go up then.

Blasphemy!

[abbarolex]

Prices are been up on the GMT's as well in the last few month's in the pre owned market. I just called my local AD and they have one only for sale. THe girl that works in the local AD told me that christmas they normally have 10 to 15 GMT Rolex in stock but this past christmas they had only 4 in stock.

[lucevan le stelle]

Wondering whether the degree of non-enthusiast demand may be impacting LN availability. Only Rolex knows.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by melrob1

That has been my thought also. They just probably ran out of GMT’s before Subs. I think the fact that they had a better 2017 then expected left them short on inventory only because they weren’t producing them with the old movement anymore not because they under evaluated demand. A company like Rolex has plenty of stock and would never be out because of demand like some suggest. Out because they have stopped production on the current mode and not lasting to get them to Basel makes much more sense. I think the new versions are being produced and are waiting for release and Basel and will hit the market fast and with plenty of inventory on models like gmt ln and subs. Also think that is why they waited on Coke or Pepsi. I see one of those being this years Dayyona C

Not us suggesting that as we like you thought Rolex were proffesionals in allocation and distribution control, but they as good as admitted they have been undone by over-demand last year in the US, and in the UK the year before as well. Very poor.

[jezza17]

Originally Posted by amh

- New movement
- Thinner lugs
- Add SS Coke

This

[melrob1]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

LNs are everywhere online. Get 'em cheap, don't pay more because they are common.

On Watchrecon there are 8 listed and inly one of them BNIB. Before the short there were pages of NIB and trusted sellers always had a BNIB in stock. All my AD’s always had ample stock and haven’t had oen for month. One of them being a big national chain

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by amh

I don't see the dropping BLNR. We already know they can't do a red/blue combo but black/blue works very well. Black/red likely is possible as well.

My prediction:
- New movement across GMT line
- Smaller lugs to mimic the SD43
- Keep 40mm case
- Offer LN, BLNR and new Coke

BLRO in WG gets killed, never to be brought back again. It was a Mistake. Perhaps in 10 years they'll figure out how to do blue/red in ceramic and then they'll bring it back in SS - the way it's meant to be.

Are you predicting all these changes at one time, or over the course of a few years? Thinner lugs would be a redesign, and Rolex typically debuts new designs in PM only, with SS to follow in later years.

[melrob1]

Originally Posted by AK797

Not us suggesting that as we like you thought Rolex were proffesionals in allocation and distribution control, but they as good as admitted they have been undone by over-demand last year in the US, and in the UK the year before as well. Very poor.

I think them “admitting “ this is just not true. IMO there way of getting rid of the old stuff to make room for what’s coming. Manufactures cam adjust quick for short supply. I’m a retailer and have great knowledge on how manufactures do things and react. This has beem truly unique even for Rolex. Who knows we all are guessing and I think Rolex thought they would have enough to get them to basel but didn’t

[SeaAndSky]

All of you who think the BLNR is going away are nuts. It’s not going anywhere. The colors are not only beautiful but also the only bezel colors they’ve ever done that actually represent a day and the intent of the bezel in the first place. They’re flying out the door nearly as soon as they land. Rolex is a business. It exists to make money not to shoot itself in the foot and lay off employees.

[nmb]

I can't see the LN going anywhere,the black bezel GMT was always available in the preceramic range.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

All of you who think the BLNR is going away are nuts. It’s not going anywhere. The colors are not only beautiful but also the only bezel colors they’ve ever done that actually represent a day and the intent of the bezel in the first place. They’re flying out the door nearly as soon as they land. Rolex is a business. It exists to make money not to shoot itself in the foot and lay off employees.

Would you a consider a redesigned case with a blue-and-black bezel a "discontinuation" of the BLNR? Because eventually there will be a redesign - whether this year or in ten years - and that redesign will cause the existing designs to be discontinued. I could easily see them introducing a new design in stainless with the same bezel as the the current BLNR, but that would still technically mean the discontinuation of the 116710BLNR. The comments in this thread appear to be talking about this scenario, not just dropping the BLNR without issuing a replacement.

[SeaAndSky]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Would you a consider a redesigned case with a blue-and-black bezel a "discontinuation" of the BLNR? Because eventually there will be a redesign - whether this year or in ten years - and that redesign will cause the existing designs to be discontinued. I could easily see them introducing a new design in stainless with the same bezel as the the current BLNR, but that would still technically mean the discontinuation of the 116710BLNR. The comments in this thread appear to be talking about this scenario, not just dropping the BLNR without issuing a replacement.

