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Old 20 November 2019, 07:31 AM   #1
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2006 Rolex Sub Serti (SWISS - T<25 Dial)

Hi forum members.

I have several rolex watches and have recently added a late Rolex 16613 Serti Dial with silver diamond sapphire dial. The watch has full B&P and the serial numbers check out.

However on closer inspection the dial has the 6 o'clock designation

SWISS - T<25.

My research seems to indicate that this designation was stopped several years before the date of my watch....1989 - 1997.

can anyone shed any light on this. The only thing I can come up with is that the watch was a NOS when sold in 2006.

Is it an anomoly, rarity or could it be a Frankenmonster??

Many thanks in advance
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Old 20 November 2019, 08:03 AM   #2
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What are the first three of the serial?
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Old 20 November 2019, 08:10 AM   #3
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Your text should read SWISS MADE or SWISS (service dial) from the era; Ime.. Sounds like yours has a dial swap.
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Old 20 November 2019, 08:18 AM   #4
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Hi forum members.



I have several rolex watches and have recently added a late Rolex 16613 Serti Dial with silver diamond sapphire dial. The watch has full B&P and the serial numbers check out.



However on closer inspection the dial has the 6 o'clock designation



SWISS - T<25.



My research seems to indicate that this designation was stopped several years before the date of my watch....1989 - 1997.



can anyone shed any light on this. The only thing I can come up with is that the watch was a NOS when sold in 2006.



Is it an anomoly, rarity or could it be a Frankenmonster??



Many thanks in advance


Pictures and serial number letter would help, probably a NOS as you said


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Old 20 November 2019, 08:21 AM   #5
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But swap for an older dial?
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Old 20 November 2019, 08:29 AM   #6
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Will need to check tomorrow....box in safe
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Old 20 November 2019, 08:56 PM   #7
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Z198.

I suspect it has had a dial swap and as such I have returned the watch for a full refund. I think it was probably a bluesy two tone originally.
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Old 20 November 2019, 10:00 PM   #8
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Z198.

I suspect it has had a dial swap and as such I have returned the watch for a full refund. I think it was probably a bluesy two tone originally.
Z should definitely have “Swiss made” // good move returning
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Old 21 November 2019, 12:25 AM   #9
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Hi forum members.

I have several rolex watches and have recently added a late Rolex 16613 Serti Dial with silver diamond sapphire dial. The watch has full B&P and the serial numbers check out.

However on closer inspection the dial has the 6 o'clock designation

SWISS - T<25.

My research seems to indicate that this designation was stopped several years before the date of my watch....1989 - 1997.

can anyone shed any light on this. The only thing I can come up with is that the watch was a NOS when sold in 2006.

Is it an anomoly, rarity or could it be a Frankenmonster??

Many thanks in advance
As far as I know the "Swiss - T<25" on the dial (indicating tritium lume) disappeared around 1998, when Rolex changed from tritium to some other, better lume. My 1996 14060 Sub has the "Swiss - T<25" on the dial. I'm no expert, but I don't think that any 2006 Rolex would have "Swiss - T<25" on the original dial. So it may have been swapped...!?
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Old 21 November 2019, 12:30 AM   #10
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It should also have solid end links from 2006.
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Old 21 November 2019, 01:48 AM   #11
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Also a laser etched crown (LEC) on crystal at 6 oclock.

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Old 21 November 2019, 04:45 AM   #12
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Old 21 November 2019, 08:00 AM   #13
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The papers would also state Slate Serti on them if it originated that way
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Old 21 November 2019, 09:34 AM   #14
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Nothing wrong with it having had a dial swap. You can pick up a black or blue dial quite easily and you'll have both, you can also do black or blue bezels, it's a versatile watch that one. If it's in nice condition, keep it.
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Old 21 November 2019, 09:01 PM   #15
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no sertis subs had solid gold links still folded thick gold they did have metal sleeve for the pins new serti all diamonds now no other gems
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Not unusual to have a Serti dial swapped into a watch to get the look, or any other dial appropriate for the model.

Not sure why you would send it back if a Serti is what you wanted.
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Old 22 November 2019, 08:06 AM   #17
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Z198.

I suspect it has had a dial swap and as such I have returned the watch for a full refund. I think it was probably a bluesy two tone originally.


I certainly understand that. It’s best to seek one that was original, and has the original paperwork to back it up. You would never have been able to get RSC service with that swapped dial on Z s/n.


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