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Old 21 April 2021, 07:55 PM   #1
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Icon20 Tridor bracelet variations

Hi all, new member here, and this is my first post...go easy on me if this is a stupid question...

I recently added a DD Tridor to my collection, and during my research I realised that the bracelet on my watch is somewhat different to most others. Specifically in the order of the types of gold in the centre links. Most pictures show watches with (starting on the outside): red gold, yellow gold, white gold. Mine is yellow gold, red gold, white gold. I managed to find one picture where it was like mine. I was wondering if anyone knew how many of each were made, or if it was changed after a certain date, etc...
Very curious to see this brilliant hive mind at work! Thank you, and stay safe!
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Old 21 April 2021, 09:26 PM   #2
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I've never seen that before, but I like yours better than the one on the right which just looks like TT at a glance. The lefthand pic shows the contrast much better.
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Old 21 April 2021, 09:56 PM   #3
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I've never seen that before, but I like yours better than the one on the right which just looks like TT at a glance. The lefthand pic shows the contrast much better.
The red gold does pop more on the inside. The dial on mine is fairly plain, so the bracelet is also more prominent.
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Old 22 April 2021, 06:06 AM   #4
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What is the model number of your watch and what is the bracelet number

I have a 18039 watch and 8285 bracelet all original

My bracelet is WG-RG-YG-WG-YG-RG-WG

I thought there were only two bracelets for the Tridor, one like mine and one with lots os diamonds added..

There are several posts and threads on this subject on the forum, they may take a bit of finding.
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Old 22 April 2021, 06:19 AM   #5
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Just remembered, I had to buy an additional link from Rolex
There was no choice of link.
New link was identical to the bracelet links.
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Old 22 April 2021, 06:26 AM   #6
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The red gold does pop more on the inside. The dial on mine is fairly plain, so the bracelet is also more prominent.
Those are the same bracelets.

The Red gold is outside, the Yellow gold on the left is just Darker than the Yellow on the right.

All gold mixtures have other metals. Yellow Gold can tarnish with the Silver/Copper portion oxidizing and causing darkening.

Gold stored in low oxygen environments like a safe for years, can show darkening or tarnishing over time.... Your Bracelet may have been stored for a long time.

But BOTH of the bracelets shown above are in the same gold order. RG, YG, WG, YG, RG.

Rose Gold usually is 75% Gold, 22.5% copper, 2.5% silver.
White Gold usually is 75% Gold, 25% Palladium or Platinum (OR 10% Copper, 8% Nickel 4.5% Zinc, 2% Silver)
Yellow Gold is usually 75% Gold, 12.5% Copper, 12.5% SILVER.

Now, what do you know about silver? It tarnishes black (or Darkens).

Which of the above mixtures of 18k has the highest concentration of Silver? (YG) so where do you expect to see the most Tarnishing (darkening) of the metal? YG, RG or WG?? (Hint it's YG)

What component in your bracelet has darkened? (Hint it's the same answer)
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Old 22 April 2021, 10:29 AM   #7
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There you have it folks
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Old 22 April 2021, 09:30 PM   #8
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Those are the same bracelets.

The Red gold is outside, the Yellow gold on the left is just Darker than the Yellow on the right.

All gold mixtures have other metals. Yellow Gold can tarnish with the Silver/Copper portion oxidizing and causing darkening.

Gold stored in low oxygen environments like a safe for years, can show darkening or tarnishing over time.... Your Bracelet may have been stored for a long time.

But BOTH of the bracelets shown above are in the same gold order. RG, YG, WG, YG, RG.

Rose Gold usually is 75% Gold, 22.5% copper, 2.5% silver.
White Gold usually is 75% Gold, 25% Palladium or Platinum (OR 10% Copper, 8% Nickel 4.5% Zinc, 2% Silver)
Yellow Gold is usually 75% Gold, 12.5% Copper, 12.5% SILVER.

Now, what do you know about silver? It tarnishes black (or Darkens).

Which of the above mixtures of 18k has the highest concentration of Silver? (YG) so where do you expect to see the most Tarnishing (darkening) of the metal? YG, RG or WG?? (Hint it's YG)

What component in your bracelet has darkened? (Hint it's the same answer)
Agree. If you look carefully they're exactly the same, but with different levels of tarnishing.
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Old 23 April 2021, 03:16 AM   #9
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Old 24 April 2021, 06:12 AM   #10
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Those are the same bracelets.

The Red gold is outside, the Yellow gold on the left is just Darker than the Yellow on the right.

All gold mixtures have other metals. Yellow Gold can tarnish with the Silver/Copper portion oxidizing and causing darkening.

Gold stored in low oxygen environments like a safe for years, can show darkening or tarnishing over time.... Your Bracelet may have been stored for a long time.

But BOTH of the bracelets shown above are in the same gold order. RG, YG, WG, YG, RG.

Rose Gold usually is 75% Gold, 22.5% copper, 2.5% silver.
White Gold usually is 75% Gold, 25% Palladium or Platinum (OR 10% Copper, 8% Nickel 4.5% Zinc, 2% Silver)
Yellow Gold is usually 75% Gold, 12.5% Copper, 12.5% SILVER.

Now, what do you know about silver? It tarnishes black (or Darkens).

