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SubKing · 14 March 2008, 01:45 AM

Hey I noticed the mov inside my panerai is a bit noisy compared to my other watches and some times i can feel the rotor spinning inside. is this normal for panerai watches? Also when i wind the watch my the crown it does not feel as smooth as my rolex lets say? it feels like a cheap watch would when you wind it kinda (not saying the panerai is cheap!!)

I know these are noob questions but put my mind to rest!!

Also in my 279 in the band they use push pins instead of set screws!! why o why!?!? for the money they should not be using push pins in the bracelet... it should always be set screws... what do you guys think of all this? any answers to all my questions?

Launch Mini · 14 March 2008, 02:35 AM

The "rotor wobble" is perfectly normal. A trait of that movement, nothing wrong at all.
On the winding, yeah, it is more "clicky" that other movements, but normal again.
Push pins on the bracelet, are you talking the new quick release system, or simply spring bars?
EIther should have screws or a single pusher to release the pin.

seantk · 14 March 2008, 02:37 AM

Sorry I cannot answer. I am interested in Panerai, but I do not own one yet.

I do know that the Panerai straps are supposed to be very easy to change. Probably need for D-MAN, Launch Mini or other Panerai pros to chime in.

Launch Mini answered at the same time I was writing this

Sean

SubKing · 14 March 2008, 06:08 AM

no spring bars as panerai does not use them on any of the new J series.. The push pins at the begining of the bracelet, where there are supposed to be set screw heads they are just the cheapy push pins that take a normal push pin gun to remove.. set screws are really nice as to push pins are just in there by presure, push pins are a very cheap way to hold links together on bracelets... most high end watch companys use set screws which is why i'm surprised for the money panerai uses push pins.

dman · 14 March 2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

no spring bars as panerai does not use them on any of the new J series.. The push pins at the begining of the bracelet, where there are supposed to be set screw heads they are just the cheapy push pins that take a normal push pin gun to remove.. set screws are really nice as to push pins are just in there by presure, push pins are a very cheap way to hold links together on bracelets... most high end watch companys use set screws which is why i'm surprised for the money panerai uses push pins.

Must be the new style bracelets that use these friction pins, I know my old 221 and my old new to me 106 uses screws to remove links. Now, at the case it should have the new push button release system which is very proven by IWC and other companies. Personally I like the screws, but there have been many stories of double threading these screws and ruining the case. So there are arguments for both of them.

I did not know they went away from screws in the bracelets though, that is disappointing, but then again I am partial to older models.

SubKing · 14 March 2008, 11:05 AM

well, I guess I cannot complain too much Dman as the push pins in mine are made of Ti so I would hope they will be strong and hold up.. but i'm with you, older and the more new models do have their trade off's.. my only worry is a push or pressure pin is more likely to start to slide out after time as a set screw will not if LockTite is placed on the threads prior to screwing into the links..

dman · 14 March 2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

well, I guess I cannot complain too much Dman as the push pins in mine are made of Ti so I would hope they will be strong and hold up.. but i'm with you, older and the more new models do have their trade off's.. my only worry is a push or pressure pin is more likely to start to slide out after time as a set screw will not if LockTite is placed on the threads prior to screwing into the links..

I agree it is more likely, though many companies like Omega have no real history of problems. All being equal, give me screws.

SubKing · 14 March 2008, 11:10 AM

Dman check out the pictures i posted and you will see what these pins look like.. Also, with all of your panerai's you own, are most of yours noisy as well when wearing them? can you hear the and feel the rotor spinning? also does the crown feel a bit stiff when manually winding it compared to winding a rolex?

dman · 14 March 2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SubKing

Dman check out the pictures i posted and you will see what these pins look like.. Also, with all of your panerai's you own, are most of yours noisy as well when wearing them? can you hear the and feel the rotor spinning? also does the crown feel a bit stiff when manually winding it compared to winding a rolex?

The auto's are always going to be a bit "clickier" than the Rolex, that is part of the tried and true workhorse Val 7750. The wobble is also very noticeable in the PAM auto movements, you actually get used to and look for it. Not a big deal at all and common in any watches that use this caliber.

I love the 'baccy dial too bro, true hearken back to the vintage days. Wear that new baby with pride and PASSION. The beauty of the bracelet models is that you have both options with it and the strap.

SubKing · 14 March 2008, 12:07 PM

Thanks!
I cannot wait to get a bunch of straps, there are soo many different straps out there...
The only thing that does kill me about this watch is the Ti shows any little scratch.. it does not nick or dent like steel but it sure does scratch up easy..

swisswatchguy · 15 November 2013, 02:25 AM

My Pam51 has a noisy movement on spinning the rotor. I am waiting for my new black leather band to arrive UPS so I can put it on. I got a watch repair toolkit from Amazon that is pretty comprehensive. Would I use it on my 18K GMT II? Probably not. Enjoy your new Panerai!

