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MichaelFlash · 6 October 2019, 04:09 AM

Very different models I know. Thinking about consolidating and purchasing my 1st PP or ALS. I have always loved the 5205r and 5205g. Which do you prefer, white or rose gold? Also, would you choose it over a 1st generation datograph or the Zeitwerk in Rose gold silver dial?

I know dress watches are out of fashion, however, as an attorney, I wear a suit or blazer during the week so I frequently wear a dress watch.

Also, it seems to be a good time to buy a dress PP or ALS as the used market seems to be dropping...what are your thoughts and thanks in advance for any responses.

A3MED · 6 October 2019, 04:22 AM

I say go for the 1st gen Dato, im planning on getting one myself. You could get yourself a serviced example on a deployant clasp for <$45k

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Fat_ninja · 6 October 2019, 05:06 AM

Dato

AK797 · 6 October 2019, 05:28 AM

I'd go for the Dato 39mm Romans, the ZW is a great concept but seemed a bit brittle and when the sales lady was scrolling rapidly thru all the numbers to set the time it just seemed like a ticking time bomb to me.

ts3 · 6 October 2019, 06:00 AM

Dato among your options, but I would also consider some of the 5170s such as the 5170P or the black dial 5170G-010 w Breguet numbers. I'd likely prefer those over your options as most 5170s look more modern than the Dato IMO and are less unusual and more under the radar than the Zeitwerk while the 5205s just don't do much for me in general.

MichaelFlash · 6 October 2019, 08:09 AM

I know the 5170 is popular and I tried one on today...it just doesn't sing to me for some reason. I tried on the dato again today and loved it. Seems to wear a bit small. If I throw in the 5960 would that change your opinions? I am considering it as well as it seems that it can be dressed up or down...

AK797 · 6 October 2019, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelFlash

I know the 5170 is popular and I tried one on today...it just doesn't sing to me for some reason. I tried on the dato again today and loved it. Seems to wear a bit small. If I throw in the 5960 would that change your opinions? I am considering it as well as it seems that it can be dressed up or down...

Yes a touch small for its thickness at 39mm, would love that dial layout at 41mm myself. How is the resale of the Dato now, assuming very little discount from Lange ADs these days?

MadSpaniard · 6 October 2019, 09:25 AM

What you put on your wrist should reflect who you are, not what others want to see or what they would recognize. I vote 5205R-001, but I’m biased as that’s what I’ve got on my wrist (btw it gets noticed, and although most people don’t know what it is, they immediately get a sense it must be something).

Get what speaks to you. The people that know you will “get it”, and they’ll also understand why you got it.

ts3 · 6 October 2019, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelFlash

I know the 5170 is popular and I tried one on today...it just doesn't sing to me for some reason. I tried on the dato again today and loved it. Seems to wear a bit small. If I throw in the 5960 would that change your opinions? I am considering it as well as it seems that it can be dressed up or down...

I find the subdial on the 5960 very busy but would pick it over the 5205. Have been wondering about the white 5960 at times but am still happy I didn't pull the trigger when prices bottomed out. The 5905 is the only AC / ACC I find very pretty but it is (too) large for myself at 42mm.

Ichiran · 6 October 2019, 11:12 AM

Get the 5205!!!!!

thekman · 6 October 2019, 11:12 AM

Zeitwerk is one of my grails so I would go with that. You can't go wrong with a dato or 5205 though.

MichaelFlash · 6 October 2019, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Yes a touch small for its thickness at 39mm, would love that dial layout at 41mm myself. How is the resale of the Dato now, assuming very little discount from Lange ADs these days?

The Dato up/down seems to be in the mid to high 50's while the original in the
low 40s.

MilesB · 6 October 2019, 09:59 PM

Which dial are you thinking for the 5205? I do like the blue dial 5205G-013. The 5905P is also worth considering.

Of the two Langes, I'd probably go with the original Datograph. It's a classic design. I have a Zeitwerk, while a very cool watch, it's not an everyday watch, both because of its looks and it's not the most comfortable watch to wear.

JR16 · 6 October 2019, 11:38 PM

I love the dial layout of the 5205 for an AC, but somehow on the wrist it just doesn’t feel right to me.

