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ggencer · 14 April 2018, 02:24 AM

If you were in a position to get one of those grande complications. Which one you would pick ? Why ?

thomaspp · 14 April 2018, 02:27 AM

Would be inclined to 5304r. If you want a classic looking MR perpetual get the "real thing" in a 3974 which to me is one of the most beautiful ever made. Luck you!

nyc2la · 14 April 2018, 02:37 AM

Two watches that in theory are grails / dream watches. And although I’m not too familiar with these specific pieces, for that kind of money, they better be perfect.

The 5374p is almost perfect, IMHO. I will nitpick because it’s too much money not to. ****** Why does a watch of this caliber have the squashed numerals in the date wheel (the 5 and 27 & 29)? 🧐

Otherwise, it’s absolutely beautiful.

As for the 5304r, it’s a little too ornate for me and tough to read the PC complication.

If I were offered one of the two, the 5374p.

The B · 14 April 2018, 04:48 AM

Ah! Thank you - another great thread for a Friday.

Sound:
From experience I can share that the chime sound of the gold is significantly better to me that the platinum case.

Usefulness / Dial:
5304r is challenging to read under the best conditions, but it the most stunning to see as the openwork - and by far is most loved by people in my life that are not watch people.
5374p: Enamel dial with breguet is so beautiful and actually legible as a watch, especially with the lume hands.

Both have water resistance of zero.

Retention: I guess the 5374p wins here as I know the skeletons are generally not for everyone and I got my 5304r double sealed at a discount from retail price (not through retail channel).

Both are works of art, but to me the 5304r is really art on the wrist. To answer this better I would love to know what else you have in your collection. Disclosure: I get my enamel dial/breguet "fix" in another piece.

toucan · 14 April 2018, 05:48 AM

I agree with Steve the smushed numbers on the date wheel should not be like that at this price point. Same with the 5204. Blah!

conkers · 14 April 2018, 10:52 AM

Neither for me. If it has to be current model I would hold off for a 5207 for admittedly a bit more money. If older models are acceptable I actually think the 5213 is the best looking super Patek but just wish the size was bigger.

AK797 · 14 April 2018, 11:09 AM

I prefer the P altho as said the dial is a little claustrophobic. I don't like the Patek text at the bottom of a dial and esp not when it is so spaced out as if for a child. However the chime's resonance would be of paramount importance here.

View Poll Results: 5304r or 5374p
5304r	4	33.33%
5374p	8	66.67%
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14 April 2018, 02:27 AM	#2
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	Would be inclined to 5304r. If you want a classic looking MR perpetual get the "real thing" in a 3974 which to me is one of the most beautiful ever made. Luck you! __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

14 April 2018, 02:37 AM	#3
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,209	Two watches that in theory are grails / dream watches. And although I’m not too familiar with these specific pieces, for that kind of money, they better be perfect. The 5374p is almost perfect, IMHO. I will nitpick because it’s too much money not to. ****** Why does a watch of this caliber have the squashed numerals in the date wheel (the 5 and 27 & 29)? 🧐 Otherwise, it’s absolutely beautiful. As for the 5304r, it’s a little too ornate for me and tough to read the PC complication. If I were offered one of the two, the 5374p. __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

14 April 2018, 10:52 AM	#6
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 6,046	Neither for me. If it has to be current model I would hold off for a 5207 for admittedly a bit more money. If older models are acceptable I actually think the 5213 is the best looking super Patek but just wish the size was bigger. __________________ IG: @conkers1971 Revolution Video Feature: https://www.revolution.watch/collect...f-conkers1971/

14 April 2018, 04:48 AM	#4
The B "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: USA Posts: 221	Ah! Thank you - another great thread for a Friday. Sound: From experience I can share that the chime sound of the gold is significantly better to me that the platinum case. Usefulness / Dial: 5304r is challenging to read under the best conditions, but it the most stunning to see as the openwork - and by far is most loved by people in my life that are not watch people. 5374p: Enamel dial with breguet is so beautiful and actually legible as a watch, especially with the lume hands. Both have water resistance of zero. Retention: I guess the 5374p wins here as I know the skeletons are generally not for everyone and I got my 5304r double sealed at a discount from retail price (not through retail channel). Both are works of art, but to me the 5304r is really art on the wrist. To answer this better I would love to know what else you have in your collection. Disclosure: I get my enamel dial/breguet "fix" in another piece.

14 April 2018, 05:48 AM	#5
toucan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NYC Watch: 5970 Posts: 1,980	I agree with Steve the smushed numbers on the date wheel should not be like that at this price point. Same with the 5204. Blah!

14 April 2018, 11:09 AM	#7
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,319	I prefer the P altho as said the dial is a little claustrophobic. I don't like the Patek text at the bottom of a dial and esp not when it is so spaced out as if for a child. However the chime's resonance would be of paramount importance here.

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