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9 October 2019, 10:55 PM | #61 |
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I see a couple of rings on that video when paused in 1080p HD.
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congrats on the 5711. I hope Patek will swap the bracelet for a new one
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The bracelet is made with a mix of non-removable links which are permanently joined together with welded pins on both sides and some have fixed pins one end and a removable pin with a collar on the other to allow the links to be removed. The fixed links will have 2 circles on the edges and the removable links have 1 circle and a hole for the removable pin. To help reassure the OP and anyone else with a steel 5711 I would like to add that the issue I am having with my steel 5711 is regarding the discoloration that appears. This discolouration is NOT only on the outer edges where the rings are, but it is also clearly seen inside the joints of the bracelet as well. The OP's bracelet looks fine, just enjoy your 5711, it’s a great watch. |
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Making a bracelet. Look at this video starting at 0:55 sec mark:
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10 October 2019, 04:37 AM | #71 |
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Yes, but I’m curious as to his own personal experience with his own Nautilus and why he feels it is like that.
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I also have those rings (different color metal) on some links and circle indents on other links. Oh well, it seems the concensus is that it is normal albeit some lousy QC from Patek. Sent from my SM-J810M using Tapatalk |
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10 October 2019, 06:30 PM | #73 |
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Hmm my old man's 5712 looks like that too, but i guess it doesnt bother him much
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The bracelet doesn't feel sturdy and is pretty delicate. I still like the Nautilus mind you overall. |
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I just collected my wife’s 7118A from AD today and it has the same faint rings on some of the bracelet links.
Similar but slightly fainter rings also exist in my 5712A bought from AD in 2012. There is absolutely no sign of rusting on my 5712A, which I wear regularly (even when swimming in pool). Therefore I would say no worry. Enjoy your Nautilus! Best, Henry Adjustments.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Being an OCD type person, I would say no worries in this issue. Best, Henry |
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Do those faint marks on the link still present in your new 5711 bracelet (after replacing the rusted one by PPSC) ? Thank you. Henry |
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Those links have pins and I suspect the caps to enclose them were not properly finished so they would not show.
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The 5712A above from 2012 did not have pins, so I cannot explain the circles which are clearly visible, other than maybe some device to hold the link while final polishing was done. I would not worry about it.
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Those links in the app picture are not the ones you remove like the ones you are showing here. The higher links, closer to the case, don’t show rings nor should they on a 30k watch.
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Neither of my Nautilus (15'&17') have those marks to the naked eye. I don't own a loop, because I don't want to make a thread like this too.
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14 October 2019, 03:41 PM | #84 |
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It's stuff like this that keeps me from ever buying from gray.
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14 October 2019, 06:58 PM | #85 |
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I don't understand... Even 5711/1A and 5712/1A that still had screws near the clasp would have pins in the links near the case that cannot be removed?!
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Agreed. The circular marks are nothing to do with the pins or screws debate, they are the caused by the finishing process on the metal infill/pin on the non removable links.
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15 October 2019, 01:36 AM | #87 |
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Yes the original and both of the replacement bracelets had the same marks, I can't take pictures as the watch is in Geneva being worked on.
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I think Patek rely on a high precision pressure fit rather than welding at least for the steel Nautilus. All the bracelets I have seen have slight pitting to the circles, which would have been filled if it was welded. It’s only visible with a good loupe but it’s there. The pitting is only microns deep after the bracelet is finished, but it stands out from the brushed finish. It would require removal of a lot of material to remove the pitting from all the links making some links narrower than others or a lot of reject links. Different sized links would look odd as the edge of the bracelet will not be straight. I think Patek resolve this by assembling the links first, then finishing each side as a whole to keep a straight edge. On some links with excessive pitting they cannot remove all the pitting as the bracelets would become too narrow and out of spec. Once the bracelet is assembled and has been finished it would not be possible to remove any heavily pitting links, so it’s passed by QC. |
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I think I'll just be happy and move on. Strange how my other nautilus bracelet is perfect with no rings on any of the links.
"Misery loves company." With so many claiming to have this same issue, I'm beginning to think it's okay... Sent from my SM-J810M using Tapatalk |
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