If an AC isn’t a big draw for you, then I’d go dato

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karim786 · 7 October 2019, 12:54 AM

I love the 5205r and it will likely be my first PP

SL BRABUS · 7 October 2019, 04:07 AM

Zeitwerk decimal strike that would be my choice.....

watchucallit · 7 October 2019, 04:15 AM

I would go for the Datograph up/down. .. I own it and love it.. I like having a PR indicator-- probably other than time and date the only really important complication on a mechanical watch. I considered the Zeitwerk several times but as others have told me-- the novelty of that watch does wear off over time. I also generally like steel, white gold or platinum but with the Datograph-- the rose gold just compliments the dial so nicely. I have a small wrist and it is not my most comfortable watch. I had ordered a tang buckle to replace the deployment but in the end -- kept the deployment buckle.

locutus49 · 7 October 2019, 04:16 AM

There is a delicious Lange 1815 that just came up for sale on the Forum. 41K.

MichaelFlash · 7 October 2019, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by locutus49

There is a delicious Lange 1815 that just came up for sale on the Forum. 41K.

That is a stunner! But I need a date...

MichaelFlash · 7 October 2019, 07:50 AM

Thanks to everyone for all the insights. After much soul searching, it is between the original Dato and the 5205g -013 but I am starting to lean towrds the 5205g . I will keep you posted!

Ichiran · 7 October 2019, 10:23 AM

A little enabling won't hurt..
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jag32 · 7 October 2019, 10:34 AM

5205R black dial is among my favorites.

This thread needs photos of the ALS.

Humble michael · 7 October 2019, 10:49 AM

Yep 5205 will do it !

nycpassat · 7 October 2019, 12:19 PM

5205R or G

MichaelFlash · 7 October 2019, 01:35 PM

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A little enabling won't hurt..
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dbfagan · 7 October 2019, 01:51 PM

Datograph. ALS has far surpassed PP in terms of quality in the last few years. I am still a fan of PP but they have lost their way. Bigger cases and louder dials while their movements have not changed. I am a purist who thinks the 3970 and 3940 are the best PP has ever had to offer so...let the beating commence.

Regardless, buy what you love and sod the rest of us.

Kliminator · 7 October 2019, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MilesB

Which dial are you thinking for the 5205? I do like the blue dial 5205G-013. The 5905P is also worth considering.

Of the two Langes, I'd probably go with the original Datograph. It's a classic design. I have a Zeitwerk, while a very cool watch, it's not an everyday watch, both because of its looks and it's not the most comfortable watch to wear.

Isn't the zeitwerk pretty thick? I remember it being pretty chunky when I tried it on at my local AD

GB-man · 7 October 2019, 03:23 PM

Everyone hates when people do this but for my money I’d entertain a Journe Resonance.

shafran · 7 October 2019, 07:06 PM

I loved the look, but found it too thick for the size. It felt top heavy and I ended up trading for a grande lange 1 mp. I have the 5205 and love it. That and my Lange are my two calendar/moonphase watches. I think the 1815 chrono feels more balanced. The dato up down is more balanced too. I have the Journe centigraph, thats an amazing chrono.

AK797 · 7 October 2019, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Everyone hates when people do this but for my money I’d entertain a Journe Resonance.

And I'll throw in the Journe Octa Calendrier, I love this piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQHhFGituDM

6 October 2019, 04:09 AM	#1
MichaelFlash "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Michael Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,372	5205, Datograph or Zeitwerk Very different models I know. Thinking about consolidating and purchasing my 1st PP or ALS. I have always loved the 5205r and 5205g. Which do you prefer, white or rose gold? Also, would you choose it over a 1st generation datograph or the Zeitwerk in Rose gold silver dial? I know dress watches are out of fashion, however, as an attorney, I wear a suit or blazer during the week so I frequently wear a dress watch. Also, it seems to be a good time to buy a dress PP or ALS as the used market seems to be dropping...what are your thoughts and thanks in advance for any responses.

6 October 2019, 11:12 AM	#11
thekman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Boston Watch: 16610LV Posts: 1,050	Zeitwerk is one of my grails so I would go with that. You can't go wrong with a dato or 5205 though. __________________ Rolex \| AP \| Cartier \| VC \| Lange Follow me www.instagram.com/subs.n.scrubs

7 October 2019, 12:54 AM	#15
karim786 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Karim Location: Calgary Posts: 81	I love the 5205r and it will likely be my first PP __________________ 116515LN 116500LN 116710BLNR 126710BLNR 116610LN 228235

7 October 2019, 04:07 AM	#16
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,345	Zeitwerk decimal strike that would be my choice..... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

7 October 2019, 03:23 PM	#28
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,864	Everyone hates when people do this but for my money I’d entertain a Journe Resonance. __________________

6 October 2019, 04:22 AM	#2
A3MED "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Ahmed Location: Abu Dhabi / LA Posts: 294	I say go for the 1st gen Dato, im planning on getting one myself. You could get yourself a serviced example on a deployant clasp for <$45k Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 October 2019, 05:06 AM	#3
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	Dato

6 October 2019, 05:28 AM	#4
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,232	I'd go for the Dato 39mm Romans, the ZW is a great concept but seemed a bit brittle and when the sales lady was scrolling rapidly thru all the numbers to set the time it just seemed like a ticking time bomb to me.

