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Old 18 August 2019, 05:19 AM   #1
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Eye Of The Tiger

I wish I could embed a short video, but these pics may allow some small idea of how strongly the color and brightness moves and “flops” at different angles.

For factory-Rolex stone dials, I know of 1) the infinite variety of DJs, DDs, women’s models and Cellinis, 2) what seems to be a very few onyx dial subs, and 3) the asymmetric and ‘regular’ tiger eye King Midas ones. (Some root beer GMTs mention “tiger eye dial,” but from the images I’ve seen, I think those are not stone, but coppery color sunburst dials - lmk if that’s wrong?)

Are there any other references with factory stone dials?

If you like the stone dials, run-don’t-walk to check out this amazing assortment in the TRF Reference Library, most of which I’ve never even seen IRL - https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=613448
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Old 18 August 2019, 05:50 AM   #2
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cant answer your question but love what you have there. Something so 70's Bond baddy that just works.
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Old 18 August 2019, 06:13 AM   #3
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Why does the dial have T Swiss T written on it when I don’t see any lume on it or the hands?
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Old 18 August 2019, 07:23 AM   #4
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Why does the dial have T Swiss T written on it when I don’t see any lume on it or the hands?
I noticed the same thing!

I don’t think any of these had lume (or indices) on the dial. I’ve seen them both with and without lume hands. Long ago, someone told me that many of these were customer orders, not carried “on spec” by retailers, and that while the hands could be ordered either way, all the dials were printed the same. (I’ve noticed this same thing on no-index onyx dials.)

It could be that the hands were replaced at some point since 1993, my seller was not the original owner. However, it seems reasonably likely that it was made this way, as standard tritium DD hands have never been difficult to get.
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Old 18 August 2019, 07:25 AM   #5
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Old 18 August 2019, 07:46 AM   #6
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I noticed the same thing!

I don’t think any of these had lume (or indices) on the dial. I’ve seen them both with and without lume hands. Long ago, someone told me that many of these were customer orders, not carried “on spec” by retailers, and that while the hands could be ordered either way, all the dials were printed the same. (I’ve noticed this same thing on no-index onyx dials.)

It could be that the hands were replaced at some point since 1993, my seller was not the original owner. However, it seems reasonably likely that it was made this way, as standard tritium DD hands have never been difficult to get.
I think that makes sense, it either had tritium hands that were replaced and or the dial was made to accommodate either lumed or non lumed hands.

I think that SearChart/Bas would know.

The dial is superb in any case, nice score
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Old 19 August 2019, 03:41 AM   #7
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I think that makes sense, it either had tritium hands that were replaced and or the dial was made to accommodate either lumed or non lumed hands.

I think that SearChart/Bas would know.
Yes, likely either Bas / SearChart or crowncollection would know. Paging the pros?
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Old 19 August 2019, 05:51 AM   #8
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I've seen this on other dials without like as well. I think they were just too lazy to make a seperate print for the few dials that don't have lume.
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Old 28 August 2019, 06:26 PM   #9
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Here's another dial with T Swiss made T, yet it doesn't have any lume.
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Old 28 August 2019, 11:18 PM   #10
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Here's another dial with T Swiss made T, yet it doesn't have any lume.


I agree with your earlier post, too.

When the regulations came into being, Rolex likely took the safe route. They likely told all the dial makers to make printing masks with T on it because the handstack may have lume.


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I agree with your earlier post, too.

When the regulations came into being, Rolex likely took the safe route. They likely told all the dial makers to make printing masks with T on it because the handstack may have lume.


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Great point !
I think it looks cool anyway, makes it somewhat uniform.
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Old 29 August 2019, 03:17 AM   #12
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There are a few no-lume dials from that era that still had t swiss t on them. I had a no lume Wideboy Datejust.
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