Which of the above mixtures of 18k has the highest concentration of Silver? (YG) so where do you expect to see the most Tarnishing (darkening) of the metal? YG, RG or WG?? (Hint it's YG)

What component in your bracelet has darkened? (Hint it's the same answer)
Well I'll be damned! There we have it, the perfect explanation. Thank you very much. The watch has indeed been stored for all its life, and I haven't wanted to polish/clean it.
Much appreciated!
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Old 24 April 2021, 06:14 AM   #11
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What is the model number of your watch and what is the bracelet number

I have a 18039 watch and 8285 bracelet all original

My bracelet is WG-RG-YG-WG-YG-RG-WG

I thought there were only two bracelets for the Tridor, one like mine and one with lots os diamonds added..

There are several posts and threads on this subject on the forum, they may take a bit of finding.
SN13 has cleared it up, and I was mistaken. There aren't two kinds, just different levels of tarnishing.
Is that your watch in the picture? I love that dial.
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Old 24 April 2021, 06:52 AM   #12
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SN13 has cleared it up, and I was mistaken. There aren't two kinds, just different levels of tarnishing.
Is that your watch in the picture? I love that dial.
Yes it’s a model I’ve always wanted . It is a single quickset 1987 with a tapestry dial. I bought it a couple of years ago. I’ve since bought a midsize Tridor for my wife.

When we visit an AD wearing them there aren’t many staff have ever seen one let alone two. We cause quite a fuss sometimes.
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Old 24 April 2021, 07:21 PM   #13
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Yes it’s a model I’ve always wanted . It is a single quickset 1987 with a tapestry dial. I bought it a couple of years ago. I’ve since bought a midsize Tridor for my wife.

When we visit an AD wearing them there aren’t many staff have ever seen one let alone two. We cause quite a fuss sometimes.
It's beautiful. Mine has a Sahara dial, which is also nice, but I may try and find a tapestry dial, and copy yours :)
I've read that it was also possible to order them with a white gold bezel, which also sounds intriguing, but I haven't come across pictures.
Thanks for sharing
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Old 28 April 2021, 09:59 AM   #14
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What is the model number of your watch and what is the bracelet number

I have a 18039 watch and 8285 bracelet all original

My bracelet is WG-RG-YG-WG-YG-RG-WG

I thought there were only two bracelets for the Tridor, one like mine and one with lots os diamonds added..

There are several posts and threads on this subject on the forum, they may take a bit of finding.
Bit late to the party but that's one of the best watches I've seen with a formal shirt irrespective of brand. The bracelet and dial combo works so well
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Old 29 April 2021, 11:18 PM   #15
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Bit late to the party but that's one of the best watches I've seen with a formal shirt irrespective of brand. The bracelet and dial combo works so well
Thanks for your comment.
It’s my Sunday best model
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Gold stored in low oxygen environments like a safe for years, can show darkening or tarnishing over time.... Your Bracelet may have been stored for a long time.

But BOTH of the bracelets shown above are in the same gold order. RG, YG, WG, YG, RG.

Rose Gold usually is 75% Gold, 22.5% copper, 2.5% silver.
White Gold usually is 75% Gold, 25% Palladium or Platinum (OR 10% Copper, 8% Nickel 4.5% Zinc, 2% Silver)
Yellow Gold is usually 75% Gold, 12.5% Copper, 12.5% SILVER.
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This is a great answer. I'm no metallurgist, but in a low oxygen environment shouldn't oxidation (tarnishing) be less, not more?
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Old 1 May 2021, 10:12 PM   #17
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I've never seen that before, but I like yours better than the one on the right which just looks like TT at a glance. The lefthand pic shows the contrast much better.
The contrast on the Tridor bracelet is my concern. Although I like the design of the "tris d'or" IRL the difference seems to be minimal between RG and YG. At least in older bracelets. I've never seen a rather new one in the flesh. And this TT-look bothers me. Are there bracelets out there with the real Tridor contrast? Or did I look at too many photoshopped Tridors? Still tempted to add a 18039b/18239b, can be unique with a special dial from the variety of the 18000-series...
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Old 7 May 2021, 10:38 PM   #18
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Hopefully better picture of the sial
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The other Tridor in the family
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Hopefully better picture of the sial
Incredible watch and that’s not a common dial on the Tridor. Do you occasionally refinish your bracelet ? Mine has a great deal of Patina .
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The midsize Tridor has just come back from a Rolex service, My day date which I wear over the weekend sometimes gets an occasional wash in the shower.
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The other Tridor in the family
Amazing! That dial and Tridor seems to be pretty unique
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The Tridor is a model I have always admired. I bought both watches over a two year period. Out of interest I had them both valued at my AD. At first he said the midsize was not original he thought the diamond bezel was aftermarket. However he contacted Rolex HQ and they confirmed that both watches were just as they left the factory and totally original.
The day date is a 1987 and the midsize is a 1985.
They are both vintage just like me and the wife.
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The Tridor is a model I have always admired. I bought both watches over a two year period. Out of interest I had them both valued at my AD. At first he said the midsize was not original he thought the diamond bezel was aftermarket. However he contacted Rolex HQ and they confirmed that both watches were just as they left the factory and totally original.
The day date is a 1987 and the midsize is a 1985.
They are both vintage just like me and the wife.
Interesting story. @Being vintage: No disrespect at all. As we all should know: it's all about condition

The Tridor is high on my list. But beautiful dials like yours are hard to find plus equally hard to find a bracelet with adequate contrast between the three golds...
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The WG bezel is awesome.
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