6 October 2019, 06:00 AM	#5
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,236	Dato among your options, but I would also consider some of the 5170s such as the 5170P or the black dial 5170G-010 w Breguet numbers. I'd likely prefer those over your options as most 5170s look more modern than the Dato IMO and are less unusual and more under the radar than the Zeitwerk while the 5205s just don't do much for me in general.

6 October 2019, 08:09 AM	#6
MichaelFlash "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Michael Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,372	I know the 5170 is popular and I tried one on today...it just doesn't sing to me for some reason. I tried on the dato again today and loved it. Seems to wear a bit small. If I throw in the 5960 would that change your opinions? I am considering it as well as it seems that it can be dressed up or down...

6 October 2019, 09:25 AM	#8
MadSpaniard "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Atlanta Posts: 343	What you put on your wrist should reflect who you are, not what others want to see or what they would recognize. I vote 5205R-001, but I’m biased as that’s what I’ve got on my wrist (btw it gets noticed, and although most people don’t know what it is, they immediately get a sense it must be something). Get what speaks to you. The people that know you will “get it”, and they’ll also understand why you got it.

6 October 2019, 11:12 AM	#10
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,624	Get the 5205!!!!!

6 October 2019, 09:59 PM	#13
MilesB "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: UK Posts: 103	Which dial are you thinking for the 5205? I do like the blue dial 5205G-013. The 5905P is also worth considering. Of the two Langes, I'd probably go with the original Datograph. It's a classic design. I have a Zeitwerk, while a very cool watch, it's not an everyday watch, both because of its looks and it's not the most comfortable watch to wear.

6 October 2019, 11:38 PM	#14
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,188	I love the dial layout of the 5205 for an AC, but somehow on the wrist it just doesn’t feel right to me. If an AC isn’t a big draw for you, then I’d go dato Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

7 October 2019, 04:15 AM	#17
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,214	I would go for the Datograph up/down. .. I own it and love it.. I like having a PR indicator-- probably other than time and date the only really important complication on a mechanical watch. I considered the Zeitwerk several times but as others have told me-- the novelty of that watch does wear off over time. I also generally like steel, white gold or platinum but with the Datograph-- the rose gold just compliments the dial so nicely. I have a small wrist and it is not my most comfortable watch. I had ordered a tang buckle to replace the deployment but in the end -- kept the deployment buckle.

7 October 2019, 04:16 AM	#18
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	There is a delicious Lange 1815 that just came up for sale on the Forum. 41K.

7 October 2019, 07:50 AM	#20
MichaelFlash "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Michael Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,372	Thanks to everyone for all the insights. After much soul searching, it is between the original Dato and the 5205g -013 but I am starting to lean towrds the 5205g . I will keep you posted!

7 October 2019, 10:23 AM	#21
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,624	A little enabling won't hurt.. IMG_07102019_082233_(850_x_1000_pixel).jpg

7 October 2019, 10:34 AM	#22
jag32 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: DC Watch: PP/AP/BP/UN Posts: 1,015	5205R black dial is among my favorites. This thread needs photos of the ALS.

7 October 2019, 10:49 AM	#23
Humble michael "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: James Cline Location: san antonio Watch: 5711 white , 5990, Posts: 1,218	Yep 5205 will do it !

7 October 2019, 12:19 PM	#24
nycpassat "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: NYC/NJ Posts: 1,107	5205R or G

7 October 2019, 01:51 PM	#26
dbfagan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: David Location: NOVA Posts: 530	Datograph. ALS has far surpassed PP in terms of quality in the last few years. I am still a fan of PP but they have lost their way. Bigger cases and louder dials while their movements have not changed. I am a purist who thinks the 3970 and 3940 are the best PP has ever had to offer so...let the beating commence. Regardless, buy what you love and sod the rest of us.

7 October 2019, 07:06 PM	#29
shafran "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: woodmere,ny Posts: 557	I had a first gen dato I loved the look, but found it too thick for the size. It felt top heavy and I ended up trading for a grande lange 1 mp. I have the 5205 and love it. That and my Lange are my two calendar/moonphase watches. I think the 1815 chrono feels more balanced. The dato up down is more balanced too. I have the Journe centigraph, thats an amazing chrono.

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