Nope. I would consider such a watch to remain a BLNR GMT. I hope they don’t though. Movement improvements are great but I’d like to see the current case remain the same. I prefer it to the others.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

Nope. I would consider such a watch to remain a BLNR GMT.

Based on that, I agree - I don't see Rolex discontinuing a BLNR offering. As for a redesign, it's tricky. Every model so far to feature a 32xx movement has been a redesign. Putting the new movement into an existing model hasn't happened yet. I can't foresee Rolex not upgrading the movements in the sports lines in the next few years. If that's correct, then keeping the existing models for the foreseeable future would mean Rolex will put the new movements in them. Anything is possible, but based on what Rolex has done so far, I see it as more likely Rolex will tweak the designs of both the GMT and the Sub when they upgrade their movements. It will be an interesting next few years.

[Raza_actual]

Originally Posted by lamnyc

I hope they retire the green arrow LN. Prices will go up then.

Did they ever do a six digit reference GMT with the black dial and without the green hand? I really like the GMT, but the older models are going for crazy money, the BLNR is nice, but I don't like it enough to pay that much for it, and the LN's green hand bothers me (I really dislike the color green outside of nature). I mean, if I could find a good condition BLNR for like 6, I'd probably go for it, but that doesn't seem likely.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Raza_actual

Did they ever do a six digit reference GMT with the black dial and without the green hand?

I think you mean black dial/black bezel, right? Both the BLRO and BLNR have black dials, without green hands. To my knowledge, all black dial/black bezel six-digit GMTs have had the green 24-hour hand. The YG green-dial has a gold 24-hour hand, and of course the BLRO has red, and the BLNR blue.

[supele]

I have just got LN recently while still on the waiting list for BLNR and SubDate C which according to the AD would take more than 6 months to wait.

[G.D.BeanCounter]

Stopped by an AD today. One LN in the case + one in the window. Aside from the DSSD, they only model they have multiple pieces unsold or accounted for.

[Raza_actual]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I think you mean black dial/black bezel, right? Both the BLRO and BLNR have black dials, without green hands. To my knowledge, all black dial/black bezel six-digit GMTs have had the green 24-hour hand. The YG green-dial has a gold 24-hour hand, and of course the BLRO has red, and the BLNR blue.

Yes, black dial/black bezel.

Shame. I really don't like green. I don't own a shred of green clothing. I don't even go out on St. Patrick's Day anymore (I've felt too old for that when I was still young enough to be doing it, to be fair).

[DoctorA]

Originally Posted by maxiboy60

How long are the lists for the LN? If a SS Coke did come out would the people on the LN lists get first dibs?

Forget about Ss Daytona and skyD if a ss Pepsi come out. All lists will shift to it!!

[jrs146]

There are so many LN’s out there that I think this would be one model that if discontinued would suffer in resale. As for the BLNR I see the opposite happening if it were to be cut.


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[melrob1]

Seems I was right about something brewing. Bind blowing that it is gone altogether

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by melrob1

Seems I was right about something brewing. Bind blowing that it is gone altogether

you called it brotherrrrrr

[101031-28]

Originally Posted by melrob1

Seems I was right about something brewing. Bind blowing that it is gone altogether

Indeed, well done!

[Mgsm]

you saw it coming....well spot

[Big J]

It’s a big surprise that it is discontinued. I’m glad I was able to get a LN last summer.

[JacksonStone]

I'm not surprised the existing SS LN got discontinued. I am surprised it wasn't replaced by a model with an upgraded movement and some aesthetic changes - like switching green accents out for red. I'm even more surprised Rolex did away with all solid-color bezel options altogether, especially in light of there now being three Pepsi options. None of this makes any sense to me. (The BLNR is a fine release, and pairs nicely with the SS Pepsi, but I think Rolex would serve its customers better if they were to offer a choice of Jubilee or Oyster for each, just as they do with the DJ.)

It wouldn't surprise me if the black-bezel GMT made a return at some point, but I'm done trying to predict what Rolex does. My instincts are not in tune with whatever market/aesthetic strategy the brand is following right now.

[Reddy_Kilowatt]

Nice job OP. You called it over a year early. Now go post about your prediction of the end of the Daytona's life and you can claim victory in a few more years.