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Old 16 February 2023, 01:36 AM   #1
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Baseball Rule Changes...

I don't follow baseball but these new rule changes are interesting.....

https://theathletic.com/4194101/2023...a98d9ddd0088d2


https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...ahead-of-mets/
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Old 16 February 2023, 01:58 AM   #2
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I will try to post a thoughtful response to this ASAP with some real world commentary
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Old 16 February 2023, 02:31 AM   #3
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Anything that speeds up the pitchers and restricts the number of throws to first is fine by me. I can barely sit through a baseball game as it is. I'd prefer if they could get them down to 2 - 2 1/2 hours on average.

I wanted them to keep the shift though. It seemed like a legitimate defensive strategy. It worked so well they decided to ban it. Also (see first paragraph) I like that the shift sped up the games.
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Old 16 February 2023, 03:04 AM   #4
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Anything that speeds up the pitchers and restricts the number of throws to first is fine by me. I can barely sit through a baseball game as it is. I'd prefer if they could get them down to 2 - 2 1/2 hours on average.

I wanted them to keep the shift though. It seemed like a legitimate defensive strategy. It worked so well they decided to ban it. Also (see first paragraph) I like that the shift sped up the games.
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Old 16 February 2023, 03:16 AM   #5
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Baseball was my favorite sport growing up, and I still play in competitive leagues today (not softball)!

That being said, it is the most boring to watch of the major sports - including hockey and soccer. 9 inning games can sometimes go over 3 hours, and the season is incredibly long.

Will these address the issues? Maybe...but at the same time, seeing a 20 inning game that goes into the next day is kind of cool too.
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Old 16 February 2023, 03:19 AM   #6
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I am not a baseball fan but generally think these are good for the game.
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Old 16 February 2023, 03:35 AM   #7
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It may change it from a pastime to an actual sport.

Seriously though, I'm not sure about the change in defensive outfield strategies but I'm all in favor of speeding up the nonsense of the pitcher/ batter time wastage.

You'd think these guys were getting paid by the hour.
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Old 16 February 2023, 03:44 AM   #8
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Old 16 February 2023, 03:57 AM   #9
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The only sport filled with more mindlessly boring moments than baseball is cross country skiing. If MLB can eliminate the ridiculous faffing about between pitchers and hitters the game has a chance of being more exciting than watching paint dry. It is unwatchable without the changes.
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Old 16 February 2023, 04:00 AM   #10
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Baseball needs to do something about all of the ridiculous "unwritten rules"
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Old 16 February 2023, 04:10 AM   #11
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Baseball needs to do something about all of the ridiculous "unwritten rules"
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Old 16 February 2023, 06:59 AM   #12
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I’d prefer for the game to be kept as it is. What’s the rush?
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Old 16 February 2023, 07:18 AM   #13
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If they want to speed up the game, then:

3 total pitches per batter
1:2 = out, 2:1 = walk
5 innings
Ties go to 7th, then half game credit.

Also, 11 players on field = more jobs in MLB.


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Old 16 February 2023, 07:22 AM   #14
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If they want to speed up the game, then:

3 total pitches per batter
1:2 = out, 2:1 = walk
5 innings
Ties go to 7th, then half game credit.

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Worst idea I have ever heard.
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Old 16 February 2023, 07:36 AM   #15
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Not a big fan of that "ghost" runner in extra innings.

I like the new system for speeding up pitchers. I get that the guys in October want to make sure they put themselves in prime position (physically and mentally) to deliver the best possible pitch every single time, but there's no reason for someone in the sixth inning of a Pirates/Mets mid-May blowout to approach the next batter as if his HOF case depends on it.

Not sure how the bigger bases will work out. It should result in more steals (or at least more attempts,) but it also seems like one of those things where you find out a year later that it had no impact at all.

"Unwritten" rules are dumb and childish, but since Yadier "overrated" Molina is retiring, we should hear a little less about them going forward, so that's good
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Old 16 February 2023, 07:55 AM   #16
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I don’t really care for the rule changes except banning the shift. If MLB wants to improve its viewership, perhaps reconsidering how it is simply viewed would be better? Make MLBTV cheaper, don’t screw subscribers out of the postseason, no regional blackouts, and be more conscious about scheduling conflicts with other big sporting events. Leave the game itself alone, just as non-fans can too.
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Old 16 February 2023, 07:55 AM   #17
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Anyone who hits a home run wears a derby the rest of the game. Call it the "Home Run Derby Rule."

Runners caught in a rundown will be called safe if they can make it into their own dugout before getting tagged.

All players will wear microphones so they can be interviewed at any time during any game.

New bases that look like pizza boxes will be filled with refreshments that get better with first base having water, second base having pizza, and third base having beer. Runners get 30 seconds to stop on a base and indulge when homered in.

After the fifteenth inning, a runner will be placed on third rather than second base, and pitchers will have to lob every pitch to the batter.

All players will wear mocap patches and sensory uniforms and equipment to allow for computer re-creation to facilitate more accurate instant replay. The results will be available within minutes and sent to New York and Toronto for review. Fans in attendance will sing songs following lyrics on the Jumbotron, while those watching at home will be treated to infomercials while awaiting the decision. Mocap moments will be licensed and integrated into MLB Video games.

