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16 April 2021, 08:08 AM | #1 |
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Rolex Stelline Star dials
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I'm quite new with Rolex brand, but getting to like more and more it's history and craftsmanship. Now I encountered a strange Rolex and wanted to know if some could explain a bit the history behind it. I read a few things about "Stelline" Rolex or Rolex Star Dial but maybe some have even more info about them. On top of that I'm very curious to know why some Rolex watches have been cosigned and if someone knows how many were made +-. I'm asking as I have a new and first Rolex but a specialist told me it was a fake and star dials are mostly fake/immitations. So a bit of history about them would be really nice for the connaisseurs and their opinion about this particular watch (value isn't importanted, just it's history). Thanks a lot !!!! |
17 April 2021, 12:37 PM | #2 |
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One of the best resources for the star dials is this one:
https://le-monde-edmond.com/rolex-a-...at-star-dials/ Note that none of the genuine dials have a configuration similar to the one posted, as all of them have markers at 12, 3, 6 and 9 with stars at 1,2 and 4,5, etc. Another difference is that replica dials often have a point of the star pointing at a minute marker whereas the genuine ones usually have a vertical point on each star aligned to point upwards (within about half a degree or two). It's difficult to explain, but this image shows the alignment of each star so they have the same angular orientation: |
20 April 2021, 04:52 AM | #3 |
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Hi CTech,
Well didn't see those details, so great. Do you think my watch is a fake thus? The history I received: watch from 1957 by Dennison case maker in UK. This is why this isn't the Oyster Rolex case, but a different one in 9k yellow gold. A few other photos too. Tell me your opinion, very curious |
20 April 2021, 08:00 AM | #4 |
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Here are some more Stelline examples, two showing the markers as CTech described
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20 April 2021, 08:20 AM | #5 |
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A 9 ct case made by Dennison is normal for a lot of 1950s and early 1960s Rolex Precision watches sold in the UK, but somebody would need to see the case, case back, hallmarks and movement to determine if this is all original or if it has been assembled for sale out of parts.
The dial is the most puzzling piece as it doesn't conform to others that are known to be genuine Rolex star dials. Unless you can find several others exactly like this together with provenance from good sources the best thing is to take the advice of the specialist you mentioned and treat is as a replica/aftermarket/enhanced dial. Alternatively, if this watch came from Amsterdam Watch Company, ask them if they took the dial off the watch and examined it, and if so, did they think it was genuine and original to the watch. If so, where are the examples they used of exactly the same design. Notice also the wording of the sales description; did they say it was all original or genuine or was it all very vague? Having a replacement dial on a watch doesn't make the whole watch fake, but it does make you wonder if it has been assembled out of a set of parts for maximum profit, and if so, what else has been done that might not be quite right. If you can, post more pictures of the inside of the case back (showing the serial number, model number, ALD marks (Dennison's mark) and the hallmarks) and the movement just in case somebody might be able to verify it further. As an example, here is a photo of the inside of a typical 9 ct Dennison case back: |
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Beautiful dials. My Stelline favourite is a 6062 reference. The dial of this triple calendar moonphase watch has the stars like CTech described. Together with the other complications this Stelline dial has a unique iconic design. As far as I know there are two variants: a white (probably more common) and a black dial.
The Stelline dials aren't exclusive for the reference 6062. There are also kind of stick hour markers that are more triangular or diamonds like on the famous Bao Dai watch that belonged to the last Emperor of Vietnam. 6062 exist in SS, YG and RG as far as I know. The Stelline effect is different with each of the metals probably yet always fascinating. Unfortunately the 6062 is off limits for most of the WIS (me included). Although not super rare a good condition Stelline 6062 can be $500'000 or more... |
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