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Old 6 September 2021, 05:42 AM   #31
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Haldimann is indeed great but unfortunately they come at a price
I was surprised at the value initially. The H11 was around $31k in steel a couple of years ago, which is a steal imho for a single watchmaker building you a watch without the use of CNC. However, seems he raised his prices and now his cheapest watch is $55k….which is a harder pill to swallow given what else that price range can yield.
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Old 6 September 2021, 05:46 AM   #32
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Old 22 September 2021, 04:06 PM   #33
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Filipe Pikullik lately - this is only ~$1000. Pretty cool.

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Old 22 September 2021, 11:18 PM   #34
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Filipe Pikullik lately - this is only ~$1000. Pretty cool.

There's a live shot on watchprosite that gives a less flattering, maybe more real look at it. It's good for the price for sure.
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Old 22 September 2021, 11:39 PM   #35
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Krayon-anywhere and everywhere. A talented youny watchmaker.
watch out his debut- only watch- such an artistic watch I have not seen for a long time.
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Old 22 September 2021, 11:52 PM   #36
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If you are not looking at Lang & Heyne, you are missing out

L & H is on par with anything super high end but for a fraction of the price.
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Old 23 September 2021, 04:06 AM   #37
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There's a live shot on watchprosite that gives a less flattering, maybe more real look at it. It's good for the price for sure.
Live shot?
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Old 23 September 2021, 06:23 AM   #38
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I love that watches are in right now and there is so much going on with independents.
Too bad though that many come along with a hefty price tag.
Can you imagine if we were all just chasing the "usual" brands, puke
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Old 23 September 2021, 06:31 AM   #39
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Just wondering ...

For me a lot changed when talking about independents. I mean ... Journe is still my favorite brand and that will probably not change. But When buying a Journe today you don't get a piece he made. He works with dozens of watchmakers.
And so do Voutilainen and almost all the others. Even RW Smith has quite some watchmakers working for him.

All great watches but isn't it even better when the watch you get is the watch made by the man who's name is on the dial ?

This is why I love Florent Lecomte, Pascal Coyon, Chritian Lass.


So I would like to see more go these in this thread instead of the Parmiginani, Journe, Voutilainen, Grossman, Czapek, Greubel, Forsey ...
They are independent because the do not belong to a big group ... but they are so different from these individuals.

Maybe we need another name than 'independent'

How do the call the ultra small brands where the watchmaker himself makes YOUR watch.
great point. I took my first leaps away from the usual suspects with my GS, ALS, and Moser. I have yet to venture further out but I am very interested
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Old 23 September 2021, 01:24 PM   #40
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Filipe Pikullik lately - this is only ~$1000. Pretty cool.
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Live shot?
By a living human!
Yeah, the movement looks much less well finished.
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Old 23 September 2021, 01:27 PM   #41
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Anyone know what Pascal Coyon is charging for a new watch nowadays?
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Old 23 September 2021, 09:58 PM   #42
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Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum. Of course, these prices are revised if specific requests are made like an enamel dial. When I discovered the watches and the 19 calibre, I had no doubt about the relevance of this price level. The watches are perfectly crafted and animated by an exceptional calibre that I consider one of the most beautiful hand-wound movements available today.
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Old 23 September 2021, 10:00 PM   #43
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Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum. Of course, these prices are revised if specific requests are made like an enamel dial. When I discovered the watches and the 19 calibre, I had no doubt about the relevance of this price level. The watches are perfectly crafted and animated by an exceptional calibre that I consider one of the most beautiful hand-wound movements available today.
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Old 23 September 2021, 10:17 PM   #44
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Caliber 1900 , just went crazy on chrono 24 : 33 403 €
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Old 23 September 2021, 11:58 PM   #45
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Caliber 1900 , just went crazy on chrono 24 : 33 403 €
Makes zero sense given his new watch is less than that and objectively better.
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Old 24 September 2021, 01:33 AM   #46
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Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum today.
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Old 26 September 2021, 02:39 PM   #47
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Old 5 November 2021, 12:22 AM   #48
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Old 5 November 2021, 12:54 AM   #49
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Interested in seeing the next MAD creation from Max Busser next year. Along that line are there any other indie watchmakers that are re-tooling how time can be displayed? MB&F, Urwerk are of course the high-end spectrum, anything more mid tier?
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Old 5 November 2021, 02:35 AM   #50
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Old 17 December 2021, 06:25 PM   #51
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Old 20 February 2022, 05:26 AM   #52
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I was surprised at the value initially. The H11 was around $31k in steel a couple of years ago, which is a steal imho for a single watchmaker building you a watch without the use of CNC. However, seems he raised his prices and now his cheapest watch is $55k….which is a harder pill to swallow given what else that price range can yield.

Does anybody have ownership experience with a Haldimann? Really like the new H12 steel.
How to buy them? Just drop him an email?


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This is turning out to be an expensive thread for me.

I've been in touch with Pascal Coyon and he has been very nice to work with.
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Old 21 February 2022, 04:36 AM   #55
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Does anybody have ownership experience with a Haldimann? Really like the new H12 steel.
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I'm strongly considering a h12 myself. I'll say this, not very responsive via email.
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Old 21 February 2022, 08:49 AM   #56
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I've always been drawn to Armin Strom. They seem to be one of the few other manufactures other than FPJ to execute the resonance complication. That it is open worked adds something to the watch if that's up your alley.
Yes, there are actually three. Haldimann for the flying resonance.

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Old 21 February 2022, 07:08 PM   #57
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Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum. Of course, these prices are revised if specific requests are made like an enamel dial. When I discovered the watches and the 19 calibre, I had no doubt about the relevance of this price level. The watches are perfectly crafted and animated by an exceptional calibre that I consider one of the most beautiful hand-wound movements available today.
That's pretty reasonable considering the amount of work put in. His watches are sensational.
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Old 21 February 2022, 07:12 PM   #58
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I've been keeping an eye on Atelier de Chronométre in Barcelona. Seem to be really stretching themselves constantly, and producing absolutely gorgeous and unusual watches.

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You have to subscribe to his aesthetics, which I don’t really do, but if so, there’s no arguing with the quality Phillipe Narbel will give you. If you want hand made, that’s hand made. And he’s a lovely person too, from what little interaction I’ve had with him.
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Old 21 February 2022, 10:15 PM   #60
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I'm strongly considering a h12 myself. I'll say this, not very responsive via email.
same as Roger Smith. I know the book is closed, but I emailed him anyway, because I decided to spread out from Kari (2 coming in) But no reply!

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