The Hall of Fame will open a new wing called "Hall of Fame on Steroids" to celebrate the drug-facilitated accomplishments of players like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. At the same time, a Pete Rose Casino will open to the public and to players wearing microphones on the field to bet on the game. Side bets like "If it comes to me, I bet I'll drop it," will be allowed. Statues of Steve Howe, Doc Gooden and Darryl Strawberry will double as Coke machines for thirsty visitors.
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Old 16 February 2023, 08:02 AM   #18
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I don’t really care for the rule changes except banning the shift. If MLB wants to improve its viewership, perhaps reconsidering how it is simply viewed would be better? Make MLBTV cheaper, don’t screw subscribers out of the postseason, no regional blackouts, and be more conscious about scheduling conflicts with other big sporting events. Leave the game itself alone, just as non-fans can too.
I like this take.
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Old 16 February 2023, 08:03 AM   #19
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Anyone who hits a home run wears a derby the rest of the game. Call it the "Home Run Derby Rule."

Runners caught in a rundown will be called safe if they can make it into their own dugout before getting tagged.

All players will wear microphones so they can be interviewed at any time during any game.

New bases that look like pizza boxes will be filled with refreshments that get better with first base having water, second base having pizza, and third base having beer. Runners get 30 seconds to stop on a base and indulge when homered in.

After the fifteenth inning, a runner will be placed on third rather than second base, and pitchers will have to lob every pitch to the batter.

All players will wear mocap patches and sensory uniforms and equipment to allow for computer re-creation to facilitate more accurate instant replay. The results will be available within minutes and sent to New York and Toronto for review. Fans in attendance will sing songs following lyrics on the Jumbotron, while those watching at home will be treated to infomercials while awaiting the decision. Mocap moments will be licensed and integrated into MLB Video games.

The Hall of Fame will open a new wing called "Hall of Fame on Steroids" to celebrate the drug-facilitated accomplishments of players like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. At the same time, a Pete Rose Casino will open to the public and to players wearing microphones on the field to bet on the game. Side bets like "If it comes to me, I bet I'll drop it," will be allowed. Statues of Steve Howe, Doc Gooden and Darryl Strawberry will double as Coke machines for thirsty visitors.
Someone call Manfred immediately! Love it
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As to the shift ~ I like half the rule, the half calling for two infielders on each side of second base. Don't like the part mandating the fielders be in the dirt.

Do like the larger bag. Every time two players get their feet tangled at first, I've wondered why it wasn't already bigger.
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I like this take.
It’s like Manfred doesn’t love baseball or the existing fans who heartily boo him at public appearances. Pandering this way to the non-converted seems irrational. I can’t imagine people who found it slow before suddenly staying the course because new games are down a bit to 120–150 mins. For them, maybe MLBTV could index pitches somehow, so you just click through to the next pitch. As a tired parent staying up too late to watch baseball, I would watch like that too if it were easy enough.

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Anyone who hits a home run wears a derby the rest of the game. Call it the "Home Run Derby Rule." …

Runners caught in a rundown will be called safe if they can make it into their own dugout before getting tagged… Statues of Steve Howe, Doc Gooden and Darryl Strawberry will double as Coke machines for thirsty visitors.
So good! Fantastic post.
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Worst idea I have ever heard.

You’ll hear way worster if you read the actual new rules


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i think their test in the minors showed that a pitch clock dramatically reduced game time while not actually impacting pitcher or batter performance. it's a well needed change because 4 hours games every day can get a bit ridiculous and it's not always on the pitcher. usually the batters pace around and play with their gloves in between every pitch which does get annoying
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All good moves.

I look forward to the season.
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Old 16 February 2023, 09:35 AM   #25
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The real problem is the amount of strikeouts per game. Makes for a boring game. The new rules are ok but it won’t fix that problem.
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The real problem is the amount of strikeouts per game. Makes for a boring game. The new rules are ok but it won’t fix that problem.
yeah, i blame analytics. while it made basketball much more entertaining with the need for talented shooters at every position, it made baseball more boring because everyone swings for home runs. i wonder if there's a way to fix it
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Baseball Rule Changes...

I’m a big baseball fan. I played at all levels from little league through high school. I had season tickets for the Phillies when I lived up in PA.

I’m looking forward to these new rules. Best new rule of all is no more infield shifts. There must be 2 fielders on the right side and 2 on the left side. So if a left handed batter is up, no more shifting the entire infield to the right. When teams started doing that about 25 years ago, I think it ruined the game.

Also, I was a pitcher for my high school team. I remember getting annoyed when batters weren’t in the box and ready to hit. I love the new pitch clock rule.


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All good moves.

I look forward to the season.
Well Cru, you just quickly and quietly killed my assumption the new rules might only appeal to nu-fans. Also looking forward to the season.
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yeah, i blame analytics. while it made basketball much more entertaining with the need for talented shooters at every position, it made baseball more boring because everyone swings for home runs. i wonder if there's a way to fix it
In theory - fingers crossed here - banning the shift will at least partially fix this. The shift has been around since Ted Williams' day, but managers only started heavily using it in the last several years. The result has been that when a ball is put in play, it's become far more likely to be an out than before. As a result, hitting coaches have encouraged batters to chase the infamous "three true outcomes" (home runs, walks, and strikeouts) since those don't rely on any factors except the pitcher and hitter, and thus hitters are less strategized upon. With the loss of the shift, hopefully more batters will try for sharp line drives or looping fly balls that drop in the shallow part of the outfield. And since this approach will (hopefully) result in hits that aren't home runs, those resulting men on base will hopefully take advantage of the larger bases (and therefore shorter distances between them) to create some fun action on the field.

It's a lot to ask of a few minor changes, but I remain cautiously optimistic.
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Old 16 February 2023, 01:09 PM   #30
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I’d prefer for the game to be kept as it is. What’s the rush?
I agree. If you enjoy it, watch it. If not, then don’t. I hate watching grown ass men writhing around on the soccer field like they’re hurt. I don’t demand they change it, I just choose not to watch it.
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