Mosco · 15 November 2013, 02:38 AM

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My Pam51 has a noisy movement on spinning the rotor. I am waiting for my new black leather band to arrive UPS so I can put it on. I got a watch repair toolkit from Amazon that is pretty comprehensive. Would I use it on my 18K GMT II? Probably not. Enjoy your new Panerai!

It was 'new' 5-and-a-half years ago when the thread was originally made

subtona · 15 November 2013, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

It was 'new' 5-and-a-half years ago when the thread was originally made

Mystro · 15 November 2013, 06:00 AM

That is a prompt timed response i would expect from the government.

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Originally Posted by Mosco

It was 'new' 5-and-a-half years ago when the thread was originally made

samsmart · 19 November 2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystro

That is a prompt timed response i would expect from the government.

Andad · 19 November 2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosco

It was 'new' 5-and-a-half years ago when the thread was originally made

B. Doggy · 20 November 2013, 01:56 AM

Old SKOOl!!

lapince · 26 November 2013, 10:39 PM

My 233 is quiet, my 82 is loud, and 28 in the middle but I don't feel any rotor spinning, anyways nothing abnormal in this IMO...

14 March 2008, 01:45 AM	#1
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	panerai noisy?? and pins? Hey I noticed the mov inside my panerai is a bit noisy compared to my other watches and some times i can feel the rotor spinning inside. is this normal for panerai watches? Also when i wind the watch my the crown it does not feel as smooth as my rolex lets say? it feels like a cheap watch would when you wind it kinda (not saying the panerai is cheap!!) I know these are noob questions but put my mind to rest!! Also in my 279 in the band they use push pins instead of set screws!! why o why!?!? for the money they should not be using push pins in the bracelet... it should always be set screws... what do you guys think of all this? any answers to all my questions?

14 March 2008, 02:35 AM	#2
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,241	The "rotor wobble" is perfectly normal. A trait of that movement, nothing wrong at all. On the winding, yeah, it is more "clicky" that other movements, but normal again. Push pins on the bracelet, are you talking the new quick release system, or simply spring bars? EIther should have screws or a single pusher to release the pin. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

14 March 2008, 02:37 AM	#3
seantk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Sean Location: West Florida Posts: 2,671	Sorry I cannot answer. I am interested in Panerai, but I do not own one yet. I do know that the Panerai straps are supposed to be very easy to change. Probably need for D-MAN, Launch Mini or other Panerai pros to chime in. Launch Mini answered at the same time I was writing this Sean __________________ "Life is frittered away with detail... simplify, simplify!" Henry D. Thoreau

15 November 2013, 02:25 AM	#11
swisswatchguy Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: California Watch: Rolex 18K GMT II Posts: 15	Noisy movement My Pam51 has a noisy movement on spinning the rotor. I am waiting for my new black leather band to arrive UPS so I can put it on. I got a watch repair toolkit from Amazon that is pretty comprehensive. Would I use it on my 18K GMT II? Probably not. Enjoy your new Panerai!

20 November 2013, 01:56 AM	#17
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Old SKOOl!! __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

14 March 2008, 06:08 AM	#4
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	no spring bars as panerai does not use them on any of the new J series.. The push pins at the begining of the bracelet, where there are supposed to be set screw heads they are just the cheapy push pins that take a normal push pin gun to remove.. set screws are really nice as to push pins are just in there by presure, push pins are a very cheap way to hold links together on bracelets... most high end watch companys use set screws which is why i'm surprised for the money panerai uses push pins.

14 March 2008, 11:05 AM	#6
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	well, I guess I cannot complain too much Dman as the push pins in mine are made of Ti so I would hope they will be strong and hold up.. but i'm with you, older and the more new models do have their trade off's.. my only worry is a push or pressure pin is more likely to start to slide out after time as a set screw will not if LockTite is placed on the threads prior to screwing into the links..

14 March 2008, 11:10 AM	#8
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	Dman check out the pictures i posted and you will see what these pins look like.. Also, with all of your panerai's you own, are most of yours noisy as well when wearing them? can you hear the and feel the rotor spinning? also does the crown feel a bit stiff when manually winding it compared to winding a rolex?

14 March 2008, 12:07 PM	#10
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	Thanks! I cannot wait to get a bunch of straps, there are soo many different straps out there... The only thing that does kill me about this watch is the Ti shows any little scratch.. it does not nick or dent like steel but it sure does scratch up easy..

26 November 2013, 10:39 PM	#18
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	My 233 is quiet, my 82 is loud, and 28 in the middle but I don't feel any rotor spinning, anyways nothing abnormal in this IMO...

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